Personnel Officer Requirements a Bad Joke

hfmudd

The starbase project to place a Personnel Officer on board requires no less than 30 white bridge officer candidates, ten from each branch. (They also all have to be human, for some reason (specist!), but that's a relatively minor quibble.)

Here's the thing:
Common white BOffs are, paradoxically, hard for anyone but new characters to come by. The Duty Officer assignments to interview new candidates, even if deliberately failed, have a minimum level of green. I am sitting on a mailbox full of nigh-worthless blue officers - literally over a hundred in total, which I have saved in the vain hope that they may someday be good for something - each of which sells on the glutted exchange for perhaps 200 EC. White BOffs go for a hundred times that, due to their rarity and the need for them for this project, when they can be found at all.

(Oh yes, almost forgot, you can also get them at the ESD vendor... for 240 dilithium a pop. Ugh. Not so much compared to the rest of the starbase dilithium grind, but PWE forbid we get anything without spending Dil on it.)

Please review this requirement and allow us to submit bridge officer candidates of any quality, not just the "common" but actually quite rare (unless you happen to be leveling and/or farming a new character) whites.

mimey2

To be honest, I actually found when they were required purples to be a better way of doing it than the whites, just because you could get em totally for free, and there is that massive glut of purples in the first place, making them usually not very expensive because of it.

pennyprimrose

You do know you can grind higher quality ones down to white. 1 purple = 3 blue = 9 green = 27 whites

pennyprimrose

Also, you can buy white ones from your starbase for very little in the way of fleet credits.

dabelgrave

It would be nice if they removed the Dilithium cost, but I don't expect that to happen. However, you get more for your Dilithium this way than if you contributed it directly.

240 Dilithium = 1 Common boff = 1,250 Fleet Credit
or
240 Dilthium = 240 Fleet Credit

darkjeff

pennyprimrose wrote: »

You do know you can grind higher quality ones down to white. 1 purple = 3 blue = 9 green = 27 whites

You can do that with Bridge Officers?

markhawkman

pennyprimrose wrote: »

You do know you can grind higher quality ones down to white. 1 purple = 3 blue = 9 green = 27 whites

that's Doffs. Boffs can be bought in mass from the boff vendor at ESD or Qonos.

spacepenguin121

hfmudd wrote: »

The starbase project to place a Personnel Officer on board requires no less than 30 white bridge officer candidates, ten from each branch. (They also all have to be human, for some reason (specist!), but that's a relatively minor quibble.)

Here's the thing:
Common white BOffs are, paradoxically, hard for anyone but new characters to come by. The Duty Officer assignments to interview new candidates, even if deliberately failed, have a minimum level of green. I am sitting on a mailbox full of nigh-worthless blue officers - literally over a hundred in total, which I have saved in the vain hope that they may someday be good for something - each of which sells on the glutted exchange for perhaps 200 EC. White BOffs go for a hundred times that, due to their rarity and the need for them for this project, when they can be found at all.

(Oh yes, almost forgot, you can also get them at the ESD vendor... for 240 dilithium a pop. Ugh. Not so much compared to the rest of the starbase dilithium grind, but PWE forbid we get anything without spending Dil on it.)

Please review this requirement and allow us to submit bridge officer candidates of any quality, not just the "common" but actually quite rare (unless you happen to be leveling and/or farming a new character) whites.

Yea, its pretty silly that "common" BOffs are the rarest ones in game. While I like that the projects requiring DOffs only require common, it was kind of annoying to see common BOffs required for this project. That said, I'm glad they finally got around to fixing it so you could submit BOffs to the project again since that was bugged for around a month, after which I didn't care so much about what type of BOff it took so much as getting the thing done.

pennyprimrose wrote: »

You do know you can grind higher quality ones down to white. 1 purple = 3 blue = 9 green = 27 whites

You do know that the upgrade project in question requires BOffs, not DOffs...:rolleyes:

pennyprimrose

darkjeff wrote: »

You can do that with Bridge Officers?

My bad, I misread. It's still early here. Doffs can be grinded up and down. Boffs though, as the OP said can be dificult to get white quality ones.

recksracer

hfmudd wrote: »

The starbase project to place a Personnel Officer on board requires no less than 30 white bridge officer candidates, ten from each branch. (They also all have to be human, for some reason (specist!), but that's a relatively minor quibble.)

Here's the thing:
Common white BOffs are, paradoxically, hard for anyone but new characters to come by. The Duty Officer assignments to interview new candidates, even if deliberately failed, have a minimum level of green. I am sitting on a mailbox full of nigh-worthless blue officers - literally over a hundred in total, which I have saved in the vain hope that they may someday be good for something - each of which sells on the glutted exchange for perhaps 200 EC. White BOffs go for a hundred times that, due to their rarity and the need for them for this project, when they can be found at all.

(Oh yes, almost forgot, you can also get them at the ESD vendor... for 240 dilithium a pop. Ugh. Not so much compared to the rest of the starbase dilithium grind, but PWE forbid we get anything without spending Dil on it.)

Please review this requirement and allow us to submit bridge officer candidates of any quality, not just the "common" but actually quite rare (unless you happen to be leveling and/or farming a new character) whites.

