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amidoinitrightamidoinitright Member Posts: 163 Arc User
edited February 2013 in PvP Gameplay
http://hilbertguide.com/classic.html

So I'm thinking of coming back to STO to play in tournaments using Hilberts awesome idea here. Are there many people actually playing in these tourneys?
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Time played in game. as of 9/12/12 (on my mains) Total 2907 hours.K'zoontite has been on active duty for 34 days, 3 hours, Bot Fly has been on active duty for 55 days, 4 hours, Poppa Capp has been on active duty for 4 days, 12 hours, B'zooka has been on active duty for 12 days, 22 hours,Tater(fed) has been on active duty for 14 days, 10 hours,
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  • devorasxdevorasx Member Posts: 693
    edited January 2013
    Read this ye?
    Co-founder of The Spanish Inquisition TSI - Cause no one expects it!

    PaxOttomana: gawd mirror event is like fighting a tsi premade, they keep comin and comin!
  • snoge00fsnoge00f Member Posts: 1,812 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Speaking of which, I'd love to see a pool of people who you can match up with if you can't find a team in time.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • amidoinitrightamidoinitright Member Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    That's EXACTLY what I'm looking for Pax. :D My question is, will people do this more than just this one tourney. I want to PVP like this daily. Maybe we could setup Fed & Klingon fleets using these rules to have daily matches? anyone interested in that?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Time played in game. as of 9/12/12 (on my mains) Total 2907 hours.K'zoontite has been on active duty for 34 days, 3 hours, Bot Fly has been on active duty for 55 days, 4 hours, Poppa Capp has been on active duty for 4 days, 12 hours, B'zooka has been on active duty for 12 days, 22 hours,Tater(fed) has been on active duty for 14 days, 10 hours,
  • mancommancom Member Posts: 784 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I'm not sure that having special fleets is the best idea. While starbase stuff is not needed for ClassicPVP, one could run different builds (classic, non-classic) on one character. This is why I have proposed the -PVP- tag for classic ships.
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  • amidoinitrightamidoinitright Member Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    mancom wrote: »
    I'm not sure that having special fleets is the best idea. While starbase stuff is not needed for ClassicPVP, one could run different builds (classic, non-classic) on one character. This is why I have proposed the -PVP- tag for classic ships.

    That's a good idea, but I would still like to get a fleet together using these rules that trains/ fights daily doing this. Maybe set up a classic pvp channel or something to arrange private matches. ( If I'm gonna be fighting TSI, I don't want to be running with people I don't know.:D )
    Also, I want to be able to max my abilities for one ship, & not have to pay zen switching.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Time played in game. as of 9/12/12 (on my mains) Total 2907 hours.K'zoontite has been on active duty for 34 days, 3 hours, Bot Fly has been on active duty for 55 days, 4 hours, Poppa Capp has been on active duty for 4 days, 12 hours, B'zooka has been on active duty for 12 days, 22 hours,Tater(fed) has been on active duty for 14 days, 10 hours,
  • dalnar83dalnar83 Member Posts: 2,420 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Why no Nebula :/ Hilbert you disappoint me. First no Nebula in the dominion war event, and now this. I almost feel like sad panda.
    "Cryptic Studio’s Jack Emmert (2010): Microtransactions are the biggest bunch of nonsense. I like paying one fee and not worrying about it – like my cellphone. The world’s biggest MMO isn’t item based, even though the black market item GDP is bigger than Russia … microtransactions make me want to die.”
  • amidoinitrightamidoinitright Member Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    dalnar83 wrote: »
    Why no Nebula :/ Hilbert you disappoint me. First no Nebula in the dominion war event, and now this. I almost feel like sad panda.

    I don't Fed, but wasn't the nebula S2 ? I can't remember.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Time played in game. as of 9/12/12 (on my mains) Total 2907 hours.K'zoontite has been on active duty for 34 days, 3 hours, Bot Fly has been on active duty for 55 days, 4 hours, Poppa Capp has been on active duty for 4 days, 12 hours, B'zooka has been on active duty for 12 days, 22 hours,Tater(fed) has been on active duty for 14 days, 10 hours,
  • mancommancom Member Posts: 784 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    The ruleset is probably closer to S1.2 + Field Generator than to actual S2 (no VA ships for example).
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  • dalnar83dalnar83 Member Posts: 2,420 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Not sure, but Vor'cha retrofit was season 3 launch... :P nebula is actually a month "older". But I know I know....
    "Cryptic Studio’s Jack Emmert (2010): Microtransactions are the biggest bunch of nonsense. I like paying one fee and not worrying about it – like my cellphone. The world’s biggest MMO isn’t item based, even though the black market item GDP is bigger than Russia … microtransactions make me want to die.”
  • mancommancom Member Posts: 784 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    That's true. But KDF ship selection has always been a bit limited and the Boff layout of the Vorcha is a simple copy of the fed cruisers. And the most important part: It is a ship from the long forgotten era when ships actually had drawbacks to balance their advantages - in this case low hull to balance the turnrate.
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  • amidoinitrightamidoinitright Member Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    As I said in the tourney thread, (which i was hijacking,sorry Pax)

