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dovazaandovazaan Member Posts: 7 Arc User
Hello everybody!

I am currently in the process of Coming back after a very long hiatus (stopped playing just Before Free to Play)

Having some trouble making my mind up on which Side to play and im hoping you guys can help me out!

I originaly played a Science Captain to level 50, Federation side. all of the Things i have previously bought in the C-Store were for fed (Delta Flyer, NX Class, Bellerophon skin etc etc etc)

Since a lot has changed Im going to be deleting my Toon and 'starting again' Just to get the feel for the game again.

Currently what is Each side 'like' in terms of Player's/RP community (Yes, I intend to RP) I remember when I was playing A lot of the RP was on Fed Side and most of the Skill was on KDF side. Is this still the same? Also, What are KDF ships like compared to Fed's in the terms of Abilities. e.g as Science i Flew an Intrepid Retrofit which had the 'Deploy Armor' Ablity. Is there anything like that on KDF side?


Ultimately I dont think It will matter too much what side i go in terms of how much fun i'll have, I love Trek, Maybe the Feds slightly better than the klingon's Because of Voyager and only that haha.

Also, Finally, What is the RP Like (if you are an RPer) for Fed/KDF is it all Drinking blood wine and shouting for Klingon's?

Thanks.
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  • th3xr34p3rth3xr34p3r Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    In my opinion, its best to play both sides as its more fun that way. but I recommend KDF first then Fed since your returning and already have a level 50. Once your done with a KDF toon then start a fed (I don't recomend deleting the old toon as yet since you might regret it at a later point in time once you have gotten used to the game again.)

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  • curs0rcurs0r Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I tend to lean toward Fed because the KDF interface is a bit hard on my eyes. KDF is enjoyable though. There are some interesting missions.
    I'll sell you some weapons from New Romulus. Never fired, only dropped once.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,557 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    There are rumors that Season 8 will have a ton of KDF only content so that might be a reason to do a Fed first, then do a KDF when Season 8 comes out.
  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I would use my KDF more if the UI wasn't so terrible. So I use my Fed 90% of the time.
  • curs0rcurs0r Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    starkaos wrote: »
    There are rumors that Season 8 will have a ton of KDF only content so that might be a reason to do a Fed first, then do a KDF when Season 8 comes out.

    I would bear the rumor part of that statement strongly in mind. Don't build up a large expectation, it will almost always lead to disappointment. Whatever they do add to the KDF I think it will be well received, unless they give them the Romulan treatment and have our KDF players out chasing bunnies full-time.
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  • dovazaandovazaan Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Thank you all for your quick responses! :)
    I would use my KDF more if the UI wasn't so terrible. So I use my Fed 90% of the time.

    Is it still that horrible 'everything is red' one? I really wasnt a fan of it back then.
  • curs0rcurs0r Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    It is. Quite red indeed.
    I'll sell you some weapons from New Romulus. Never fired, only dropped once.
  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    dovazaan wrote: »
    Is it still that horrible 'everything is red' one? I really wasnt a fan of it back then.

    Yes indeed. And if it isn't red, it's red-orange. :P

    So yeah. KDF is a lot of fun, but that UI leaves quite a few things to be desired.
  • skyranger1414skyranger1414 Member Posts: 1,785 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Hmmm, I think the answer will depend on what you want to fly and what kind of captain you fancy yourself as. The generally accepted state of things is that Starfleet has better escorts while the KDF has better cruisers. Of course "better" is subjective and is usually a less opinion sounding version of "more fun".

    If you intend to fly a Sci Vessel..... I dunno, not much experience on those but I will say the KDF has curernt access to fleet Vo'Quvs.... the posterchild for big, slow, Sci heavy carriers while Starfleet tends to favor smaller, nimbler sci ships. It could be argued the Starfleet Wells Sci Vessel with its escort-like turn radius is the epitome of the nimbler/faster philosophy.
  • duaths1duaths1 Member Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I know nothing on RP, but as far as SKILL goes, there are fleets dedicated to PVP and skill on both sides. On the red side, there are just more :)


    I have been in the same situation as you are now. Had a maxed sci fed toon, came back after a break, started a sci KDF, fell in love with the red mechanics. Now i have 9 KDF's, 3 FED's. (FED's are only used for the NADORC DOFF mission)

    The KDF only Episodes are FUN! You have to see it!

    All KDF Zen Store ships have nice abilities/consoles.. there is also the BOP, with undedicated BOFF slots.
    So if you fancy SCI (like me), you can have 2 TAC's and 2 SCI's and totally abandon ENG.
    And it DOES work :)

    i would NOT delete a 50 toon - you'll need it for doffing and acquiring EC/Dillithium.

    just buy yourself 2 slots and start new FED and KDF. Then, decide.

