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Tired of reassigning all the Boff everytime I switch ship.

archofwinterarchofwinter Member Posts: 215 Arc User
edited February 2013 in Controls and User Interface
Can we have the option to save the Boff assign to the bridge station on everyone of our ship?
I switch ships depending on the situation and how I want to play depending on my mood and it is a bit annoying that I have to reassign my Boff every time.

While on the subject on saving Boff assignment, can we have the option to save several different away teams? Let us save different combination of our Boff to choose from in a away team so we can pick and choose our tactic and play style on the fly.
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  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    YES, this would be great to have saved BOFF configurations. :)

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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Then don't switch ship
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  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    sry, but my BOFF setup stays exactly the same when i switch ship...if it was a ship that i previously already set up. A new ship will allways be empty.

    if i switch between my 2 escorts, everything is in place on my second escort. When i switch back to my first all boffs are setup and ready to go, so are all boff powers in the tray of both ships...allways.

    the only stuff that gets inbetween are weapons on the tray...i remove them manually, or put them soemwhere in the 10th row.

    not sure why it is not functioning for you, for me it does.
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  • cohcovcoxcohcovcox Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    saving configs would be a nice feature, but i don't know why my boffs seemingly randomly go missins when i get back to my ship. can't they even have ONE configuration remembered? thank goodness our clothes are not so loosely connected to us every time we load into a map... but really it's annoying to find a ship with vacant boff stations
  • gerwalk0769gerwalk0769 Member Posts: 1,095 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    This would be great. I usually fly one ship, but I picked up the free Warship and the constant BOFF and DOFF switch-outs are tedious as I fiddle with configuring the new ship.
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  • jamienx02jamienx02 Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Don't switch ship - what a stupid comment.

    I currently switch between my Chimera and Tactical Escort Retrofit and re-assigning the boffs is a pain, especially if i forget to do it before going in to an STF. The tray is now set out so that all the powers go to the same place, but it would be nice to secure them in place or for the boffs not to be removed when changing ship. Maybe when on the ship selection page, it shows you which boffs go where for each ship, instead of having to sort it after its been set as active.
  • chuckingramchuckingram Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    jamienx02 wrote: »
    Don't switch ship - what a stupid comment.

    Yeah, it's a deeply stupid comment, but that sort of troll-happy BS seems fine here, so...

    OT: I too am SO sick of this. For me it started with S7. Once I assign Boffs and tray designations why in the world would the devs NOT see having to do it all over again everytime I change ships as a MAJOR interface problem that needs to be corrected immediately.

    Hey, what happpened to that fix for the equally idiotic ship "repair" interface? Last I heard dstahl said that he was aware if it. That was, what... a month ago?
  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I have yet to try it, but say you put the boff/captain skills of ship 1 in rows 1, 2 and 3. You could then switch ships, reassign stations and whatnot, and then put the boff/captain skills of ship 2 in rows 4, 5 and 6. Will that avoid all the problems? Just switch to the new rows when you change ship.
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  • chuckingramchuckingram Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    This may work, or fail completely as a remedy. For the sake of argument, wouldn't it be just GREAT if they started fixing these sorts of issues, instead constantly producing more?
  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,249 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    /signed +1.

    Sometimes when I switch between ships the BOffs Assignments and the Ability Icons in the Power Tray (from Captain, BOffs, Gear, Devices, Set Powers, Inventory Items, Pets, etc.) do seem to stay in place. Sometimes there's a partial carryover, requiring some manual tweaking. Other times I have rebuild my setup from scratch.

    It would be great if I could save/load these builds.

    I would be more likely to change ships. (Meaning I'd be more likely to buy more ships!)

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  • redstarsweredstarswe Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    This is why I will never do a shuttle event.
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  • vimzulvimzul Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    All that needs to be done is add some saved data to each ship object, and they have stored data because they record customisation options for them currently. You just then add a reference to which boff was in which slot and also save which abilities/items you had in each ability bar. This sounds like a lot of addition data but it is just database references.

