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logicalspocklogicalspock Member Posts: 836 Arc User
I really do like this game, but the way it seems like every new feature has been monetized has gotten me down for the last year.

However, for the first time in quite a while, I am really excited about what is coming down the pipe!

The Enterprise C comes back from the past with full voice acting by a Next Generation actress?

And, we get a free Ambassador class ship for doing the mission? *

This is the Star Trek I grew up with and why I bought this game when it came out. I am really looking forward to it. I just wanted to thank all the developers of the game for making me feel like I was six again, waiting in anticipation for the next episode of the Next Generation that was previewed the week before.


*This is my speculation based on limited facts. Actual reality may vary.
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  • trellabortrellabor Member Posts: 209 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I really do like this game, but the way it seems like every new feature has been monetized has gotten me down for the last year.

    However, for the first time in quite a while, I am really excited about what is coming down the pipe!

    The Enterprise C comes back from the past with full voice acting by a Next Generation actress?

    And, we get a free Ambassador class ship for doing the mission? *

    This is the Star Trek I grew up with and why I bought this game when it came out. I am really looking forward to it. I just wanted to thank all the developers of the game for making me feel like I was six again, waiting in anticipation for the next episode of the Next Generation that was previewed the week before.


    *This is my speculation based on limited facts. Actual reality may vary.

    I think it is highly unlikely it will be free, they just gave out a ship over the Holiday Event for basically 'free'. They know people have been chomping at the bit for an Enterprise-C and there's no way Cryptic isn't going to capitalize on that opportunity for $$$$$.

    I see more Reputation systems on the horizon from what Dstahl was saying, and that is not good news IMO. I was hoping to see a slight return to the excitement of random world drops and not additional resource sink grindfests to eat up your time @ 50.....which is still max level. /Yawn.
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  • latinumbarlatinumbar Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    trellabor wrote: »
    I think it is highly unlikely it will be free, they just gave out a ship over the Holiday Event for basically 'free'. They know people have been chomping at the bit for an Enterprise-C and there's no way Cryptic isn't going to capitalize on that opportunity for $$$$$.

    There may be a 'free' version, and a z-store version - like they did with last year's Oddyssey.
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  • voyagerfan9751voyagerfan9751 Member Posts: 1,120 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    latinumbar wrote: »
    There may be a 'free' version, and a z-store version - like they did with last year's Oddyssey.

    This. I am thinking the anniversary will give us a Free "preview" ambassador. It will be rather weak and probably mostly useless, but will give you a feel for what is to come. Like test driving a car.

    A few months or so later, The C-store version will come out with all the bells and whistles that make it a worthwhile and awesome addition to the game.
  • logicalspocklogicalspock Member Posts: 836 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I think it will be something like the Odyssey given away last year.


    There will be a good, solid T-5 version of it given away for free for a very limited time.

    Then, there will be an enhanced c-store version of it offered.

    I am not sure they are going to go the 5000 zen point, three option package route, but with they are going to sell it, or an upgraded version of it, after the Anniversary event.

    The same goes for all the other ships they have given away to players: the Constitution, the Raptor with the bioneural torpedos, the Odyssey, and probably the Breen Ship too.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,557 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    The Ambassador and its KDF counterpart will be free with a good chance of C-Store versions. Although, I doubt that there will be 3 different C-Store versions. It seems like the devs want 3-pack bundle versions of the Escort, Science Vessel, and Cruiser due to the Odyssey and Vesta bundles. Having another cruiser bundle just doesn't seem likely and the Ambassador will be a cruiser since all Enterprises are cruisers. Although, the KDF ship could be a science vessel or escort type ship so the C-Store version could be a 3-pack bundle.
  • logicalspocklogicalspock Member Posts: 836 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    starkaos wrote: »
    The Ambassador and its KDF counterpart will be free with a good chance of C-Store versions. Although, I doubt that there will be 3 different C-Store versions. It seems like the devs want 3-pack bundle versions of the Escort, Science Vessel, and Cruiser due to the Odyssey and Vesta bundles. Having another cruiser bundle just doesn't seem likely and the Ambassador will be a cruiser since all Enterprises are cruisers. Although, the KDF ship could be a science vessel or escort type ship so the C-Store version could be a 3-pack bundle.

