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flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
It may be that I'm not reading the information correctly, or that I'm not taking something into account here, but having been looking over the stats for the Chel Grett earlier, I've come to the conclusion that it pretty much powers over any other escort in the game, including those of the fleet variety.

The Breen Warship Stats:
Bridge Officers: Lt. Tactical, Cmd Tactical, Lt. Engineering, Lt. Cmd Science and Uni Ensign
Hull ~ 36000
Shield Modifier ~ 1.0
Crew ~ 360
Turn Rate ~ 13
Fore Weapons ~ x4
Aft Weapons ~ x4
Tactical Console Slots ~ x4
Engineering Console Slots ~ x3
Science Console Slots ~ x3
Device Slots ~ x3
Price ~ essentially free

The Fleet Patrol Escort:
Bridge Officers: Cmd Tactical, Lt. Cmd Tactical, Lt. Engineering, Lt. Science and Uni Ensign
Hull ~ 34100
Shield Modifier ~ 0.99
Crew ~ 200
Turn Rate ~ 16
Fore Weapons ~ x4
Aft Weapons ~ x3
Tactical Console Slots ~ x4
Engineering Console Slots ~ x4
Science Console Slots ~ x2
Device Slots ~ x2
Price ~ x4 Ship Modules and 20,000 Fleet Credits

Fleet Tactical Escort Retrofit (Defiant):
Bridge Officers: Cmd Tactical, Lt. Cmd Tactical, Ensign Tactical, Lt. Engineering, and Lt. Science
Hull ~ 33000
Shield Modifier ~ 0.9
Crew ~ 50
Turn Rate ~ 17
Fore Weapons ~ x4
Aft Weapons ~ x3
Tactical Console Slots ~ x5
Engineering Console Slots ~ x3
Science Console Slots ~ x2
Device Slots ~ x2
Price ~ x4 Ship Modules and 20,000 Fleet Credits

Fleet Advanced Escort (Prometheus):
Bridge Officers: Cmd Tactical, Lt. Tactical, Ensign Tactical, Lt. Engineering, and Lt. Cmd Science
Hull ~ 34100
Shield Modifier ~ 0.99
Crew ~ 150
Turn Rate ~ 16
Fore Weapons ~ x4
Aft Weapons ~ x3
Tactical Console Slots ~ x5
Engineering Console Slots ~ x2
Science Console Slots ~ x3
Device Slots ~ x2
Price ~ x4 Ship Modules and 20,000 Fleet Credits

Fleet Heavy Escort Carrier (Akira):
Bridge Officers: Cmd Tactical, Lt. Tactical, Ensign Tactical, Lt. Cmd Engineering, and Lt. Science
Hull ~ 35200
Shield Modifier ~ 0.99
Crew ~ 200
Turn Rate ~ 15
Fore Weapons ~ x4
Aft Weapons ~ x3
Tactical Console Slots ~ x4
Engineering Console Slots ~ x3
Science Console Slots ~ x3
Device Slots ~ x2
Price ~ x4 Ship Modules and 20,000 Fleet Credits

With the Breen vessel having the stats it does, I don't see any practical Tactical-favoring player the need to purchase any Fleet Escort. Compared (for what they can do) I'd say the Breen ship sits on top of them all quite comfortably. Short of the turn rate, and in some instances the hull, it's laughing at all the other escorts whilst being able to admirably do their job in the process.

I always assumed the Breen Chel Grett, along with the D'Kora and Galor (ect) were comparable to Your Lower Admiral ships, and thus not up to scratch with Fleet Ships. It seems I have been mistaken. I unlocked this ship earlier (finished off the purchase with Lobi) and was surprised to find the stats as they are.

