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abaddon653abaddon653 Member Posts: 1,144 Arc User
Just a quick thought. I love the Gorn but am so disappointed that I can't play as a liberated Gorn and only have the option to play a Klingon. I was thinking that Cryptic could change the Liberated Borg from being a species to unlocking a slew of borg implants for all the races on each side, in addition the borg Traits would be unlocked and taking it changes your race to Liberated "insert species here" thus allowing you to attach the implants to your toon. Thoughts?
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,557 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Need a traits and/or species respec. I am certain that numerous players have some characters that they want to be assimilated, but don't want to reroll their character because they just got the lifetime subscription or they were limited to liberated borg humans or klingons. Might have to be some limitation like alien species are not allowed due to programming issues.
  • erraberrab Member Posts: 1,434 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Would most likely never happen due to the amount of remodeling it would require of Cryptic to get the Borg parts to show up properly on all the races.

    We've been asking for more Species options for the Liberated Borg since Launch and ................ well :rolleyes:
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  • darkstarkiriandarkstarkirian Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    errab wrote: »
    Would most likely never happen due to the amount of remodeling it would require of Cryptic to get the Borg parts to show up properly on all the races.

    We've been asking for more Species options for the Liberated Borg since Launch and ................ well :rolleyes:

    This^

    Now if the Sold them like the other "Special captains":
    Liberated Gorn
    Liberated Caitian
    etc

    each individually, maybe they would make their money back.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,557 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    If they do Liberated Borg for the main humanoid races like Vulcan, Andorian, Orion, Betazoid, etc. first, then they could take their time on the more difficult races. After all there is not much difference between humans and these other races. Orions are just green skinned humans as far as look goes. Betazoids have black eyes. Vulcans have different ears. The only difficult one in the list is Andorians because of their Antennae.
  • timpantstimpants Member Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    starkaos wrote: »
    If they do Liberated Borg for the main humanoid races like Vulcan, Andorian, Orion, Betazoid, etc. first, then they could take their time on the more difficult races. After all there is not much difference between humans and these other races. Orions are just green skinned humans as far as look goes. Betazoids have black eyes. Vulcans have different ears. The only difficult one in the list is Andorians because of their Antennae.

    Isn't one of the liberated borg contacts in GO an andorian? Maybe I'm misremembering but if so, they've already done the work there
  • darkstarkiriandarkstarkirian Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    starkaos wrote: »
    If they do Liberated Borg for the main humanoid races like Vulcan, Andorian, Orion, Betazoid, etc. first, then they could take their time on the more difficult races. After all there is not much difference between humans and these other races. Orions are just green skinned humans as far as look goes. Betazoids have black eyes. Vulcans have different ears. The only difficult one in the list is Andorians because of their Antennae.

    I'm pretty sure the Borg would just yank those out and install an XM radio. :D
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,557 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I'm pretty sure the Borg would just yank those out and install an XM radio. :D

    Oooh. Borg Antennae. They should definitely add that to Borg implants.
  • jexsamxjexsamx Member Posts: 2,804 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    So uh, yeah. Character/Costume art guys. If you, uh, have any free time for side projects, since I know they'll never schedule time for this.... yeah. Hint hint. Lib. Borg Gorn. Maybe some Lib. Borg Andorian.

    I'm just sayin'.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    the funny thing about this... is that I have 3 "Borg" characters. One is technically a Joined Trill, another is a Lib Borg human, the other is.... human..... Then there's my avatar. Emani is Lib Borg Klingon, but a foundry char, on tribble.
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  • novapolaris#2925 novapolaris Member Posts: 878 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    errab wrote: »
    Would most likely never happen due to the amount of remodeling it would require of Cryptic to get the Borg parts to show up properly on all the races.

    We've been asking for more Species options for the Liberated Borg since Launch and ................ well :rolleyes:

    Have you ever had a non-human/klingon character be assimilated by the Borg while fighting them? They've done the modeling. The parts show up even on Caitians. The only real problem I know of is getting Cryptic to put in the work to retrofit Liberated Borg to use the assets that they created for the assimilation debuff, so that they can allow more species to be Liberated Borg.
  • curs0rcurs0r Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    theoryfive wrote: »
    Have you ever had a non-human/klingon character be assimilated by the Borg while fighting them? They've done the modeling. The parts show up even on Caitians. The only real problem I know of is getting Cryptic to put in the work to retrofit Liberated Borg to use the assets that they created for the assimilation debuff, so that they can allow more species to be Liberated Borg.

