From now until 10am PST on Thursday, December 27th, we are having a 15% off sale on Master Keys. Also, for a limited time only, we are running a special Lock Box promotion. Read more for full details.
I know these don't effect normal loot drops, but do they effect each other?
What I mean is, Do I have less of a chance to get a Temporal Lockbox now that all of them are dropping or are the drop rates independent of each other?
Jem'Hadar Attack Ship was never in a lockbox. It was originally in the Winter boxes from last year. It has been made available several times since in Duty Officer pack promotions, one of which ended recently.
Jem'Hadar Attack Ship was never in a lockbox. It was originally in the Winter boxes from last year. It has been made available several times since in Duty Officer pack promotions, one of which ended recently.
Whats your point? This was the perfect chance to make a JemHadar lockbox and get more money. It would have taken the art guy 30 mins to copy/paste and existing lockbox design and slap a jemhadar logo on the side and in that same 30 mins a programmer could have copypasted the loot table and mucked around with what the lockbox would give out.
From now until 10am PST on Thursday, December 27th, we are having a 15% off sale on Master Keys. Also, for a limited time only, we are running a special Lock Box promotion. Read more for full details.
I know you can't/don't tell us when a sale is upcoming, but geez I just bought a ten pack yesterday.
So to all of you who waited till today to buy keys... You're welcome. :cool:
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Please enable us to buy a token with Zen to faction change a 25th Century FED to a TOS FED.
It's been 4+ Lobi per Lock Box since the Tholian Lock Box. They upped the minimum for the old Ferengi Lock Box during the last "old Boxes" promo. And, actually, if you check a bunch of the drop parsing that's been done by other players, the average drop amount seems to actually be around 5 Lobi.
You may be confusing this promo with the Doff promo packs which offer more Lobi because the pack itself costs more (275 Z vs 125 Z).
once this is done, watch us get a Cryo Lockbox....
seriously, if anyone else paid attention to the wording about the Chel Grett's console, it states, quite clearly "...can be slotted on any Breen ships."
any, as in more than one, and ships, also as in more than one.....next lockbox, is Cryo
Whats your point? This was the perfect chance to make a JemHadar lockbox and get more money. It would have taken the art guy 30 mins to copy/paste and existing lockbox design and slap a jemhadar logo on the side and in that same 30 mins a programmer could have copypasted the loot table and mucked around with what the lockbox would give out.
The point is it was never offered up in a lockbox, and Cryptic isn't obligated to provide one for it just because you want it.
The point is it was never offered up in a lockbox, and Cryptic isn't obligated to provide one for it just because you want it.
Again... it would equal more money with a minimal time investment. Everything they could put in the box already exists. Offer it in a lock box now... I bet lots of people would buy keys to get one... Why is that so hard to fathom? Just because it wasnt before doesnt mean it cant be now.
And I never said they were obligated. But its a no brainer from the corporate "make more money" standpoint.
I feel bad for you guys, but if they'd done this a week earlier, it would be the people two weeks ago who weren't happy about it.
It's just luck of the draw, and unfortunately, you guys were unlucky.
On a slightly different note, could anyone enlighten me as to the current chances of receiving the Galor through a Cardassian lock box. What are the odds? I've spend some money specifically on lock boxes before (all four of them) yet I've never received a single ship out of any of them.
I've currently got about 75k in Dilithium across two characters that I could trade in for Zen and get myself a 10-pack or two, though I'd only spend this on a Cardassian Lock box cause the Galor Boff setup is the only one I'd currently put money into. Question is, 1) Is it worth the exchange (Dilithium > Zen) or should I forget it and buy something else with the Dilithium. 2) What are the odds of getting that Galor now? If I recall, upon their first release they were very rare, though as time went on, their rarity became somewhat more common.
once this is done, watch us get a Cryo Lockbox....
seriously, if anyone else paid attention to the wording about the Chel Grett's console, it states, quite clearly "...can be slotted on any Breen ships."
any, as in more than one, and ships, also as in more than one.....next lockbox, is Cryo
That was actually pointed out by numerous people the day the specs for the Chell Gret were posted.
Join date is wrong, I've actually been around since STO Beta.
True alters don't have a "main". Account wide unlocks for all unique event rewards!!
once this is done, watch us get a Cryo Lockbox....
seriously, if anyone else paid attention to the wording about the Chel Grett's console, it states, quite clearly "...can be slotted on any Breen ships."
any, as in more than one, and ships, also as in more than one.....next lockbox, is Cryo
or it was worded that way for if they introduce a shuttle, or way on down the line another breen ship.
Yes this thread is gonna be about how bad lockbox's are! if you don't like that don't read and move on to other threads !!
Today i'v bought 30keys "cus of the promo" so give or take thats 3k zen witch is 30euro's for me, is about same in dollar or might even be 35 dollar. anyways i open'd 30 box's do you really want to know what i get from them ?! i open'd "green text Ferengi lockbox's" cus i wanted that ferengi ship.!