Surely this isn't intended? If it was, then Cryptic are going to find themselves short of Fleet Escort sales over the coming months cause people, quite simply aren't going to need them.
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  • ocp001ocp001 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Lockbox style ships are and always have been, superior to every other ship.
  • born2bwild1born2bwild1 Member Posts: 1,329 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    flash525 wrote: »
    It may be that I'm not reading the information correctly, or that I'm not taking something into account here, but having been looking over the stats for the Chel Grett earlier, I've come to the conclusion that it pretty much powers over any other escort in the game, including those of the fleet variety.

    How does the boff layout compare?
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    ocp001 wrote: »
    Lockbox style ships are and always have been, superior to every other ship.
    I knew they were superior to the normal Tier 5 vessels, but I had always thought that the Fleet Ships were superior to the Lock Box ships.

    As we now have it, it seems that Starfleets most powerful vessels are all of alien (or future) design. How did this ever get passed off by CBS?
    How does the boff layout compare?
    Added. Sorry.
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  • zahinderzahinder Member Posts: 2,382 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Can the breen ship fit cannons?
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  • onenonlydrockonenonlydrock Member Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Turn rate isn't nearly as good either.
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  • idontcarenoforumidontcarenoforum Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    http://www.stowiki.org/Breen_Chel_Grett_Warship

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  • collegepark2151collegepark2151 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    My computer picked a really bad time to die. I guess I'll wallpaper my ready room with the 700 portraits I managed to collect.
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  • xantrisxantris Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    flash525 wrote: »
    I knew they were superior to the normal Tier 5 vessels, but I had always thought that the Fleet Ships were superior to the Lock Box ships.

    As we now have it, it seems that Starfleets most powerful vessels are all of alien (or future) design. How did this ever get passed off by CBS?

    You people complain about the damnedest things.
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    zahinder wrote: »
    Can the breen ship fit cannons?
    Yes it can.
    Turn rate isn't nearly as good either.
    Considering the turn rate it does have, and the weapon slots that go with it in addition to all the other specifications, the turn rate is as good as it needs to be.
    LT tac, Commander Tac, LT Engi, LT Com Sci, ensign Universal Slot
    My mistake. Edited. Thanks.
    My computer picked a really bad time to die. I guess I'll wallpaper my ready room with the 700 portraits I managed to collect.
    I'd hold on to them if I were you. Considering many people are likely going to have portraits left over (especially if they purchased any with Lobi) Cryptic have got to do something with the remaining ones, and another shot at the Breen Warship is bound to come up sooner or later. They've given 2nd (and I believe 3rd) chances for the Jem Hadar Attack Ship.
    xantris wrote: »
    You people complain about the damnedest things.
    Sure do. It's a valid point though. If this Federation ever wanted to win another war, they'd have to rely on alien starships and help from the future. Considering how reluctant CBS are about implementation of some items, I can't see their logic (save it being hypocrisy) in allowing this.
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    zahinder wrote: »
    Can the breen ship fit cannons?

    Yes, THIS is the battlecruiser I've been waiting for. I'll be imagining it with a D7 body and might buy a bridge pack just so it has a cool interior. There's NOTHING bad about this ship !!!
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  • xantrisxantris Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    flash525 wrote: »
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    Sure do. It's a valid point though. If this Federation ever wanted to win another war, they'd have to rely on alien starships and help from the future. Considering how reluctant CBS are about implementation of some items, I can't see their logic (save it being hypocrisy) in allowing this.

    This is a video game, and the power of individual ships in a video game in no way affects CBS or canon.
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    xantris wrote: »
    This is a video game, and the power of individual ships in a video game in no way affects CBS or canon.
    Actually, I'd have thought it would.

    Just as CBS have allowed the Constitution, but they wont allow a Fleet Constitution ~ they have decided at what 'level' the Constitution is allowed to be. If this in no way affects CBS, then Cryptic should be able to do what they want with the Constitution. It is CBS that wont allow it.

    ...not to rain on your parade or anything, but you've not quite thought that logic through. :rolleyes:
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    The way things are going...

    We may just see a T-5 Connine in some form by this time next year.

