Its simple enough
if your character is flying a Cardassian ship (and only if he is) and wishes to be a cardassian we could have a Z store token to respecies the captain (and Crew) to cardassians
The same could apply for Jem hadar ships (respecies as a vorta with a jem hadar crew)
Breen ships (respecies as a breen)
Etc
this would remove all the non faction ships from starfleet and the KDF to some degree
So, you're saying you think it's more realistic to have Starfleet Admirals giving orders to Cardassians in Galors than it is to have Starfleet officers using a refit Galor?
I would have thought this would make your usual canon and immersion objections worse, not better.
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So, you're saying you think it's more realistic to have Starfleet Admirals giving orders to Cardassians in Galors than it is to have Starfleet officers using a refit Galor?
I would have thought this would make your usual canon and immersion objections worse, not better.
Aren't the Cardassians basically exactly where the Bajorans were at the beginning of DS9 with regard to the Federation? A few votes shy of joining, bosom buddies aside from some hold out terror cells?
Giving orders to Cardassians makes about as much sense to me as Kira being Sisko's First Officer. I'd half expect a Cardassian on DS9's senior staff and a Galor docked there to assist in Federation/Bajoran/Cardassian allied operations in the sector.
Aren't the Cardassians basically exactly where the Bajorans were at the beginning of DS9 with regard to the Federation? A few votes shy of joining, bosom buddies aside from some hold out terror cells?
Giving orders to Cardassians makes about as much sense to me as Kira being Sisko's First Officer. I'd half expect a Cardassian on DS9's senior staff and a Galor docked there to assist in Federation/Bajoran/Cardassian allied operations in the sector.
Except for one thing, DS9 was not a Federation Station. it was used and administered by the Federation, but was owned by Bajor. So having a mixed staff, including a Bajoran First officer makes perfect sense (well maybe not "perfect" sense, but it does make sense)
Except for one thing, DS9 was not a Federation Station. it was used and administered by the Federation, but was owned by Bajor. So having a mixed staff, including a Bajoran First officer makes perfect sense (well maybe not "perfect" sense, but it does make sense)
Well, yes. But flip that around. The Federation had postings on a non-Federation station. So the Cardassians having postings on a Federation station kinda makes for a similar situation. It would indicate that they're being involved.
Honestly, my take would probably be to make the station doctor or chief engineer a Cardassian Defense Force officer. Not sure we've seen who currently holds either role.
In fact, I'm not sure who any of the station senior staff are aside from Kurland and the Irish lady who got killed.
Cardassian officers and crews working with starfleet as an "allied unit" or "exchange unit"
makes a lot more sense than starfleet officers bombing round the cosmos in a galor
Basically the ambitious Cardassian officers WANT to serve as associate Federation or KDF units as its currently illegal for them to advance in cardassian service
and it makes a LOT more sense than you might think
I can't say I'm in favor of this idea simply because people change ships on occasion, be that to fit a purpose, mission or goal, or because something new is released. Would people really continually buy these tokens each time they jump to a new alien ship? I know I wouldn't.
So, you're saying you think it's more realistic to have Starfleet Admirals giving orders to Cardassians in Galors than it is to have Starfleet officers using a refit Galor?
I would have thought this would make your usual canon and immersion objections worse, not better.
As an avid follower of the forum, you should know by now that "canon" can be bent in any direction and include everything from "Roddenberry-Canon"-only to everything including books and the STO storyline, depending on which idea Sollvax wants to see implemented or prevented.
I could see the CDF working hand in hand with Starfleet sure no problem. As long as the change was permanent I myself would have no issues with it.However I have to ask what would happen to that toons "Other" ships?
Cardassian officers and crews working with starfleet as an "allied unit" or "exchange unit"
makes a lot more sense than starfleet officers bombing round the cosmos in a galor
I have a simple explanation for it with my own Cardassian character.
He serves as an exchange officer--which ALSO explains why he got command so quickly as seen in the STO tutorial. He wasn't a green ensign out of the Academy, but an experienced officer that, when the command crew was killed, the others looked to during the emergency because of his experience. As a result, Berat holds a dual commission in the STO universe: he is both a Starfleet captain (VADM, technically, in the game) and a Cardassian Defense Force gul.
Once he advanced far enough, a deal was worked out where he could bring a certain number of his trusted bridge officers to serve as exchange officers under him as a Cardassian gul, on his Galor. (Since you can't see the rest of the ship's corridors, you can assume there's a Cardassian crew belowdecks.) Because of his dual commission, this ship still retains the rights to enter Sector 001 and dock at ESD. But this, I think, makes at least some sense.
I really, really hope that instead of forcing Cardassia into the Federation, that a storyline is pursued officially by Cryptic where the Cardassians are simply allies and partners--but regain their freedoms to administer their own territory.
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I would have thought this would make your usual canon and immersion objections worse, not better.
Aren't the Cardassians basically exactly where the Bajorans were at the beginning of DS9 with regard to the Federation? A few votes shy of joining, bosom buddies aside from some hold out terror cells?
Giving orders to Cardassians makes about as much sense to me as Kira being Sisko's First Officer. I'd half expect a Cardassian on DS9's senior staff and a Galor docked there to assist in Federation/Bajoran/Cardassian allied operations in the sector.
Except for one thing, DS9 was not a Federation Station. it was used and administered by the Federation, but was owned by Bajor. So having a mixed staff, including a Bajoran First officer makes perfect sense (well maybe not "perfect" sense, but it does make sense)
Well, yes. But flip that around. The Federation had postings on a non-Federation station. So the Cardassians having postings on a Federation station kinda makes for a similar situation. It would indicate that they're being involved.
Honestly, my take would probably be to make the station doctor or chief engineer a Cardassian Defense Force officer. Not sure we've seen who currently holds either role.
In fact, I'm not sure who any of the station senior staff are aside from Kurland and the Irish lady who got killed.
makes a lot more sense than starfleet officers bombing round the cosmos in a galor
Basically the ambitious Cardassian officers WANT to serve as associate Federation or KDF units as its currently illegal for them to advance in cardassian service
and it makes a LOT more sense than you might think
no more "latest ship latest species" leaping
Pretty sure she was Scottish?
As an avid follower of the forum, you should know by now that "canon" can be bent in any direction and include everything from "Roddenberry-Canon"-only to everything including books and the STO storyline, depending on which idea Sollvax wants to see implemented or prevented.
Ah, got it; "people are having fun near me incorrectly" trumps "lack of canon breaks my immersion".
No
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"people want to be cardassians lets let them"
I have a simple explanation for it with my own Cardassian character.
He serves as an exchange officer--which ALSO explains why he got command so quickly as seen in the STO tutorial. He wasn't a green ensign out of the Academy, but an experienced officer that, when the command crew was killed, the others looked to during the emergency because of his experience. As a result, Berat holds a dual commission in the STO universe: he is both a Starfleet captain (VADM, technically, in the game) and a Cardassian Defense Force gul.
Once he advanced far enough, a deal was worked out where he could bring a certain number of his trusted bridge officers to serve as exchange officers under him as a Cardassian gul, on his Galor. (Since you can't see the rest of the ship's corridors, you can assume there's a Cardassian crew belowdecks.) Because of his dual commission, this ship still retains the rights to enter Sector 001 and dock at ESD. But this, I think, makes at least some sense.
I really, really hope that instead of forcing Cardassia into the Federation, that a storyline is pursued officially by Cryptic where the Cardassians are simply allies and partners--but regain their freedoms to administer their own territory.
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