    All they would need is a small routine added to the end of the ship changing code at the end to take that data at the end of the ship object and re-sort the boff and abilities with the saved data.

    If the boff and ability is no longer there then leave the boff slot and ability slots that referred to them blank.

    It really can't be that much extra work to fix it.
  • crusty8maccrusty8mac Member Posts: 1,381 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Ship BOff configurations - mine at least - were being saved, and switching ships caused no problems. It seems that with the introduction of the Winter Wonderland that several bugs were introduced into the tray system, including missing BOffs on switching ships.

    I haven't filed any bug reports, since I am hoping the bugs introduced with the Winter Wonderland will disappear when it goes away. Of course, I'm a hopeless optimist.
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  • tfomegatfomega Member Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Submitted this post as ticket 130108-000207

    In addition to responding to OP and contributing to this thread, I also reported my issues in the GamePlay bugs forum with the ticket number: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=7398181#post7398181


    I am also tired of the following (in addition to the OP's and other members' posts):

    1) When I switch out my boffs, it doesn't remember the last locations in the tray that a power was assigned. This DOES work or at least used to up until around S7! I keep my powers in exactly the same locations correspondent to other boff powers.

    For example... I have 2 tactical boffs. One has APO3 and the other has APB3 (ignoring their own powers for the purpose of this example). I assign the same tray location (0,2) to the APO3 power as I do to the APB3 power. When I switch between boffs, it should remember the last location that the power was assigned to. This may not work for disorganized players, but I keep my power tray organized. It is the only way I can know in a moment's notice where a power is ALWAYS located.

    2) When I run out of batteries, the power tray no longer remembers the last location I had batteries assigned when I equip a fresh supply. I always put the aux battery on location (2,8) of the power tray. If I am running low and I refresh the supply, I'll see the number of available batteries increase on the icon in location (2, 8). If I do not refresh the supply of batteries prior to running out, when I do refresh the supply of batteries by dragging the aux battery supply to my device slot, it will not remember that the device slot in question was last assigned to tray location (2, 8). I then have to open up my available powers tray and drag and drop the aux batteries back on location (2, 8).

    3) It would BE NICE, if in the "available skills - drag to tray" window, the boff officer that has a certain skill were listed in the description of the skill. This would help to facilitate items 1 and 2. If I have two tactical team 1 skills, I is not able to distinguish which skill belongs to which boff in the window, nor am I able to distinguish the order in which the skills are listed if I switch out my BOFFs. If one of my tactical BOFFs assignment/station remains consistent and I switch out the other tactical boff, I should not have to guess which skill I need to drag/drop to my power tray. This has never been in game, but would VERY NICE to have.

    4) When in section space and I press the "u" key to open up the status window, why does it open to my character status window instead of my ship status window? Alternatively, if I am in my shuttle and I press the u key in sector space, why does it not open up my shuttle status window?

    I think the addition of shuttles to the ship status window (key: u) has made 1, 2, and 4 start malfunctioning. This only happened when I equipped a shuttle for the first time and the extra BOFF commander bug, etc... This is the last time this window was specifically edited that I can recall.

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  • atseearratseearr Member Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Saving boff slots and power tray is my #1 want for S8.
  • tehbubbalootehbubbaloo Member Posts: 2,003 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    i have always wished i could save boff/weapon loadouts.
    wouldnt it be great to change from a torp build to a beam build to a cannon build by simply clicking some button? having all the boffs, doffs, consoles, weapons, etc able to be saved and recalled in such a convenient manner?
  • tfomegatfomega Member Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    you asking for boff profiles.. which isn't a bad idea either, but an easier approach is if the game simply remembered the last power tray location that a boff power was assigned to, no matter if we retrained a boff with new powers or not.

    What you stated is that with a flick of a button or drop down, I can have different combinations of boffs for different styles of play.

    For example.. supposed my eng and sci boffs basically stay the same, but I often switch out my tactical boffs depending on the tactical style I need.