    I prefer the idea of setting up fleets to do this, because these new fleets will not be allowed to set up starbases. This will help to maintain the integrity of the matches. No one will leave fleet equipment on these ships, accidentally or on purpose. As most of us tourney vets know, people cheat, either intentionally or accidentally. sometimes whole teams do.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Time played in game. as of 9/12/12 (on my mains) Total 2907 hours.K'zoontite has been on active duty for 34 days, 3 hours, Bot Fly has been on active duty for 55 days, 4 hours, Poppa Capp has been on active duty for 4 days, 12 hours, B'zooka has been on active duty for 12 days, 22 hours,Tater(fed) has been on active duty for 14 days, 10 hours,
  • amidoinitrightamidoinitright Member Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    mancom wrote: »
    That's true. But KDF ship selection has always been a bit limited and the Boff layout of the Vorcha is a simple copy of the fed cruisers. And the most important part: It is a ship from the long forgotten era when ships actually had drawbacks to balance their advantages - in this case low hull to balance the turnrate.

    When I read your magnificent proposal, this is exactly why I thought you did it.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Time played in game. as of 9/12/12 (on my mains) Total 2907 hours.K'zoontite has been on active duty for 34 days, 3 hours, Bot Fly has been on active duty for 55 days, 4 hours, Poppa Capp has been on active duty for 4 days, 12 hours, B'zooka has been on active duty for 12 days, 22 hours,Tater(fed) has been on active duty for 14 days, 10 hours,
  • dalnar83dalnar83 Member Posts: 2,420 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    But but ! My Nebula has weakness ! ME ! :P But ok... :(
    "Cryptic Studio’s Jack Emmert (2010): Microtransactions are the biggest bunch of nonsense. I like paying one fee and not worrying about it – like my cellphone. The world’s biggest MMO isn’t item based, even though the black market item GDP is bigger than Russia … microtransactions make me want to die.”
  • mancommancom Member Posts: 784 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I think the most likely source of accidental unintentional cheating is forgetting to unequip the doffs after playing a regular build in a different ship.
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  • amidoinitrightamidoinitright Member Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    mancom wrote: »
    I think the most likely source of accidental unintentional cheating is forgetting to unequip the doffs after playing a regular build in a different ship.

    agreed. If you have a toon dedicated to this, that won't happen.
    Also, you won't have to respec it.

    As soon as my client update finishes, (hopefully sometime this year :( ) I intend to set up my main Botfly & one of my tacs to do only this. nothing else. That way I won't make any mistakes. Any other Klingon players willing to help me set up a fleet to do this? Any fed captains? I trust the integrity of TSI to keep to the rules, but I've been gone awhile, & don't know about whats going on in PVP anymore, who exploits, who doesn't ect.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Time played in game. as of 9/12/12 (on my mains) Total 2907 hours.K'zoontite has been on active duty for 34 days, 3 hours, Bot Fly has been on active duty for 55 days, 4 hours, Poppa Capp has been on active duty for 4 days, 12 hours, B'zooka has been on active duty for 12 days, 22 hours,Tater(fed) has been on active duty for 14 days, 10 hours,
  • the4monkeysthe4monkeys Member Posts: 172 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I thought I was one that suggested classic tourney!
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  • amidoinitrightamidoinitright Member Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I thought I was one that suggested classic tourney!

    I've been gone awhile, so i don't know who's idea it was. One of the other cofounders of my fleet sent me hilberts proposal on Facebook, & I'm coming back to do this. PVP was terribad when I left. & I'm thinking that this would be fun. I'm just afraid there will not be enough interest in it to make it work, & after the tourney I'll leave STO again, because I don't have the money to stay competitive anymore.