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  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    it is great ship but it is not better dps then fleet escorts they have 5 consoles while he have 4 and 5 weapon power less to ,my antiproton canons will do 100+ less dps per canon on full power lvl on breen ship then they do on my fleet defiant or fleet prometheus ,and dont forget defiant have stealth and prometheus is hard to kill as breen ship is
  • latinumbarlatinumbar Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Breen ship only has +10 weapon power. Escorts have +15. If you are specced for escorts as efficiently as possible, you may not have enough points in weapon performance to get you to +125 in the Breen ship, and you'll have to rely on some gear to get you there. Even a purple XII Plasma Distribution manifold will get you only +4 weapon power, not quite enough to make up the difference - which means you'll need 2 of them. It will be especially important to have max weapon power given the number of weapon slots it has, as the power drain will be significant if using cannons.

    Most of my toons are specced and gear so that I can run a weapon power of 125/95 with extra 5 placed into shield power. With the Breen ship, I will have to run 125/100. Might be worth the trade off, but not completely sure about that.
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  • doomiciledoomicile Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    She's not a bad ship by any means. It turns about as well as an Excelsior-R. Toss an RCS console in there and it's quite nice.

    I've been thinking about using the Jem Ha'daar set in it, once I get enough Dilithium together to get some decent Polaron DHC's and Turrets.

    One think I'd like to suggest to Cryptic is to include the Chel Grett among the JHAS and Galor that benefit from 'Victory Is Life' bonus from the Jem Set.
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    flash525 wrote: »
    Actually, I'd have thought it would.

    Just as CBS have allowed the Constitution, but they wont allow a Fleet Constitution ~ they have decided at what 'level' the Constitution is allowed to be. If this in no way affects CBS, then Cryptic should be able to do what they want with the Constitution. It is CBS that wont allow it.

    ...not to rain on your parade or anything, but you've not quite thought that logic through. :rolleyes:

    I think people overestimate CBS as "Keepers of the Faith" and underestimate CBS as "Keepers of the Licensing Machine."

    While the chronology issue is a partial rationale... and I recall hearing that they weren't necessarily happy with how common lockbox ships were... And had cold feet about a Connie at all.

    I'd urge people to consider this from another perspective.

    Cryptic is, from CBS' perspective, the "post-TNG online Star Trek game."

    As long as Cryptic sticks to that, CBS is more free to license OTHER online Star Trek games.

    I think that was part of the rationale behind them also licensing Infinite Space. This is the post-TNG game. That is the DS9 game.

    They're fine with homages to anything within the Star Trek brand here, a position that Decipher more or less pushed them and Paramount to as a licensee. (Decipher argued... in negotiations that I believe required lawyers on both sides... that "Trials on Tribble-ations" meant things like a TOS Connie were included with a DS9 license without having to acquire a TOS license. Paramount ultimately relented but insisted that the presence be minimal and restricted to what was seen in "Trials and Tribbleations." Effectively, a DS9 licensee could use Kirk but only as that guy Sisko met and talked about a few times.)

    A T5 Connie would cut into potential additional revenue from a TOS online game which could be licensed to another studio. An original Breen design would cut into prospects for another game licensee much less.

    The less it cuts in, the more tolerable it is. From that point, what becomes important is that it has a story rationale of SOME kind, to reinforce the value of the IP's lore and avoid confusion in branding. (Ie. CBS probably doesn't care so much that player Starfleet Captains have a Breen ship so much as that it's clearly identified as a non-Starfleet ship, which makes things like toy branding easier, by maintaining design standards that reinforce product labeling. They want consumers to recognize it as a ship which is not a standard Starfleet ship and which has Breen origins.)
  • logicalspocklogicalspock Member Posts: 836 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    flash525 wrote: »
    Sure do. It's a valid point though. If this Federation ever wanted to win another war, they'd have to rely on alien starships and help from the future. Considering how reluctant CBS are about implementation of some items, I can't see their logic (save it being hypocrisy) in allowing this.