    KDF uniforms - now with the 2 new costumes you really CAN make a toon look good also on kdf side.

    we have these options:
    - the normal uniforms
    - the veteran rewards
    - the set costumes
    - Korath uniform
    - Winter Jackets (look awesome) and boots
    - academy bundle (eh - not worth it, but a nice belt)
    - TOS uniform from the TOS bundle
    - 2 female skirts from LOBI store
  • stark2kstark2k Member Posts: 1,467 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    dovazaan wrote: »
    Hello everybody!

    I am currently in the process of Coming back after a very long hiatus (stopped playing just Before Free to Play)

    Having some trouble making my mind up on which Side to play and im hoping you guys can help me out!

    I originaly played a Science Captain to level 50, Federation side. all of the Things i have previously bought in the C-Store were for fed (Delta Flyer, NX Class, Bellerophon skin etc etc etc)

    Since a lot has changed Im going to be deleting my Toon and 'starting again' Just to get the feel for the game again.

    Currently what is Each side 'like' in terms of Player's/RP community (Yes, I intend to RP) I remember when I was playing A lot of the RP was on Fed Side and most of the Skill was on KDF side. Is this still the same? Also, What are KDF ships like compared to Fed's in the terms of Abilities. e.g as Science i Flew an Intrepid Retrofit which had the 'Deploy Armor' Ablity. Is there anything like that on KDF side?


    Ultimately I dont think It will matter too much what side i go in terms of how much fun i'll have, I love Trek, Maybe the Feds slightly better than the klingon's Because of Voyager and only that haha.

    Also, Finally, What is the RP Like (if you are an RPer) for Fed/KDF is it all Drinking blood wine and shouting for Klingon's?

    Thanks.

    In regards to RP'n, then I recommend this Fleet for you -> " League of Extraordinary Captains " They are by far RP heavy and one of the best at what they do.

    In regards to preference:

    I have to recommend the Federation, simply because there is plenty to do on that side of the playing field.

    Unfortunately; The Faction that I do love (KDF) is still content starve with its main focus on a poor PvP system, if it exist at all anymore.

    It is rumored that Season 8 will be giving the KDF a major facelift - so perhaps maybe starting a KDF toon may be a good choice. It is rumored that as a KDF you might be playing as a Bekk and moving up the ranks ala Fed Faction.

    I sincerely hope that is the case - One of the primary reason why people play Fed is solely for the fact that aside from content, KDF unlocks at around Fed Rank 25. Unlocking the KDF soo late in gameplay will leave the KDF player starve.

    KDF needs to be a choice straight out the bat.
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  • robeasomrobeasom Member Posts: 1,911 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    My advice is create two toons.
    I split my game time between my MU fed character
    and my KDF warrior
    Both are Lvl 50 and depending on what kind of captain you are.
    I use a science captian for the fed
    and a tactical build for my KDF as I prefer a bit of strategy fighting in a B'rel.

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  • age03age03 Member Posts: 1,664 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I would use my KDF more if the UI wasn't so terrible. So I use my Fed 90% of the time.

    I guess you never played Starfleet Command Klink.


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  • maddog0000doommaddog0000doom Member Posts: 1,017 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    KDF has better players and is alot more enjoyable to play.

    but since cryptic refuse to make a equal faction and have stated serval times that they are not making new kdf ships cus its more bang for buck to make fed ships.

    your better off to play feds even tho kdf is better. bang for buck
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  • zerobangzerobang Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    imho FED and KDF are about the same as soon as you hit lvl 50

    FED has a lot more Endgame Ships and Clothing options, simply because Fed stuff sells better.

    As KDF you don't even have to play a Klingon, you can play Gorn, Orion or Nausicaan and they have their own (all C-Store) Ships now.


    And if you previously played a SCI captain, i would suggest TAC or ENG now, imho those are both way more fun and less wizzard-ish to play.
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  • duaths1duaths1 Member Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    zerobang wrote: »
    And if you previously played a SCI captain, i would suggest TAC or ENG now, imho those are both way more fun and less wizzard-ish to play.

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  • dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    First off, I'd recommend investing in at least the +2 character slots option instead of a delete/reroll, as the long term Fed "main" most likely has a fistful of accolades that can't be reproduced...

    On that note, if you do want to try KDF Sci, keep in mind that outside of the Birds of Prey with universal BOff seating, there are no "dedicated" free Science ships (like Nova, Olympus, Luna, etc.) in the KDF shipyards, though the Gorn ships in the C-store are definitely on a par with the Fed ones. I got my KDF Sci the Captain-level C-store Gorn Science ship, and fell in love with it, it's console, the Aceton Assimilator, drains power from all hostiles in it's range (5km or so) and uses it (along with incoming energy weapons fire) to spew forth radiation spheres that do a fair amount of damage and is nifty for clearing out pet spam...
    Detecting big-time "anti-old-school" bias here. NX? Lobi. TOS/TMP Connie? Super-promotion-box. (aka the two hardest ways to get ships) Excelsior & all 3 TNG "big hero" ships? C-Store. Please Equalize...