Whites are for sale at the boff vendor.

Stupid complaint is stupid.

bortjinx

recksracer wrote: »

Whites are for sale at the boff vendor.

Stupid complaint is stupid.

Well, I see someone needs to learn how to read. OP mentions this in his post, but I suppose you were too busy enjoying the thought of trolling someone to actually read the post. Or was is just too difficult for you to make out all those long words? :P

recksracer

bortjinx wrote: »

Well, I see someone needs to learn how to read. OP mentions this in his post, but I suppose you were too busy enjoying the thought of trolling someone to actually read the post. Or was is just too difficult for you to make out all those long words? :P

I stand by my statement...

Stupid complaint is stupid.

It would only cost 3600 dil if you had zero withe boffs to start with.

Actually maybe i SHOULD change my statement to " Horribly stupid complaint is horribly pointless and stupid.

bortjinx

Ok, maybe you need to add to your maths skills too...

240 x 30 = 7200.

I'll agree with you that it isn't that much, especially when paid for by multiple members of a fleet, but if you are in a small fleet and trying to take advantage of the special project reruns, then I'd also object to spending dilithium on something as basic as common boffs.

recksracer

bortjinx wrote: »

Ok, maybe you need to add to your maths skills too...

240 x 30 = 7200.

I'll agree with you that it isn't that much, especially when paid for by multiple members of a fleet, but if you are in a small fleet and trying to take advantage of the special project reruns, then I'd also object to spending dilithium on something as basic as common boffs.

If youre going to crack on me about my numbers, maybe you should get yours right...

3600 fills one slot and there are 3 slots to fill...

Calling the need to have 10k ish dil a bad joke when other projects cost 200k is just off base.

This whole thread is pointless and the op's complaint is just dumb.

bortjinx

recksracer wrote: »

If youre going to crack on me about my numbers, maybe you should get yours right...

3600 fills one slot and there are 3 slots to fill...

Calling the need to have 10k ish dil a bad joke when other projects cost 200k is just off base.

This whole thread is pointless and the op's complaint is just dumb.

I'm not in-game, so can't check that the OPs numbers are correct, but that is where I'm taking the numbes from. Here:

hfmudd wrote: »

The starbase project to place a Personnel Officer on board requires no less than 30 white bridge officer candidates, ten from each branch. (They also all have to be human, for some reason (specist!), but that's a relatively minor quibble.)

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(Oh yes, almost forgot, you can also get them at the ESD vendor... for 240 dilithium a pop. Ugh. Not so much compared to the rest of the starbase dilithium grind, but PWE forbid we get anything without spending Dil on it.)

30 White Boffs, at 240 Dil each = 30 x 240 = 7200.

And like I said, when you are trying to complete those older special projects that take up so much of your Dilthium, when you only have a limited time to get the ones you are missing finished before they disappear again, then spending almost a day's worth of Dil grinding on Boffs (which used to cost a tiny amount of EC) is something I'd not be too happy about either.

If you think the OP's complaint is dumb, why don't you offer to help him resolve it? I mean, those Boffs aren't bound, so you could go and buy them for him since it sounds like you have no problems throwing your Dil at stuff you should be able to buy with EC.

I mean, these are the basic of basic Bridge Officers. Every new player needs Boffs. Not every new player has Dilithium, nor knows how to get Dilithium. now do you see the reason I don't like paying Dil for white Boffs?

dariusmajere

bortjinx wrote: »

I'm not in-game, so can't check that the OPs numbers are correct, but that is where I'm taking the numbes from. Here:




30 White Boffs, at 240 Dil each = 30 x 240 = 7200.

And like I said, when you are trying to complete those older special projects that take up so much of your Dilthium, when you only have a limited time to get the ones you are missing finished before they disappear again, then spending almost a day's worth of Dil grinding on Boffs (which used to cost a tiny amount of EC) is something I'd not be too happy about either.

If you think the OP's complaint is dumb, why don't you offer to help him resolve it? I mean, those Boffs aren't bound, so you could go and buy them for him since it sounds like you have no problems throwing your Dil at stuff you should be able to buy with EC.

I mean, these are the basic of basic Bridge Officers. Every new player needs Boffs. Not every new player has Dilithium, nor knows how to get Dilithium. now do you see the reason I don't like paying Dil for white Boffs?

New Players should Not be right away making a Starbase and forming a fleet and getting involved in one of the most Intensive parts of the game right away, Just like they shouldn't be jumping right into Elites. 30 White Boffs was not hard to do at all. I Solo'd it. Play The Game and you get all you need.

warpangel

If you can get your starbase to tier 3 (required to start this project), you can afford 7200 dilithium for boffs. Enough said.

hfmudd

Certainly I can (and ended up doing just that), but wouldn't it be nice to actually be able to use my vast stockpile of blue-quality BOffs for something? Can't even grind 'em down for dilithium, so it's put them in storage or sell them for pennies on the Exchange...

I was thrilled, absolutely thrilled, when I saw this project on the starbase screen and thought that I could finally put some thirty of them to use - that doing all of those "Evaluate" assignments and keeping the results rather than simply discarding them was finally going to be worth it. And then, not five minutes later, I was cursing as I realized the bitter joke that had been played on me.