    Here is my hypothesis. I freely admit I have no actual evidence to back it up, so take it for what it is worth.
    Once upon a time there was a company named Cryptic that got the license to rush a MMO based upon Star Trek into a commercial product. They hired a bunch of game devlopers, many who were die hard Star Trek nerds. The die hard Star Trek nerds at Cryptic worked with the die hard Star Trek nerds at CBS (keepers of the canon if you wish) to develop this into a product that "made sense" to trekkies.

    Then one day Cryptic was bought by this gaming company from China. They wanted to figure out how to make this game as profitable as possible, so they adopted a model that worked well in the East, a real money lottery for rare in-game items. Cryptic talked to CBS and they both agreed that a few Jem'Hadar ships would not hurt canon, after All Sisko flew one.

    Cryptic did not tell people that the odds were less than 1%. They did not tell players that the average cost of the ship was nearly $150. They did not tell players that on the order of 1 out of every 100 players could spend nearly $1000 and not win the lottery, because PWE had been running these lotteries in the East, and they knew better.

    The vast majority of players who logged on bought at least a few lottery tickets. Some spent over a thousand dollars in vain trying to aquire the ship. Some paid hundreds of dollars on paypal to trade with players who had won them. Cryptic probably made more money in that one month that it had in the past six.

    Cryptic was ecstatic. CBS was ecstatic. Does it make canon sense that half of starfleet will be flying around in a Breen ship or that you are doing STFs with Starfleet captains piloting ships designed for non-humanoid races? Of course not! But the money is way more important than canon.

    It is fait accompli and does not bother me anymore. I just don't see how Cryptic can use canon as an excuse anymore to disallow a T-5 constitution class ship. After all, it would make them a ton of cash and makes about as much sense as half of Starfleet being Tholian web weavers and Breen warships.
  • aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    flash525 wrote: »
    I knew they were superior to the normal Tier 5 vessels, but I had always thought that the Fleet Ships were superior to the Lock Box ships.

    Some can be on par , but the superior bit can be debated , as there is also the user playstyle & equipment that's in question .
    As we now have it, it seems that Starfleets most powerful vessels are all of alien (or future) design. How did this ever get passed off by CBS?

    Actually that's a bit incorrect .
    The Jem'Hadar Bug ship is at least 30+ years old design
    Same w/the Galor .
    I have no idea what the time-stamp / date is on this version of the Chel Garrett -- but per canon it could also be a 30+ year old ship .

    But if you think that's ridiculous , consider that in the first 2 years of the game , the King of Cruisers was the Excelsior ... , a ship from the 23rd century and something that was at least 100 years old .
    The same ship is soon to be a "contender" once more when it's T5 version gets released .

    Now tell me if that makes any sense ?

    As to CBS ... yeah , right , whatever , they are soooo involved .... . :rolleyes:

    But ... having said all that , from a player POV , I am glad that some of the "old molds" (Excelsior , Galaxy and others) get a "refit" in their T5 Fleet version to make them viable again (even as the poor Galaxy get's gimped again w/weak fire power) .

    In the end , STO stopped making sense on many fronts long ago .
  • knuhteb5knuhteb5 Member Posts: 1,831 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Here is my hypothesis. I freely admit I have no actual evidence to back it up, so take it for what it is worth.
    Once upon a time there was a company named Cryptic that got the license to rush a MMO based upon Star Trek into a commercial product. They hired a bunch of game devlopers, many who were die hard Star Trek nerds. The die hard Star Trek nerds at Cryptic worked with the die hard Star Trek nerds at CBS (keepers of the canon if you wish) to develop this into a product that "made sense" to trekkies.

    Then one day Cryptic was bought by this gaming company from China. They wanted to figure out how to make this game as profitable as possible, so they adopted a model that worked well in the East, a real money lottery for rare in-game items. Cryptic talked to CBS and they both agreed that a few Jem'Hadar ships would not hurt canon, after All Sisko flew one.

