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Why must I buy a regular set before the Adapted set?

latinumbarlatinumbar Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited December 2012 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
On my toons that have MACO or KHG ground set, I can buy the respective Adaptive set. But on my toons that have the Omega ground set, I do not have the option to buy the MACO or KHG Adaptive set. Is this intentional? I think this should be changed. If the Adaptive set is what I am looking for, why should I be forced to buy the regular set first just to unlock it? I'm paying basically twice the cost for the adaptive set. :confused:
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  • sandormen123sandormen123 Member Posts: 862 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Good question. I have two theories. First one, someone wants to be an a**-hat.
    Second theory; somewhere in all that cryptic coding (pun intended), it is programmed in such a non-global way, that A leads to B, then C, else FAIL. -when FAIL, we experience bugs.
    Aka. Bad programming.
    So... Combine theory 1 with theory 2; what do we get? =PWE...

    :o

    Anyone dare challenge my hypothesis?
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  • jumpingjsjumpingjs Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    What is the adapted set? I kmow what MACO is , since I own it but what is the adpated set?
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  • assimilatedktarassimilatedktar Member Posts: 1,708 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    jumpingjs wrote: »
    What is the adapted set? I kmow what MACO is , since I own it but what is the adpated set?

    Honor Guard for Feds with a new MACO-like skin and MACO set for KDF with a new Honor Guard skin.
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  • aleaicaleaic Member Posts: 352 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I think the Adaptive sets are simply the 'set' that the Feds and Klinks couldn't access prior to the change over to rep from STF emblems, ala the KHG set is now the stats and gear, for the Adaptive Fed MACO set, and so on complicated yada yada which makes you play more game time to unlock, and not leave sooner for other games and so on so forth...

    Personally I don't mind earning stuff I never could access, since prior, the drop rate for ground STFs for the Mk XII gear, was lousy in the first place, though I too wonder, if this Adapted set, 'needs' to be unlocked at all, if all it is, is for feds, klink gear with a different skin, and no cape, or what not. Not yet to T5 here, and can't confirm, so another will need to do so here, though despite, the unlock bit is odd enough already, other from a pure grind standpoint...

    ...if more for Dil than much else, since that will more than likely slow down acquisition of the gear, as anyone with enough marks and BNPs now, can just get everything at once, within about... oh... a half hour at most? Course there are the unlock bit of completing the Elite STF optionals too, but that's another kit and kaboodle I myself don't need to worry over. (Save HGE, which I'm not fully interested in, as of yet.)

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  • elandarkskyelandarksky Member Posts: 1,013 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    sandormen123 wrote: »
    Good question. I have two theories. First one, someone wants to be an a**-hat.
    Second theory; somewhere in all that cryptic coding (pun intended), it is programmed in such a non-global way, that A leads to B, then C, else FAIL. -when FAIL, we experience bugs.
    Aka. Bad programming.
    So... Combine theory 1 with theory 2; what do we get? =PWE...

    :o

    Anyone dare challenge my hypothesis?

    Sounds about right,

    Though i would alter point 1., to be 'someone wants you to waste 2x the dilithium to get what you want, thus being an a**-hat' :D
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  • assimilatedktarassimilatedktar Member Posts: 1,708 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    My main beef with the current system is that MACO seems to be a sniper set while honor guard is a melee set. I'm still unsure if honor guard is better than Omega there but it irks me that I have to grind for a sniper set to unlock a melee set.
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  • tobar26thtobar26th Member Posts: 799 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I suspect it's all to do with perceived rarity, a bit like drop box ships.

    We can all have it, but in universe they're meant to be uncommon, so that extra step makes it harder to get them.
  • elandarkskyelandarksky Member Posts: 1,013 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I suppose on the bright side, having to buy the intial maco/khg means you get a good armor/weapon set for a boff ..
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  • assimilatedktarassimilatedktar Member Posts: 1,708 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    tobar26th wrote: »
    I suspect it's all to do with perceived rarity, a bit like drop box ships.

    We can all have it, but in universe they're meant to be uncommon, so that extra step makes it harder to get them.

