Due to the fact i hardly see any premade vs premade running so often, I would like to create this thread for anyone and any fleet who wants to challenge each other, and can do so planned.
So fill in when your fleet can attend and what rules you want in place.
Right now I can say TSI needs several premades. We require many many fleets willing for fun and growth, and cause we have stuff to test out. Please post time and what rules enforced.
Please please, dont be discouraged. We just want fun, and its not so much to ask for.
Co-founder of The Spanish Inquisition TSI - Cause no one expects it!
PaxOttomana: gawd mirror event is like fighting a tsi premade, they keep comin and comin!
Indeed there are not as many premades around as there were before season 7.
TRH plays against the remaining premades on a somewhat regular basis. In the last 2 weeks we played against:
- Angry Clowns
- Raumpatroille Elysion
- Nova Core
- TSI
Unfortunately you wont see much of Pandas and Show Me Your Critz these days which is sad...
However TRH is in a position to host awesome internal matches. Sometimes we do 2 or 3 "high level" matches per night. So, whoever is interested participating in fun and clean matches is cordially invited to join our Teamspeak
Sadly we don't have a premade at the moment. Every time I try and pick up some PVP talent to blend into our existing ones, another fleet that will remain nameless takes them. *shrugs*
We'd have a proper premade, but not enough people.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] @Aquitaine985 Lag Industries STO PvP Fleet - Executive
A Sad Panda of Industrial calibre. 2010: This is Cryptic PvP. Please hold the line, your call is very important to us...
Sadly we don't have a premade at the moment. Every time I try and pick up some PVP talent to blend into our existing ones, another fleet that will remain nameless takes them. *shrugs*
We'd have a proper premade, but not enough people.
Yeah, headhunting seems to be an issue right now, doesn't it? Poor form "nameless" fleet, poor form.
We just got decimated by a russian fleet which had a very interesting setup, something which really defined what russian is: Quantity! (aka spammed to death). Danubes, tholian fighters and it looked like all of them were running the romulan hyper plasma torpedo along with elite fleet gear from the starbase store. On top of that blend in a regular use of scramble sensors and every conceivable p2w universal console in the game. A UI nightmare.
Well, I admit we had a horrible setup (5 sci captains) which lacked dps overall and total breakdown in coms. So we could have done much better. Still, they won, and one can discuss how "cheesy" and "cheap" it was. But to be damn honest they just did what I have been advocating for a long time: Use everything availble in the game to win, and let no one demand or say what you cannot do or use.
Kudos.
edit: Those fleet elite shields have an insane resistance!!!
Co-founder of The Spanish Inquisition TSI - Cause no one expects it!
PaxOttomana: gawd mirror event is like fighting a tsi premade, they keep comin and comin!
But to be damn honest they just did what I have been advocating for a long time: Use everything availble in the game to win, and let no one demand or say what you cannot do or use.
This philosophy is what destroys PVP in this game in the first place.
We just got decimated by a russian fleet which had a very interesting setup, something which really defined what russian is: Quantity! (aka spammed to death). Danubes, tholian fighters and it looked like all of them were running the romulan hyper plasma torpedo along with elite fleet gear from the starbase store. On top of that blend in a regular use of scramble sensors and every conceivable p2w universal console in the game. A UI nightmare.
Well, I admit we had a horrible setup (5 sci captains) which lacked dps overall and total breakdown in coms. So we could have done much better. Still, they won, and one can discuss how "cheesy" and "cheap" it was. But to be damn honest they just did what I have been advocating for a long time: Use everything availble in the game to win, and let no one demand or say what you cannot do or use.
Kudos.
edit: Those fleet elite shields have an insane resistance!!!
You guys need to challenge them to a rematch. This time, use Kinetic builds. TBR and Transphasic spreads will take care of a lot of those problems.
We just got decimated by a russian fleet which had a very interesting setup, something which really defined what russian is: Quantity! (aka spammed to death). Danubes, tholian fighters and it looked like all of them were running the romulan hyper plasma torpedo along with elite fleet gear from the starbase store. On top of that blend in a regular use of scramble sensors and every conceivable p2w universal console in the game. A UI nightmare.
that sounds horrable! it really is nice that so many simply refuse to use that stuff, and pvp hasent been uterly killed by it. i'd forgoten how bad it could potentualy be with whats out there to use now.
i figure that elite fleet shield, with like resA, would have between 20-40 resistance on some energy types at all times, sound about right?
that sounds horrable! it really is nice that so many simply refuse to use that stuff, and pvp hasent been uterly killed by it. i'd forgoten how bad it could potentualy be with whats out there to use now.
i figure that elite fleet shield, with like resA, would have between 20-40 resistance on some energy types at all times, sound about right?
20-40?? Try up to 60 or more with assosicated skills.
Co-founder of The Spanish Inquisition TSI - Cause no one expects it!