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  • lostusthornlostusthorn Member Posts: 844
    edited December 2012
    I would say KDf, first because its plain fun. All the killing and shooting just fits their theme, unlike Feds, Second, its fun, and a different play style from what yu already experienced on Fed side. And third, its the underdog faction. The more players it gets the better Cryptics support for it will become. Joining the KDf will help shaping the game in the future.
  • thestargazethestargaze Member Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I wish they would fix the terrible UI .. even at FED and not just KDF.
    It should be universal black or dark blue.. something sleek.. Then who you are (fraction) should really be all about your character.
  • zahinderzahinder Member Posts: 2,382 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    My main character is a KDF. Which means I'm constantly felt like the unwanted stepchild. They don't think I deserve more, though they feel VERY EARNESTLY for my plight. I get less of everything -- KDF has 1/5 the clothing options of Federation (mercenary outfits are Fed only. Seriously, wtf?), way less story content, most content is geared toward Federation even when it's rebranded as KDF.

    In short, playing KDF will TRIBBLE you off constantly.


    If you really are on the fence, go Federation; you'll have a much happier play experience, and you'll be the welcome guest at the table.
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  • admiraljt#1430 admiraljt Member Posts: 452 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Roll a KDF Tactical and fly a Bird of Prey. It's the polar opposite of a Fed scientist.

    As to the UI, I will say that when I first started playing the KDF the Red was a bit hard on my eyes, due to the stark contrast to the softer blue. BBut now that I've played it a while going back to the blue is awkward, It doesn't seem to stand out from the everything else on the screen.
  • dovazaandovazaan Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Hello Again Everybody!

    Thank you all for your reply's, Im still patching the 6.4gb's :P I've been looking over the ships and must say the B'Rel looks interesting. Still Unsure as what to make Science/Enginer/Tactical though I must say i loved Photonic Fleet, and will probably make another Science captain.

    some of you Say the KDF content is very Lacking. Does that include the Leveling Content? are there some epic moments in the KDF 'story'? Or for sheer leveling content and story should i stick with the Federation?

    Thanks.
  • elderdrake123elderdrake123 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    dovazaan wrote: »
    ...
    some of you Say the KDF content is very Lacking. Does that include the Leveling Content? are there some epic moments in the KDF 'story'? Or for sheer leveling content and story should i stick with the Federation?

    Thanks.

    There are a couple off cool Klingon Episodes and I found a quick listing if you want to spoil yourself quick with the layout:
    Link

    I myself first started with a 50 Fed Sci and then went next to a KDF Tac and I am now about to make up an Fed(?, might go KDF again) Eng. I would say I had a lot more fun with my KDF toon overall. The Federation is all diplomatic, peace keepers....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. KDF is all about blowing things up, honor, getting drunk, and crushing their opponents. Lots of fond memories too when rolling around in a BoP and cloaking in combat. Fed side has a lot more content but I don't care, I have too much fun with my Klink.
  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    If you like Star Trek and know that the shows are based on the federation the answer is simple: Klingon.
    Feds don't go around comitting genocide day after day.


    Also, playing the KDF is alot cheaper. You don't have shiney's-of-the-week (ships and such) since cryptic doesn't really want kdf money.

    Play as a warlike kdf and pretend starfleet is going about doing things the way it should.
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  • lostusthornlostusthorn Member Posts: 844
    edited December 2012
    dovazaan wrote: »
    Hello Again Everybody!

    Thank you all for your reply's, Im still patching the 6.4gb's :P I've been looking over the ships and must say the B'Rel looks interesting. Still Unsure as what to make Science/Enginer/Tactical though I must say i loved Photonic Fleet, and will probably make another Science captain.

    some of you Say the KDF content is very Lacking. Does that include the Leveling Content? are there some epic moments in the KDF 'story'? Or for sheer leveling content and story should i stick with the Federation?

    Thanks.

    The few KDF specific missions are all about epic, they out epic everything else in the game by far. Plus they are well written and engaging.
  • dovazaandovazaan Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    The few KDF specific missions are all about epic, they out epic everything else in the game by far. Plus they are well written and engaging.

    This makes my decision harder now xD The only thing really gripping me to Fed Side is the amount of C-Store things i've Purchased... I guess they will always be there if i decide to go back to fed. Although I think for now I'll make a Fed toon and wait til season 8 for KDF.
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