    One of my commander tactical boffs is loaded up on APO3/APO1. Perhaps I would name this boff profile as "Tactical Attack Defense"

    Another of my commander tactical boffs is loaded up on APB3/APB1. Perhaps I would name this boff profile as "Tactical Attack Offense"

    This, of course, would only be able to be changed outside of red alert, like current game standards dictate.

    But in lieu of that elaborate new feature that you suggested, which is a good one... how about we just ask for the boff power assignments on the power tray to be fixed so that a specific boff lieutenant power is always assigned to power tray (x, y) regardless and because it was assigned there the last time the boff was used.

    That would meet 85% of your total needs in lieu of the boff profiles idea that you suggested

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  • sonulinu2sonulinu2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    +1 couldn't agree more!

    This should be one of their top priority fixes. It's been an issue for me since launch.

    I switch 3 different boffs when playing PvP from PvE. For the most part (but not all!) the skills of the untouched boffs remain in their original position. I always have to hunt and seek out the new skills. Not only that, but in order to ensure i have all the skills (from unmoved and new boffs) I have to open the master skills list (or whatever that is called) and go through each skill one by one. Then I have to make sure my #7 tray has the right skills for my key bindings.

    Same when I switch back to PvE mode. A save-boff-skill-profile would be a very nice thing to have. Yes Mr. D. Stahl mentioned something about this (vaguely) in one of his interviews but really now, this has been, in one form or another, a bug since the beginning of this game. Why is this taking so long?
  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I have to agree that it is getting tiresome whenever I change ships or re-assign Boffs my action bars get completely scrambled. It will remember locations for Boff and captain skills from ship to ship if you don't change anything, but change one Boff and the whole action bar gets scrambled not just that one Boffs skills, it would be better if there was no automatic linking and sorting happening in the trays, and new skill placement gets prioritized to visible trays.
    I never use the mode 4 action bar because it doesn't create another bar, but just turns off weapons and boff windows and I dislike not being able to change the layout and orientation of the bars. Devices should have their own mini bar rather than taking up already limited action bar space.

    Hopefully when they give us this new ui being mentioned in various dev blogs these problems will be resolved, but I'm not holding my breath.
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  • cdnstridercdnstrider Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    gone are the days of the quick switch ship to ship :(
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  • kalvorax#3775 kalvorax Member Posts: 1,663 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Stahl stated that they would work on adding this.....


    Q: (gerwalk0769) Will STO consider implementing savable ship-specific DOFF and BOFF configurations?

    Dstahl: Yes. Our goal is to get this in game sometime this year before the next Winter Event in either Season 8 or 9.


    make me not so optimistic about having it within the next 6 months...
  • vulcanmonkvulcanmonk Member Posts: 146 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I don't switch out too often, but I have a few powers that I have to manually re-add to my tray. Seems to be a loaction issue rather than tied to a power (tray 6 slot 5). Can't seem to figure out a pattern, but it started happening since WW. I'd be all for a saveable config for each ship/shuttle.
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  • atseearratseearr Member Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    From the latest Ask Cryptic:

    Q: (gerwalk0769) Will STO consider implementing savable ship-specific DOFF and BOFF configurations?

    Dstahl: Yes. Our goal is to get this in game sometime this year before the next Winter Event in either Season 8 or 9.

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  • tehbubbalootehbubbaloo Member Posts: 2,003 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    tfomega wrote: »
    you asking for boff profiles.. which isn't a bad idea either, but an easier approach is if the game simply remembered the last power tray location that a boff power was assigned to, no matter if we retrained a boff with new powers or not.

    What you stated is that with a flick of a button or drop down, I can have different combinations of boffs for different styles of play.

    For example.. supposed my eng and sci boffs basically stay the same, but I often switch out my tactical boffs depending on the tactical style I need.

    One of my commander tactical boffs is loaded up on APO3/APO1. Perhaps I would name this boff profile as "Tactical Attack Defense"

    Another of my commander tactical boffs is loaded up on APB3/APB1. Perhaps I would name this boff profile as "Tactical Attack Offense"

    This, of course, would only be able to be changed outside of red alert, like current game standards dictate.