    Cryptic did not tell people that the odds were less than 1%. They did not tell players that the average cost of the ship was nearly $150. They did not tell players that on the order of 1 out of every 100 players could spend nearly $1000 and not win the lottery, because PWE had been running these lotteries in the East, and they knew better.

    The vast majority of players who logged on bought at least a few lottery tickets. Some spent over a thousand dollars in vain trying to aquire the ship. Some paid hundreds of dollars on paypal to trade with players who had won them. Cryptic probably made more money in that one month that it had in the past six.

    Cryptic was ecstatic. CBS was ecstatic. Does it make canon sense that half of starfleet will be flying around in a Breen ship or that you are doing STFs with Starfleet captains piloting ships designed for non-humanoid races? Of course not! But the money is way more important than canon.

    It is fait accompli and does not bother me anymore. I just don't see how Cryptic can use canon as an excuse anymore to disallow a T-5 constitution class ship. After all, it would make them a ton of cash and makes about as much sense as half of Starfleet being Tholian web weavers and Breen warships.

    This 100%. The cbs must protect canon argument has gone, no, been kicked out the door with tons of fed players running around in galors, d?koras, tholian ships, mirror universe ships, galors, and now breen ships. It just sounds like a giant farce at this point. This is as far from canon as anybody could have possibly imagined.
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    aelfwin1 wrote: »

    As to CBS ... yeah , right , whatever , they are soooo involved .... . :rolleyes:

    Again, I think they are, somewhat.

    But they are viewing things not in terms of keeping the canon (nor is Cryptic) but in terms of marketing the toyline.

    CBS' concern would not be people flying Breen ships but people confusing Breen ships for Starfleet designs, which would create brand confusion.

    CBS is probably also interested in licensing multiple Star Trek MMOs, given what we saw with Infinite Space, and so is probably likely to approve things that would not make that difficult and reject things that would make that difficult.

    Probably the easiest two other licenses they could sell would be Dominion Wars themed (and they had one floating out there with Infinite Space) and TOS themed.

    The T1 Connie does less to make it difficult for CBS to sell a TOS MMO license to another studio. A T5 version would make it more difficult. CBS probably wants to keep it in the background here so as not to conflict with making more licensing money from other game studios who would pay them to release a TOS game.

    That doesn't mean the game gets made. It means CBS can make money off the option, basically, and nobody would want the option if TOS is too well represented here.
  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Wouldn't it be nice if cryptic let us costume our new cruiser with skins from other ships we already own ?
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  • chahk42chahk42 Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I'm kind of disappointed that Chel Grett doesn't come with a unique bridge. The Tholian ship has one, so why not Breen?
  • trellabortrellabor Member Posts: 209 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Here is my hypothesis. I freely admit I have no actual evidence to back it up, so take it for what it is worth.
    Once upon a time there was a company named Cryptic that got the license to rush a MMO based upon Star Trek into a commercial product. They hired a bunch of game devlopers, many who were die hard Star Trek nerds. The die hard Star Trek nerds at Cryptic worked with the die hard Star Trek nerds at CBS (keepers of the canon if you wish) to develop this into a product that "made sense" to trekkies.

    *Lots of other good stuff thats a very long post so i put this instead, no disrespect*

    While I can agree with some of this, I can tell you from experience this game uses a highly Americanized version of a cash shop for MMO games. 'Eastern' versions of F2P games don't use the 'free cool boxes as drops which require u to spend real money to open' model. Not ****, Not GW, Not Hellgate, not any that I can think of. APB is close, however that's also an Americanized game with the same style cash shop as STO which dare I say it, borderlines on Pay to Win. They WANT you to spend all your money buying DIL/ZEN thats why everything you want now costs freaking DIL, Fleet gear, now STF gear, Rommie gear, all of it. Yet stil we get limited to 8k per day, think about it. What other MMO has this many ridiculous currencies? It's a 'fast-food MMO', not a 'fine dining Multiplayer Experience'.