PaxOttomana: gawd mirror event is like fighting a tsi premade, they keep comin and comin!
I've only seen a few of theses Russians and they didn't seem very interesting, but then it wasn't anymore then two at any given time.
Dev, you guys should be able to beat any current premades without resorting to cheese, you have the players to do that. Don't resort to their level of play in order to win.
You can put a jigsaw together, and it might take you a long time but you'll do it.
-or-
You can put a jigsaw together, and use a hammer to just bash random pieces together until it's finished, it wont look as good, as it doesn't make a picture, by damn does it use all the pieces.
TSI has a growing assumption about it that cheese is a given in order to win. Why give into that? At least Tripwire's building bridges on the part of Nova Core and it's questionable tactics. So I'm sure you guys are more then capable of bringing some A-Game that doesn't leave a nasty taste afterwards. ;D
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] @Aquitaine985 Lag Industries STO PvP Fleet - Executive
A Sad Panda of Industrial calibre. 2010: This is Cryptic PvP. Please hold the line, your call is very important to us...
I've only seen a few of theses Russians and they didn't seem very interesting, but then it wasn't anymore then two at any given time.
Dev, you guys should be able to beat any current premades without resorting to cheese, you have the players to do that. Don't resort to their level of play in order to win.
You can put a jigsaw together, and it might take you a long time but you'll do it.
-or-
You can put a jigsaw together, and use a hammer to just bash random pieces together until it's finished, it wont look as good, as it doesn't make a picture, by damn does it use all the pieces.
TSI has a growing assumption about it that cheese is a given in order to win. Why give into that? At least Tripwire's building bridges on the part of Nova Core and it's questionable tactics. So I'm sure you guys are more then capable of bringing some A-Game that doesn't leave a nasty taste afterwards. ;D
Who the heck said were resorting to cheapness and cheesy stuff? Im just pointing out an observation, despite what i have advocated before. Aaaaaaaaand i want more premade matches running, sir!
Co-founder of The Spanish Inquisition TSI - Cause no one expects it!
PaxOttomana: gawd mirror event is like fighting a tsi premade, they keep comin and comin!
We just got decimated by a russian fleet which had a very interesting setup, something which really defined what russian is: Quantity! (aka spammed to death). Danubes, tholian fighters and it looked like all of them were running the romulan hyper plasma torpedo along with elite fleet gear from the starbase store. On top of that blend in a regular use of scramble sensors and every conceivable p2w universal console in the game. A UI nightmare.
Well, I admit we had a horrible setup (5 sci captains) which lacked dps overall and total breakdown in coms. So we could have done much better. Still, they won, and one can discuss how "cheesy" and "cheap" it was. But to be damn honest they just did what I have been advocating for a long time: Use everything availble in the game to win, and let no one demand or say what you cannot do or use.
Kudos.
edit: Those fleet elite shields have an insane resistance!!!
What happened to us yesturday, is our fleet pugmade were destroyed by another pugmade with huge amount of spam of advanced scorpion fighters which spawn double amount, mines, etc etc. We did have one aceton launcher and one gravity well but that wasn't enough. It was the days of glorious spam from s4-s5, i cant remember anymore. I didnt even know that was possible, tbh. What happened next is this: Thinking that they will que again, we changed our toons, put some spam in it, and rolled two pugs and one premade, in next 3 matches. Got bad words from a last premade, and i knew exactly how they felt, cos we felt like that 30 mins ago. We weren't gloating. This kind of action only hurts pvp. IF u want to try spam setups (or any other stuff in game), contact the team u want in to fight in advance, tell them what u want to try.
On topic, i would like to add House of Oversized V@ginae, khm, House of beautiful Orions (as one of the few KDF fleets that actually do PVP regularly) , to premade list, since we finally got our team speak up and working, even tho we still dont have full premade team, but we need good matches. PM @IvanTom, and state your conditions. Also, match can be scheduled couple of days in front, so we can get players online.
Of course, in fleet of 500+ members I hope you realize that no one can be held responsible what people use outside of arranged matches, where at least 50 players from our fleet have every item available/power/tier in game, with almost finished starbase system. We could easily make at least 3 teams as that Russian fleet. Luckily those guys hardly pvp.
Good games, and see ya in que.
[10:49] [Combat (Self)] Your Proton Barrage deals 96581 (43411) Proton(Critical) to Seto.
Poor soul didnt have time to log out.
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TRH plays against the remaining premades on a somewhat regular basis. In the last 2 weeks we played against:
- Angry Clowns
- Raumpatroille Elysion
- Nova Core
- TSI
Unfortunately you wont see much of Pandas and Show Me Your Critz these days which is sad...
However TRH is in a position to host awesome internal matches. Sometimes we do 2 or 3 "high level" matches per night. So, whoever is interested participating in fun and clean matches is cordially invited to join our Teamspeak
We'd have a proper premade, but not enough people.