    But in lieu of that elaborate new feature that you suggested, which is a good one... how about we just ask for the boff power assignments on the power tray to be fixed so that a specific boff lieutenant power is always assigned to power tray (x, y) regardless and because it was assigned there the last time the boff was used.

    That would meet 85% of your total needs in lieu of the boff profiles idea that you suggested

    i would settle for that, yes.
    id be happy even if something as minor as 'lock' actually mean 'lock' and i didnt find things in there simply because i loaded a boff or a weapon or whatnot.
  • joshmaaaaaaansjoshmaaaaaaans Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    BAAAAAAAAAMP.

    I too, hate having to also rearrange my entire ****ing hotbar(s).
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  • poetpwpoetpw Member Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Started day 1; Lifer & founder and for the past 3 years this has grown into my number 1 irritation and aggravation! Over the past 3 years Ive gathered for my main toon more than merely a few ships of differing types and when switching ships especially from one type to a very different type such as an escort tactical to an large Cruiser engineer ive had all the troubles mentioned above. Seems to have gotten worse over the years and the new Shuttle set up seemed to increase the disorganization of skills powers devices etc when switching ships. All in all its a mess unless one plays one ship. I'd hoped by reading up on key binds and hot bars on the forum I'd find a fix for this; instead I found this thread. Ah well the worst aspect of this game now is this problem for anyone who has and uses multiple ships. Hope they fix it sooner than next Winter as said above like THIS SPRING!

    Also as a side note when one has been playing long enough one does have ships that one outgrows; lower level and all, they do is take up space; cant trade them or sell them or give them to a lower lvl Alt or anything. This is just stupid. I like them for a spin once in a while for nostalgia; but its such a complete waste making no sense what so ever that the only option for these ships is discard. They need to change the rules on that too; at least make them account bound so Alts can use them but even that is not enough for when the alts are leveled up the problem still exists? So Either get out Boffs set up as captains to use those ships as talked of in dev blog i read or let us somehow sell or trade them PLEASE.

    Lastly, some folks since Season 7 patch have suddenly found in clusters and nebula etc that they can no longer visually see anymore and thus go to anomalies to scan them to get their combines for crafting. Its been like 3 months that i have not been able to scan and visually see to go to any anomalies in any Nebula or Cluster..

    SO STOP TRYING TO FIX SOMETHING NOT BROKEN LIKE THE FOUNDRY WHICH YOUVE NOW BROKEN AND ACTUALLY FIX SOMETHING THAT IS BROKEN PLEASE!
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  • tonyv1964tonyv1964 Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I haven't been on STO in awhile. I noticed on my HUD that my BO's skill trays were empty. Any idea what this might be?
  • sumghaisumghai Member Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    tonyv1964 wrote: »
    I haven't been on STO in awhile. I noticed on my HUD that my BO's skill trays were empty. Any idea what this might be?
    I believe they recently fixed a bug with universal console on certain ships - but as a consequence, everyone's BOff setups were cleared after the patch.

    It's just a one-off, so you can go in and put your BOff powers back and lock the tray again.
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  • tonyv1964tonyv1964 Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Thanks so much...

    I just went in & tried it & it's all goo d now :-)

    Ever since the switch to Perfect World, my online profile is gone as is my Cryptic points I had purchased previously. My signature, etc. Not sure how to recover

    I'm a 1000 day vet. My forum title says Ensign instead of Veteran.

    Any idea what I need to do to fix this?
  • eric37aeric37a Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Well, I too was sick of this problem. I decided that I would buy extra boff slots so that I could have a full set of different Boffs for each ship that wasn't shared with any other. it was working great till a couple of days ago. Now if I don't fly a ship in a few days the power tray is scrambled. Sent in a ticket that was worded tersely, but I don't expect a response. Mind you I now have 11 ships and hit the limit of 54 Boffs, but if we can't even get people with two ships to work, what hope do I have?
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