    Anyways, /endrant.....but yeah, when I came back to this game from **** and seeing their F2P model I was sorely disappointed at the flamboyant nature of STO's cash shop striking me as 'Pay to Win' and their constant behest to purchase ZEN and convert it to DIL so you can buy things. I realize it's not 'required' to do this, but neither is playing to begin with....it's just 'highly suggested' frequently and often. CBS wants revenue long-term, no other motivational factor is detrimental to them. They'll give you a D'Deridex in 6 months if it fits their fiscal calendar nicely.
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  • tetonicatetonica Member Posts: 142 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    chahk42 wrote: »
    I'm kind of disappointed that Chel Grett doesn't come with a unique bridge. The Tholian ship has one, so why not Breen?

    It's a free ship and not from a lockbox ;)
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  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    chahk42 wrote: »
    I'm kind of disappointed that Chel Grett doesn't come with a unique bridge. The Tholian ship has one, so why not Breen?

    Developer resources cost money. This one doesn't earn money directly (lobi store sales some, and encouraging new players is indirect) so it got fewer resources allocated than the lock box ship.
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    The flipside to no interior is, I assume, that we can actually use our other interiors, including purchased ones. No other lockbox ship ALLOWS that, nor do they allow using interiors from Lockbox ships in other ships we own.

    I'd much rather interiors:
    - Include a three deck layout. Which wouldn't be all that hard aside from the Tholian ships. Every other ship has an interior that would at least work as a reasonable template.
    - Included interiors as options but still let us pick.


    And I can't think of any MMOs that have fewer currencies than STO, aside from maybe EvE. More currencies is better once you're at endgame, IMHO. I wish there were a thousand of them. I don't get the multi-currency hate as long as currencies aren't using inventory space, which they aren't here. Hundreds or thousands of currencies is not unheard of in a typical MMO. The only thing odd here is how FEW there are.
  • ussultimatumussultimatum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I don't get the multi-currency hate as long as currencies aren't using inventory space, which they aren't here.


    1) The hate comes from the developer culling currencies, telling you there are too many and they want fewer.

    2) Those with high amounts lose in the conversion process.

    3) Not too long later new currencies continue to be added.

    4) See #1.
  • tribbleorlfltribbleorlfl Member Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    doomicile wrote: »
    She's not a bad ship by any means. It turns about as well as an Excelsior-R. Toss an RCS console in there and it's quite nice.

    I've been thinking about using the Jem Ha'daar set in it, once I get enough Dilithium together to get some decent Polaron DHC's and Turrets.

    One think I'd like to suggest to Cryptic is to include the Chel Grett among the JHAS and Galor that benefit from 'Victory Is Life' bonus from the Jem Set.

    Or better yet, add a bonus of some sort when the Breen space set is equipped on a Breen ship. For RP purposes, I'd love to equip the Breen set, but it would be a waste of a good ship to equip the set as it currently is.

    I wonder if the Deferi will be the next race getting a reputation system, with the opportunity to grind purple mk xii versions of the breen set.
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Or better yet, add a bonus of some sort when the Breen space set is equipped on a Breen ship. For RP purposes, I'd love to equip the Breen set, but it would be a waste of a good ship to equip the set as it currently is.

    I wonder if the Deferi will be the next race getting a reputation system, with the opportunity to grind purple mk xii versions of the breen set.

    My vague recollection of dev interviews seem to suggest that Deferi are high on the list of candidates for rep.

    Although I kinda think with the Deferi focus on balance, their rep system should be more... Interesting.

    So say you have, I dunno...

    Klingon and Fed rep. Gaining one costs the other but at an uneven rate.

    Gaining Deferi rep comes from balancing the two.
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