    I think the only real question is whether the c-store version will be an upgraded version of the free one.

    I suspect it will be a cruiser, but it does not have to be. After all, the Vesta looks a lot like a cruiser, but is in fact a science ship.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,557 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Of course, assuming that there is a C-Store version of the Ambassador, then it will be an upgraded version of the Ambassador. So it will have an extra console for the new console and maybe some other changes.
  • reimu#1706 reimu Member Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    useless should be hauled away as garbage along with the ToS Connie and the NX never existed 01
  • corbinwolf#9797 corbinwolf Member Posts: 565 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    useless should be hauled away as garbage along with the ToS Connie and the NX never existed 01

    Sacrilegious! :eek:

    I do wish they would make set ships Tier III or V retrofits. Say what you will but if teeny tiny Defiant can pack a punch why not a retrofitted classic?! I know I wish the Enterprise A was still usable, I prefer it to some of the many newer models including the Galaxy Class starship.

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  • logicalspocklogicalspock Member Posts: 836 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    useless should be hauled away as garbage along with the ToS Connie and the NX never existed 01


    I am not sure why you are playing this game, but a lot of us are because we love classic Star Trek, which includes the the NX, TOS, and Yesterday's Enterprise.
  • reimu#1706 reimu Member Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I am not sure why you are playing this game, but a lot of us are because we love classic Star Trek, which includes the the NX, TOS, and Yesterday's Enterprise.


    You say you love Star Trek yet people are refusing to allow it to grow they are stuck in their past Nastolgia being the ruining factor of the time line some of the ships they are requesting is over 200 years old they are way past their service time and don't give me that BS about refitting the Enterprise got decommissioned for being 20 years old they didn't refit her because with the brand new Excelsior there was little point

    heck they only rebuilt it it to pamper kirk and even then it was no match for the excelsior in terms of technology heck it was not for Scotty maybe the Transwarp drive had actually worked by TNG there was no connies left they was obsolete something the fan base can't seem to accept heck even the Miranda and Excelsiors was nothing more then glorified workhorses they was not the backbone of the fleet mere expendable ships

    People used the argument but admirals used the excelsior so it must be good still .... did it ever occure to you people that the reason admirals used the excelsior class was that all the actual tech ship was to busy to waste ferrying flag officers around other then the Lakota not a single Excelsior had gotten a full upgrade and I suspect that it was not Starfleet's policy to introduce such a radical upgrade to such a old ship Vice Admiral Layton most likely authorized the upgrade and never bothered to consult anyone about it the Defiant Crew seemed surprised about the upgrades
  • lordagamemnonb5lordagamemnonb5 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    You say you love Star Trek yet people are refusing to allow it to grow they are stuck in their past Nastolgia being the ruining factor of the time line some of the ships they are requesting is over 200 years old they are way past their service time and don't give me that BS about refitting the Enterprise got decommissioned for being 20 years old they didn't refit her because with the brand new Excelsior there was little point

    heck they only rebuilt it it to pamper kirk and even then it was no match for the excelsior in terms of technology heck it was not for Scotty maybe the Transwarp drive had actually worked by TNG there was no connies left they was obsolete something the fan base can't seem to accept heck even the Miranda and Excelsiors was nothing more then glorified workhorses they was not the backbone of the fleet mere expendable ships

    People used the argument but admirals used the excelsior so it must be good still .... did it ever occure to you people that the reason admirals used the excelsior class was that all the actual tech ship was to busy to waste ferrying flag officers around other then the Lakota not a single Excelsior had gotten a full upgrade and I suspect that it was not Starfleet's policy to introduce such a radical upgrade to such a old ship Vice Admiral Layton most likely authorized the upgrade and never bothered to consult anyone about it the Defiant Crew seemed surprised about the upgrades

    Dude, we have punctuation marks for a reason.

    That aside, the people here like their classic ships. My feelings on that are irrelevant; I will not begrudge a guy his free time. If he wants to putt around in a classic ship, so be it. The Oddessy and Vesta has shown that Cryptic will add 25th Century ships (for some money of course :D ) and cater to the "modern" ship fans, while at the same time catering to the classic ship people.