    Good luck, I'm still hoping for a tactical android that was supposedly all but finished at one point.
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  • thegreendragoon1thegreendragoon1 Member Posts: 1,872 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I have a liberated Borg Caitian captain. The 7 of 9 costume pack offers up a few Borg parts to non-Borg species.
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Some races can't be assimilated in the first place
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  • zerobangzerobang Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    abaddon653 wrote: »
    Just a quick thought. I love the Gorn but am so disappointed that I can't play as a liberated Gorn and only have the option to play a Klingon. I was thinking that Cryptic could change the Liberated Borg from being a species to unlocking a slew of borg implants for all the races on each side, in addition the borg Traits would be unlocked and taking it changes your race to Liberated "insert species here" thus allowing you to attach the implants to your toon. Thoughts?

    sounds awesome

    sounds like lots of work

    sounds like nothing anybody would pay extra for, because we already paid for what we got

    no ROI -> will not happen

    ...unless after a Romulan and a Cardassian faction we should really get a Borg faction, then more Borg options would really be required.

    maybe in 10 years or so? (if this game still exists then)
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  • skonnskonn Member Posts: 141 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    sollvax wrote: »
    Some races can't be assimilated in the first place

    Name one other than the Undine (and even that's been changed by the game)
  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    There are some that won't like what I'm about to say, but why couldn't Cryptic make an Assimilation Pack offer in the C-store for those who bought the Lifetime subscription?

    So they could enhance existing races with more Borgish qualities, but at the same time have a downside like negative traits, so we don't see ESD and Qo'nos full of Borg Cats and such.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,557 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Only ways I can see it happening is getting a lifetime subscription will unlock costume options to implement Borg Implants and maybe Borg uniforms to use on any character or a respec to make current characters in the liberated borg race. It would be nice to have borg tubes coming out of a person's back and entering their arm or head instead of all the borg implants confined to the head and one hand implant that is only available on female Federation captains and bridge officers.
  • twg042370twg042370 Member Posts: 2,312 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    skonn wrote: »
    Name one other than the Undine (and even that's been changed by the game)

    There's nothing of it in canon either way, but I'd be surprised if they could assimilate a Founder or Q. And I doubt they could handle any of TOS' god beings.
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  • hiveman5hiveman5 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    If there is one topic that I can depend on to keep showing up in some shape or form its the Borg. A Borg Faction, not enough options for liberated Borg, they lack this, they lack that. Personally I think they should just have the Liberated Borg be an "alien" and leave it to the players to spec it how they want. The character creator tool in this game is so ridiculously huge in the amount of customization options that you can practically make whatever you want. Though I would like to see a 'faceless' option which doesn't exist.

    If they could add on thing... One thing to the liberated Borg, it would be the option to allow them to wear a Borg 'suit' or skin with exoplating, hoses, and stuff like that. Afterall they have the skins for it already, both new and old borg types. It wouldn't be hard to throw it in the character creator, but probably CBS, or PWE won't allow it, otherwise I think it would of been in there by now. JM2C.
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  • hiveman5hiveman5 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    ... Again.

    Liberated Borg is a Lifetime membership perk, NOBODY outside lifers can create a Liberated Borg Captain.

    What you are saying is what? they should never exist? its only a option for Lifetime Members that is a exclusive perk to them, same way ORIGINALLY the Borg Engineer Bridge Officer was a exclusive to certain stores pre-orders and the Collectors edition.

    What is the point of then doing what you are saying?




    Oh yes it would because those are not characters models, they are their own models with their own specific walking and attack animations, they are not meant or rigged to work as character models so you cannot use then and would be required to go back and rig then to work as character models.

    What you are saying is "well we have Targs in the game so can add them as parts to the character creator" since its the exact same situation.

    And again to the point, the Liberated Borg is a perk for Lifetime Members, one that is exclusive to then and one I dont think Cryptic would simply remove and made into Alien Parts or open to everyone and so invalidate one of the perks of being a Lifetime Member.

    And since the use of creating additional parts is so little for then because of the above circumstances its unlikely they ever will because they would making assents for a small minority of players that could be better used somewhere else.


    Your thinking too hard into this. I didn't say liberated Borg shouldn't exist or be open to everyone. It would still exist and still only be for LTS'ers. What I'm saying is that instead of being a specific species (say Human) it should just be a "Liberated Borg Alien" with the standard liberated Borg traits, along with whatever other traits the player wants to give them which I think is 2 additional traits after the 2 required are taken out. Also liberated Borg parts would only be useable on a Liberated Borg, which means... You'd have to be an LTS'er anyway, or have purchased the Borg Boff, but even here it would only unlock it for LTS'er with a Liberated Borg character.

    As to the skins not being useable to players is no offense a bunch of bull, Borg Boffs move, attack, and perform actions just like the player characters including the Borg Science Boff (which by the way would unlock that skin for LTS'ers with a liberated Borg character), it might be slightly limited, but nothing a couple weeks of fine tuning and slight redesign can't fix, and I can't imagine that it would be that resource intensive to do.

    But again any 'Borg' parts and costume pieces would be limited to LTS'ers only, no one else. So I'm not saying they should stop the perk. I didn't say that in the original post. I just didn't think it would require saying as it would be stating the obvious. Apparently I was wrong.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    skonn wrote: »
    Name one other than the Undine (and even that's been changed by the game)
    Well... I can think of a long list of sentient species they can't assimilate, BUT those aren't in the game. But of races that ARE in game? Pretty much all of them. The only exceptions being Tholians, Horta, and the Founders. ALL of the playable species could be assimilated.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    And it brings me back to the point, this is adding new parts for just a minority of players to use ... sure they could be used for Borg Bridge Officers but really this is a add-on for a small set of people that would not even pay for it.
    Enh... adding more perks for subscribers is always a good thing IMO.. :D
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