    I'd love to see a Panda spinoff fleet willing to do this. Maybe "the Classically Sad Pandas"?
    & Mancom, I have no problems with peeps setting up alts to do this, or people doing this by just switching ships. I just think the idea would last longer with some people dedicated to this. I could do this all day myself. I quit because PVP became P2W. I have probably spent over $500 on this game buying ships & equipment. I don't want to have to spend any more money to have fun pew pewing, & I'm hoping that I'm not the only PVPer out there who thinks the same way. when I left the last season, i had the "best gear" for my ships possible. I'm tired of having to get new gear to keep up, & paying to gamble for new gear for all of my alts made me quit this game.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Time played in game. as of 9/12/12 (on my mains) Total 2907 hours.K'zoontite has been on active duty for 34 days, 3 hours, Bot Fly has been on active duty for 55 days, 4 hours, Poppa Capp has been on active duty for 4 days, 12 hours, B'zooka has been on active duty for 12 days, 22 hours,Tater(fed) has been on active duty for 14 days, 10 hours,
  • xtremenoob1xtremenoob1 Member Posts: 489 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I've been gone awhile, so i don't know who's idea it was. One of the other cofounders of my fleet sent me hilberts proposal on Facebook, & I'm coming back to do this. PVP was terribad when I left. & I'm thinking that this would be fun. I'm just afraid there will not be enough interest in it to make it work, & after the tourney I'll leave STO again, because I don't have the money to stay competitive anymore.

    I'd love to see a Panda spinoff fleet willing to do this. Maybe "the Classically Sad Pandas"?
    & Mancom, I have no problems with peeps setting up alts to do this, or people doing this by just switching ships. I just think the idea would last longer with some people dedicated to this. I could do this all day myself. I quit because PVP became P2W. I have probably spent over $500 on this game buying ships & equipment. I don't want to have to spend any more money to have fun pew pewing, & I'm hoping that I'm not the only PVPer out there who thinks the same way. when I left the last season, i had the "best gear" for my ships possible. I'm tired of having to get new gear to keep up, & paying to gamble for new gear for all of my alts made me quit this game.

    Newb! Send you a message on facebook and you're haxing the forums!

    FYI, I have a alt fleet we can use already made KDF if you decide to you want to do that. I even have 1 of the engies I plan to dedicate to the classic cause. You may remember him from late 2010 early 2011 :)

    Anyway good to see you posting again Bot! Been too long buddy.
    -X-/Pandas - Pheo
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  • redrickyredricky Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I've been running Jack Squat in the I.K.S. Swagless as a toon without rep gear or passives, although I did put him in the fleet Norgh. Honestly I kind of gave up and started doing the radiation scan grind for rom marks while waiting for a match because I kept feeling like if I put my other tac with 3 crit consoles, rep +crit, rom doffs, blah blah blah that I'd be popping more feds immediately.

    It would be fun on a level playing field, but I'm freaking awful at actually showing up to pew on appointment unless it's after my kids are asleep. I can't promise availability for actual tournaments but I can promise a toon to help you start a fleet that I'll keep to the restrictions.
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  • amidoinitrightamidoinitright Member Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    It's good to have a reason to come back Pheo! I can't afford to keep upgrading all of my alts to keep them competitive anymore. I'm updating my client now. & I'll hop on the game Friday. I'll see if I can find my mike & try to get on our voice coms again. Can you send me the link on FB?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Time played in game. as of 9/12/12 (on my mains) Total 2907 hours.K'zoontite has been on active duty for 34 days, 3 hours, Bot Fly has been on active duty for 55 days, 4 hours, Poppa Capp has been on active duty for 4 days, 12 hours, B'zooka has been on active duty for 12 days, 22 hours,Tater(fed) has been on active duty for 14 days, 10 hours,
  • amidoinitrightamidoinitright Member Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    redricky wrote: »
    I've been running Jack Squat in the I.K.S. Swagless as a toon without rep gear or passives, although I did put him in the fleet Norgh. Honestly I kind of gave up and started doing the radiation scan grind for rom marks while waiting for a match because I kept feeling like if I put my other tac with 3 crit consoles, rep +crit, rom doffs, blah blah blah that I'd be popping more feds immediately.

    It would be fun on a level playing field, but I'm freaking awful at actually showing up to pew on appointment unless it's after my kids are asleep. I can't promise availability for actual tournaments but I can promise a toon to help you start a fleet that I'll keep to the restrictions.