    Me? I really want those weapon belts that the alternate Enterpirse-D crew wore on Yesterday's Enterprise (the officer and enlisted versions).
    How the Devs see Star Trek, apparently:
    Star Trek: The Original Grind
    Star Trek: The Next Grind
    Star Trek: Deep Space Grind
    Star Trek: Voyage to the Grind
  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I do wish they would make set ships Tier III or V retrofits. Say what you will but if teeny tiny Defiant can pack a punch why not a retrofitted classic?! I know I wish the Enterprise A was still usable, I prefer it to some of the many newer models including the Galaxy Class starship.

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  • gammadelta2gammadelta2 Member Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I'm just looking forward to the third party popper.:D
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  • logicalspocklogicalspock Member Posts: 836 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    You say you love Star Trek yet people are refusing to allow it to grow they are stuck in their past Nastolgia being the ruining factor of the time line some of the ships they are requesting is over 200 years old they are way past their service time and don't give me that BS about refitting the Enterprise got decommissioned for being 20 years old they didn't refit her because with the brand new Excelsior there was little point

    heck they only rebuilt it it to pamper kirk and even then it was no match for the excelsior in terms of technology heck it was not for Scotty maybe the Transwarp drive had actually worked by TNG there was no connies left they was obsolete something the fan base can't seem to accept heck even the Miranda and Excelsiors was nothing more then glorified workhorses they was not the backbone of the fleet mere expendable ships

    People used the argument but admirals used the excelsior so it must be good still .... did it ever occure to you people that the reason admirals used the excelsior class was that all the actual tech ship was to busy to waste ferrying flag officers around other then the Lakota not a single Excelsior had gotten a full upgrade and I suspect that it was not Starfleet's policy to introduce such a radical upgrade to such a old ship Vice Admiral Layton most likely authorized the upgrade and never bothered to consult anyone about it the Defiant Crew seemed surprised about the upgrades

    You have this whole wall of text claiming that allowing Star Trek fans to fly their favorite ships from the Star Trek franchise is somehow bad for the game, but you have not provided a single concrete example of how this game would be better if someone's favorite ship was not included.

    So please tell us, what is your favorite ship from the shows and how would this game be significantly better if that ship were unavailable within the game.

    The fact is, if you want to fly a non-canon design, almost every canon ship comes with two or three non-canon variants. But, judging from the ships I see flying around the STO galaxy, there are a lot of trekkies out there that want to fly their favorite ships from the show.

    The whole point of the game is to allow trekkies to realize their fantasies in a computer simulation, not to be a new Star Trek television show.
  • reimu#1706 reimu Member Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    what you describe is paradox did the Galaxy exist during ToS? no it didn't but yet people accepted it why? because it was featured in a series how is that different then a game we never saw any original series ship again in Tng yet no one complained why is that surely the introduction of ships like the nebula and the galaxy and the akira and the sovereign would by considered none iconic ships they was just ships someone came up with for that show just as cryptic has their own designs for this area are they any less valid then the Galaxy in TNG? simply because its a game?

    as for favorite ships I don't have any you see unlike you I'm not stuck in the past I use the ship that gets the job done and fits the setting be it a Cryptic Design of my 29th cent wells yes the wells is indeed a canon ship from Voyager however unlike your prehistoric scrap yard museums it has not been invented yet
  • logicalspocklogicalspock Member Posts: 836 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    what you describe is paradox did the Galaxy exist during ToS? no it didn't but yet people accepted it why? because it was featured in a series how is that different then a game we never saw any original series ship again in Tng yet no one complained why is that surely the introduction of ships like the nebula and the galaxy and the akira and the sovereign would by considered none iconic ships they was just ships someone came up with for that show just as cryptic has their own designs for this area are they any less valid then the Galaxy in TNG? simply because its a game?

    as for favorite ships I don't have any you see unlike you I'm not stuck in the past I use the ship that gets the job done and fits the setting be it a Cryptic Design of my 29th cent wells yes the wells is indeed a canon ship from Voyager however unlike your prehistoric scrap yard museums it has not been invented yet

    So, you do not think that Trekkies should be able to fly their favorite ships from the show in this game yet you cannot provide a single, concrete example about how it would improve the game. You are a Star Trek fan but you do not have a favorite ship from the shows. Do I have that right?
  • reimu#1706 reimu Member Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    star trek was never about the ships, the explosions or the flashy cgi it was about exploring the human condition as stated by Gene Roddenberry himself I don't need to have a favorite ship to be a fan of star trek
  • chandlerasharichandlerashari Member Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Imho, cryptic needs to put all the viable for 2409 canon ships in game before even thinking of "the present". im not a hardcore trekker, but many are and cryptic needs to cater to those people first, before gallevanting on their own designs.