@Aquitaine985
Lag Industries STO PvP Fleet - Executive
A Sad Panda of Industrial calibre.
2010: This is Cryptic PvP. Please hold the line, your call is very important to us...
Yeah, headhunting seems to be an issue right now, doesn't it? Poor form "nameless" fleet, poor form.
we ran into a russian fleet.
they burned us all to death O_O
Do you even Science Bro?
Well, I admit we had a horrible setup (5 sci captains) which lacked dps overall and total breakdown in coms. So we could have done much better. Still, they won, and one can discuss how "cheesy" and "cheap" it was. But to be damn honest they just did what I have been advocating for a long time: Use everything availble in the game to win, and let no one demand or say what you cannot do or use.
Kudos.
edit: Those fleet elite shields have an insane resistance!!!
PaxOttomana: gawd mirror event is like fighting a tsi premade, they keep comin and comin!
2 Recluses, 1 Vesta, Gravity Wells, the new Viral Matrix DOFFS, all Phased Polaron Beams, and SPAM SPAM SPAM...
Yeah my pugmade lost but so what? I wasn't really bothered by it. Do you think for a minute these russians are good or skilfull players?
What the russians are currently running can be described as a "trolling" setup. A setup that does not require one inch of skill.
I believe a good premade (with a clean setup) should be able to beat them.
This philosophy is what destroys PVP in this game in the first place.
too bad that a good clean setup wouldnt be able to scratch those shields
Do you even Science Bro?
My pugmade was able to score 4 or 5 kills with focusing fire despite their fleet shields.
But I agree their fleet shields helped their survivability a lot :rolleyes:
It's terrible but easy, and these Borg are way cooler than the mess STO and Voyager left us.
You guys need to challenge them to a rematch. This time, use Kinetic builds. TBR and Transphasic spreads will take care of a lot of those problems.
that sounds horrable! it really is nice that so many simply refuse to use that stuff, and pvp hasent been uterly killed by it. i'd forgoten how bad it could potentualy be with whats out there to use now.
i figure that elite fleet shield, with like resA, would have between 20-40 resistance on some energy types at all times, sound about right?
20-40?? Try up to 60 or more with assosicated skills.
PaxOttomana: gawd mirror event is like fighting a tsi premade, they keep comin and comin!
i meant on their own, with no energy level of ability effecting them :eek:
Dev, you guys should be able to beat any current premades without resorting to cheese, you have the players to do that. Don't resort to their level of play in order to win.
You can put a jigsaw together, and it might take you a long time but you'll do it.
-or-
You can put a jigsaw together, and use a hammer to just bash random pieces together until it's finished, it wont look as good, as it doesn't make a picture, by damn does it use all the pieces.
TSI has a growing assumption about it that cheese is a given in order to win. Why give into that? At least Tripwire's building bridges on the part of Nova Core and it's questionable tactics. So I'm sure you guys are more then capable of bringing some A-Game that doesn't leave a nasty taste afterwards. ;D
@Aquitaine985
Lag Industries STO PvP Fleet - Executive
A Sad Panda of Industrial calibre.
2010: This is Cryptic PvP. Please hold the line, your call is very important to us...
Who the heck said were resorting to cheapness and cheesy stuff? Im just pointing out an observation, despite what i have advocated before. Aaaaaaaaand i want more premade matches running, sir!
PaxOttomana: gawd mirror event is like fighting a tsi premade, they keep comin and comin!
What happened to us yesturday, is our fleet pugmade were destroyed by another pugmade with huge amount of spam of advanced scorpion fighters which spawn double amount, mines, etc etc. We did have one aceton launcher and one gravity well but that wasn't enough. It was the days of glorious spam from s4-s5, i cant remember anymore. I didnt even know that was possible, tbh. What happened next is this: Thinking that they will que again, we changed our toons, put some spam in it, and rolled two pugs and one premade, in next 3 matches. Got bad words from a last premade, and i knew exactly how they felt, cos we felt like that 30 mins ago. We weren't gloating. This kind of action only hurts pvp. IF u want to try spam setups (or any other stuff in game), contact the team u want in to fight in advance, tell them what u want to try.
On topic, i would like to add House of Oversized V@ginae, khm, House of beautiful Orions (as one of the few KDF fleets that actually do PVP regularly) , to premade list, since we finally got our team speak up and working, even tho we still dont have full premade team, but we need good matches. PM @IvanTom, and state your conditions. Also, match can be scheduled couple of days in front, so we can get players online.
Of course, in fleet of 500+ members I hope you realize that no one can be held responsible what people use outside of arranged matches, where at least 50 players from our fleet have every item available/power/tier in game, with almost finished starbase system. We could easily make at least 3 teams as that Russian fleet. Luckily those guys hardly pvp.
Good games, and see ya in que.
Poor soul didnt have time to log out.