    Man I'd be in a fleet with you anytime.I'm glad to know that you're still here. & I'm not as interested in pewing on schedule, I've got 2 daughters myself.I'd just like to be able to hop on & pew using what cryptic gave us before PW turned PVP into P2W. Hell, I'd be willing to play ANY game without doffs, set gear & romrep dropbox BS & ect. STO turned me off after I checked my bank records & found I'd sunk over $500 into the game & they wanted me to pay even more to pew. Seriously, I'm sick of that buisness model, & have gone back to playing civ5 & total war to avoid the money trap. I'd love to get back to STO if there where enough people who where as sick of the dropbox BS as I am.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Time played in game. as of 9/12/12 (on my mains) Total 2907 hours.K'zoontite has been on active duty for 34 days, 3 hours, Bot Fly has been on active duty for 55 days, 4 hours, Poppa Capp has been on active duty for 4 days, 12 hours, B'zooka has been on active duty for 12 days, 22 hours,Tater(fed) has been on active duty for 14 days, 10 hours,
  • xtremenoob1xtremenoob1 Member Posts: 489 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Man I'd be in a fleet with you anytime.I'm glad to know that you're still here. & I'm not as interested in pewing on schedule, I've got 2 daughters myself.I'd just like to be able to hop on & pew using what cryptic gave us before PW turned PVP into P2W. Hell, I'd be willing to play ANY game without doffs, set gear & romrep dropbox BS & ect. STO turned me off after I checked my bank records & found I'd sunk over $500 into the game & they wanted me to pay even more to pew. Seriously, I'm sick of that buisness model, & have gone back to playing civ5 & total war to avoid the money trap. I'd love to get back to STO if there where enough people who where as sick of the dropbox BS as I am.

    I wouldn't want to even look at what I've spent. But I know it's not as much as some. But I don't care for all the fancy lobi toys. If I can't buy it on the exchange or do a stupid PVE mission for it, I can play without it.

    I work this evening but will be around afternoon/evening on Friday. I sent you the TS/Vent info where I frequent so catch up soon dude!
    -X-/Pandas - Pheo
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • amidoinitrightamidoinitright Member Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I wouldn't want to even look at what I've spent. But I know it's not as much as some. But I don't care for all the fancy lobi toys. If I can't buy it on the exchange or do a stupid PVE mission for it, I can play without it.

    I work this evening but will be around afternoon/evening on Friday. I sent you the TS/Vent info where I frequent so catch up soon dude!

    Wilco. :cool:
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Time played in game. as of 9/12/12 (on my mains) Total 2907 hours.K'zoontite has been on active duty for 34 days, 3 hours, Bot Fly has been on active duty for 55 days, 4 hours, Poppa Capp has been on active duty for 4 days, 12 hours, B'zooka has been on active duty for 12 days, 22 hours,Tater(fed) has been on active duty for 14 days, 10 hours,
  • amidoinitrightamidoinitright Member Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Although I gotta say I'm kinda scared to hop onto Panda vent, it seems every time those guys see me they blow me up 1st. :(
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Time played in game. as of 9/12/12 (on my mains) Total 2907 hours.K'zoontite has been on active duty for 34 days, 3 hours, Bot Fly has been on active duty for 55 days, 4 hours, Poppa Capp has been on active duty for 4 days, 12 hours, B'zooka has been on active duty for 12 days, 22 hours,Tater(fed) has been on active duty for 14 days, 10 hours,
  • thumappthumapp Member Posts: 146 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Is it time for Baby Era: Classic PvP? I think so. :eek:
    .The Spanish Inquisition.
    TSI -- Star Trek Online PvP Vidoes (Youtube)
    /channel_join OrganizedPVP If you are interested in learning PVP, looking for a team, or a private match.
  • snoge00fsnoge00f Member Posts: 1,812 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    "Deal with it." ;)
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  • xtremenoob1xtremenoob1 Member Posts: 489 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    although I Gotta Say I'm Kinda Scared To Hop Onto Panda Vent, It Seems Every Time Those Guys See Me They Blow Me Up 1st. :(

    Heal Sponge! :D
    -X-/Pandas - Pheo
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • amidoinitrightamidoinitright Member Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Heal Sponge! :D

    inorite. They HATE my Kar-Fi.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Time played in game. as of 9/12/12 (on my mains) Total 2907 hours.K'zoontite has been on active duty for 34 days, 3 hours, Bot Fly has been on active duty for 55 days, 4 hours, Poppa Capp has been on active duty for 4 days, 12 hours, B'zooka has been on active duty for 12 days, 22 hours,Tater(fed) has been on active duty for 14 days, 10 hours,
  • talzerotwotalzerotwo Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Just the other day as I was reinstalling sto, I was thinking how much fun a classics ship pvp session would... classics as in fed ships only... I personally LOVE YOUR IDEA :D if only the ambassador (my all time favorite ship that tugs at my heart) were to be allowed... but we cant have everything. I hope this idea works out :D
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  • mustafatennickmustafatennick Member Posts: 868 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Hey folks I'm in on this

    My laptop is dead but I should have it back by Thursday

    I have an eng that I would like to put in klink side
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