    Im not saying that the shouldnt try and make their own designs, im just saying that they are leaving money on the table if they do it now.
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited January 2013

    as for favorite ships I don't have any you see unlike you I'm not stuck in the past I use the ship that gets the job done and fits the setting be it a Cryptic Design of my 29th cent wells yes the wells is indeed a canon ship from Voyager however unlike your prehistoric scrap yard museums it has not been invented yet

    ummmm, your ship should out class everyone since it's from the future, but yet does not...you accept that, but yet can't accept classic ships showing up. ummmm wow:rolleyes:
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  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I have no problem with people wanting to fly thier favourites from the series, although most cruisers and a few other ships look alot alike so I don't understand the excitement over the Ambassador Class. Still if you want it, more power to you.

    Me I like the Orion Ships, which while influenced by the Orion Ships on Enterprise, are original designs.

    I was disappointed that they don't have the,lience to JJ Abrams Star Trek as it means no Jellyfish or Narada for STO.
  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,991 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    You say you love Star Trek yet people are refusing to allow it to grow they are stuck in their past Nastolgia being the ruining factor of the time line some of the ships they are requesting is over 200 years old they are way past their service time and don't give me that BS about refitting the Enterprise got decommissioned for being 20 years old they didn't refit her because with the brand new Excelsior there was little point

    OK,

    I agree, we must let it grow.

    That means that according to recent events, Next Gen never happened.

    Thanks to JJ we are right back at TOS just with more modern ships.

    Too bad they don't get the rights for that, I'd love to fly the New Enterprise. :)
  • silverserasilversera Member Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    latinumbar wrote: »
    There may be a 'free' version, and a z-store version - like they did with last year's Oddyssey.


    That's pretty much what I am expecting, a free barebone version and a +1 zen version
  • mercurythefirstmercurythefirst Member Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Sacrilegious! :eek:

    I do wish they would make set ships Tier III or V retrofits. Say what you will but if teeny tiny Defiant can pack a punch why not a retrofitted classic?!

    The Defiant was and is the Federation's only purpouse-built offensive Warship.

    Star Trek is just about the only sci-fi franchise to have gotten it right: the most powerful ships of war would be smaller, not larger (at Starfleet's level of technology) simply because in space combat, inertia is your number one enemy.

    You can purpouse-build a ship the size of a Dreadnought to wage nothing but war, but suddenly you're a cumbersome platform and relying (in the shows/movies) on many underpowered 360-degree weapon platforms instead of very destructive fore weapons that you can reliably bring to bear with superior mobility.

    It seems like it's very 'cool' among the uninformed on these forums to rip on the Defiant, as if it was unrealistic somehow that it would be one of the Federation's most powerful vessels. In fact, it's anything but unrealistic.

    It's all down to warp core miniaturization, making a warp core small enough to supply power to this fearsome weaponry, something the Federation have mastered.
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  • thedoctorblueboxthedoctorbluebox Member Posts: 749 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    star trek was never about the ships, the explosions or the flashy cgi it was about exploring the human condition as stated by Gene Roddenberry himself I don't need to have a favorite ship to be a fan of star trek

    Everyone enjoys Star Trek in their own way, you have no right to tell someone how they should experience or enjoy Star Trek. If for someone, it is about the ships, then that is their freedom to enjoy it in that way. I'd rather have more options, than less, let the people play the game how they choose.
  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    The Defiant was and is the Federation's only purpouse-built offensive Warship.

    Star Trek is just about the only sci-fi franchise to have gotten it right: the most powerful ships of war would be smaller, not larger (at Starfleet's level of technology) simply because in space combat, inertia is your number one enemy.