    But what's the point of perceived rarity if they get new costumes that look faction-appropriate? It's not like I could get my Fed Klingon captain such a nice uniform as D'Vak has. He would just look like a pretty normal MACO with a pretty silly double-barreled phaser shotgun/grenade thrower. Not comparable with flying a Galor, D'kora or Wells.
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  • born2bwild1born2bwild1 Member Posts: 1,329 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Because they want you to spend twice as much? Is that so hard to believe?
  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    because they wonted using them to be some sort of achievement, u need to farm full set 24 day+ or spend $+ time :) any way of two possible to get them is achievement
  • latinumbarlatinumbar Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    It feels like a double dip. On 1 of my KDF toons, I wanted Omega set. I did NOT want the honor guard set. But now if I want the set with MACO sets, I have to first buy a set I'm not going to use? How does that make sense?
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  • reconalpha1reconalpha1 Member Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Grind, grind, grind, grind until you cant click no more.

    :cool: It is the STO way Muahahahahaha

    :eek:
  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,163 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    sandormen123 wrote: »
    Good question. I have two theories. First one, someone wants to be an a**-hat.
    Second theory; somewhere in all that cryptic coding (pun intended), it is programmed in such a non-global way, that A leads to B, then C, else FAIL. -when FAIL, we experience bugs.
    Aka. Bad programming.
    So... Combine theory 1 with theory 2; what do we get? =PWE...

    :o

    Anyone dare challenge my hypothesis?

    I suspect A... leads to be B... leads to C... leads to A.


    A. Spend 35 days grinding to get access to the good gear.
    B. Purchase all the good gear to then get the newer gear.
    C. Do the next reputation tree.
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  • malkarrismalkarris Member Posts: 797 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    So, when you say buy, do you meean that youhave to buy the regular KHG or MACO sets with dilithium and marks, and then buy the adapted sets with more dilithium and marks? I was hoping that it could be a straight trade, you give up your MACO set for the adapted MACO set. So, anyone at T5 who can tell how it works?
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  • maddog0000doommaddog0000doom Member Posts: 1,017 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    latinumbar wrote: »
    It feels like a double dip. On 1 of my KDF toons, I wanted Omega set. I did NOT want the honor guard set. But now if I want the set with MACO sets, I have to first buy a set I'm not going to use? How does that make sense?

    its adapted how can u adapt something unless u have it to adapt make perfect sense to me
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  • latinumbarlatinumbar Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    malkarris wrote: »
    So, when you say buy, do you meean that youhave to buy the regular KHG or MACO sets with dilithium and marks, and then buy the adapted sets with more dilithium and marks? I was hoping that it could be a straight trade, you give up your MACO set for the adapted MACO set. So, anyone at T5 who can tell how it works?

    I am at T5 which is why I am complaining. On my toons that already have the MACO set, I can select the projects to buy the Adapted MACO set. On my toons that already have the Omega set, however, I do NOT have the same options. I only have the projects to get the regular MACO set. Granted, I am under the assumption that if I DID actually buy the MACO set on these toons, the Adapted set would unlock for me. This is an assumption that I am willing to 'test' by spending the marks and dilithium. And yes, the regular MACO set costs dilithium and marks, just as the Adapted sets do.
    maddog0000doom wrote: »
    its adapted how can u adapt something unless u have it to adapt make perfect sense to me

    The Adapted MACO for feds is simply the Klingon Honor guard set. What 'adapted' really means here is that the Honor Guard set is 'adapted' for use by Federation players.
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  • thisisoverlordthisisoverlord Member Posts: 949 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Lol when I saw you actually have to do a project to unlock the costumes on top of the item projects...

    I was like, time to quit this game.

    Seriously I will never have time to produce the amount of XP points and Dilithium required to acquire these items. As this is the ONLY end game content it makes the game worthless.

    Don't even know why I am even bothering to type this. :o
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  • latinumbarlatinumbar Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    thisisoverlord wrote: »
    Don't even know why I am even bothering to type this. :o

    Thanks for the thread bump. :)
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