    You can purpouse-build a ship the size of a Dreadnought to wage nothing but war, but suddenly you're a cumbersome platform and relying (in the shows/movies) on many underpowered 360-degree weapon platforms instead of very destructive fore weapons that you can reliably bring to bear with superior mobility.

    It seems like it's very 'cool' among the uninformed on these forums to rip on the Defiant, as if it was unrealistic somehow that it would be one of the Federation's most powerful vessels. In fact, it's anything but unrealistic.

    It's all down to warp core miniaturization, making a warp core small enough to supply power to this fearsome weaponry, something the Federation have mastered.

    You're ignoring the fact that 40 years have passed since the Dominion Wars. Technologies that the Defiant pioneered, and were not deployed on other Federation ships of that era, can very realistically become commonplace on the rest of the fleet in the intervening time.

    Secondly, the Defiant was far from the only warship the federation designed. Look at the various craft originally slated to become part of the anti-Borg task force. Toss those same 40 years filled with constant unrest and intermittent wars, and there is absolutely no reason to believe that a military doctrine and way of thinking defined by the holocaust of the Dominion Wars isn't at the top of many a flag officer's mind.
  • captiandata1captiandata1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    admiral layton was partically right for upgrading the excelior class uss lakota in a time of war to have better armed ships. also admiral layton was totally wrong to has tried to over take the ferderation goverment with the military starfleet.

    as a rewward captain sisko should have been given the uss lakota as his personal ship for saving earth and stopping from admiral layton's illegeal coup and the defenant would have been still a signed to deep space nine.

    as far as older classes starships being in game could be used mostly by cikvian fleets and maitained my federation most loyal cilvians but how were not in starfleet. with such a long war and starfleet to busy fighting and it had too little resorces to fight on the front lines and protect the cilvian fraters and cargo ships. so starfleet allowed the most loyal cilvians to use olders ships and refit the with up to tier 3 current with the condishion of supervision by starfleet and starfleet could use 1 out of every even if cilvians built new older ship classed too. the cilvians would have acccess to all tos ships, early earth starfleet nx and all of nx sister classes and tmp constelation class. starfleet also takes 8 out 10 nx class, conni constitution class, oberth class as starfleets liuetantent officer ships.
    i like to see a verson taffie's in the c-store and tier 3 ships and also see more federation freighters in starttrek online
    starfleet would own and operate excelior class and newer class of starships even the 25 century starfkeet ships.
  • reimu#1706 reimu Member Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    OK,

    I agree, we must let it grow.

    That means that according to recent events, Next Gen never happened.

    Thanks to JJ we are right back at TOS just with more modern ships.

    Too bad they don't get the rights for that, I'd love to fly the New Enterprise. :)

    As far as I'm concerned JJ Trek never happen :D its a bad joke an almost parody they might as well have let bay be the director they got about as much respect for their respect ip's established lore as yes today's garbage but la least we'd get more unwanted explosion and maybe not a I pod bridge

    some people say jj trek is good but a film that prides it self on being nothing but action with a rather crude plot line is not star trek at least not how Roddenberry saw it but ever since the creator of Star Trek died they have been tearing down his legacy conforming it to the brainless mainstream that can't even open their fly without a instruction manual

    Tos, Tng, Ds9, Voy was good .... Enterprise was omg what was they thinking its rubbish and then we got the final nail in the coffin ... the so called Reboot which was nothing but a glorified cash cow

    we didn't need more prequel junk what we needed was a director that actually knew what he was doing
    First Contact was great, Generations, Insurrection, Nemesis maybe not so much the problem is not the time line setting its how you plan the plot frankly the baku was not that interesting not to mention in TNG there was a plot about the exact same thing and guess what picard was fine with moving those people
  • ragestroke008ragestroke008 Member Posts: 203 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    The t.v series may not have been about combat, but this game is. If you like the old designs, fine, but this game is set in Trek's future. Can you imagine how well Enterprise A would fare against the Undine? Logic dictates more futuristic designs, not less.
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    The great thing about star trek is it does not matter the class ship you are in....The original Enterprise and Enterprise D would both be at a disadvantage against V'ger, or The Fesarius ...when exploring the unknown, you will meet Aliens that are so advance you might as well be in a paper star ship.
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