142 lobi crystals
8 small Doff packs (norm)
3 small Gamma Doffs packs
4 Ferengi consort Doffs
7 Ground armor/deflector packs (1 blue item in side the box)
2 "1k xp Bonus"
1 "2k xp Bonus"
1 "10k xp bonus"
2 ferengi special Doff assignments
Now impressive list eh for 35Bucks or 30Euro's, "[{#@|"
i start to wonder, the lobi crystal shop, if you want something good from that you need 300 upto 800 crystals... really that's aprox 175 dollar and you have 800 lobi to buy a "Ship" seriously, 60-70 dollar for a ship console ?! what the heck Cryptic. This game should have a casino license cus the box's are a form of gambling!! no way, that list of rewards i got is in noway worth 35dollar.! you should be ashamed to make to good stuff drop rate so low! i know you guys need revenue to keep this game going but seriously there other ways to do it! you just made an enemy out of a lifetimer, i won't spent a cent towards your game.
i have no words for it, either you put the rate of drop into the info box, so that players that buy keys and open a box can see how freaking low the good stuff drop rate really is. or you just take away the lame TRIBBLE box & keys and put the ships and goodies from the box into the freaking C-Store! for fok sake Cryptic i spent 30Euro's on TRIBBLE, nice XMAS for me eh!
witch brings me to my second frustration, its clear that in noway someone like me can get all the winter event items!! with out buying the items or event drops, you keep to amaze me that making a good event lays not within your skills!! you somehow fok it up! that aside is a small frustration i have, no real game braking fact! i can live with that fact! but the lockbox's no that's "Exploitation" of the Star Trek Fan Base and you should be ashamed for it. put all in c-store and i will happily buy them all but true lockbox's and a "Chance" on ships LOL no way in hell i spent one more dollar at any item in your C-Store as long as the lockbox remains in the game.
Ps: i know alot of you are gonna respond with laming reply's, i urge you NOT to do it, if you don't have a constructive reply then don't reply at all thanks. i really want a god to honest reply of all the players that have bought keys and open'd box's, reall all i want is there input.
If you want just the ship, and trash everything else in the box, it works out to close to $300 in keys.
Unlike Katniss, the odds really aren't ever in your favour.
the box should be illegal, ain't there gambling laws broken here? the box chance is a form of gambling right? anyways i'm never gonna buy zen, i em gonna buy the keys with zen tho, zen i made from ingame dill conversion, cus don't get me wrong here there is absolute nothing wrong with the game it self !!! i like the game, but spending real money on it is a thing of the past as long as the keys and box remain ingame.
not sure i'll use the key's this time, i'll probably sell them for Creds to finally buy the darn ferengi ship! but god 70+mill creds is oh my god will i take for ever to get that
Sooooo, if some one here feels the urge to make my XMAS good again, you can always donate "any" amount of Credits.
give me a mail (Citra@noxsa) with a date and place to meet "sadly one can't send credits and trading is req". hey just a thought i know there is alot of unspent creds out there i might as well get a nice xmas god willing. cus the taste of 30euro's flushed down the toilet is bitter.
I gave up on lock boxes after I realised I'd spent more than 300 (GBP) on keys and not once gotten a ship, from any of the various boxes. It's a total rip off. In future, I'm going to buy unbound items I know sell well on the exchange and buy a ship from the exchange, at least that way I know it's guaranteed and how much it's costing up front.
Join date is wrong, I've actually been around since STO Beta.
True alters don't have a "main". Account wide unlocks for all unique event rewards!!
the box should be illegal, ain't there gambling laws broken here? the box chance is a form of gambling right? anyways i'm never gonna buy zen, i em gonna buy the keys with zen tho, zen i made from ingame dill conversion, cus don't get me wrong here there is absolute nothing wrong with the game it self !!! i like the game, but spending real money on it is a thing of the past as long as the keys and box remain ingame.
not sure i'll use the key's this time, i'll probably sell them for Creds to finally buy the darn ferengi ship! but god 70+mill creds is oh my god will i take for ever to get that
Sooooo, if some one here feels the urge to make my XMAS good again, you can always donate "any" amount of Credits.
give me a mail (Citra@noxsa) with a date and place to meet "sadly one can't send credits and trading is req". hey just a thought i know there is alot of unspent creds out there i might as well get a nice xmas god willing. cus the taste of 30euro's flushed down the toilet is bitter.
Dude, that ship sailed, went to warp, and crashed into a local sun right about the time that lockboxes started appearing in game.
Sure people threaten legal action and complain that "laws are being broken" when their instant gratification isn't fulfilled, but this is, what, almost a year now, four different boxes later, and lockboxes aren't going away....
Dude, that ship sailed, went to warp, and crashed into a local sun right about the time that lockboxes started appearing in game.
Sure people threaten legal action and complain that "laws are being broken" when their instant gratification isn't fulfilled, but this is, what, almost a year now, four different boxes later, and lockboxes aren't going away....
yea i know the box's exist for a long time in game, i see constant text flooting by my screen, name won bla bla ship, so i never thought the rewards wer crapy, so with this key action i thought to my self, why not buy 30 keys and try my luck, well turns out if your NOT lucky then the rest rewards are TRIBBLE, yes they have a value and not there not worth 30euro's so yea lockbox's are a RIPOFF, why can't cryptic add the ships to there C-Store like every other ship they added to the store!, reason here is there GREEDY and love to EXPLOIT lesser minded FANS! well i can say it was my first AND last time i spent money on zen for keys!! Cryptic can kiss my Butt! this fan is smart to NOT make the same stupid mistake twice. so i'll use my Lifetime zen on keys, and probably will sell them on exchange, or i need some cool device from the lobi store, then i will use the key my self, atleast i know i get min 4 lobi. anyways i know the box's won't go but i really hope more people will see the evil in them box's and then eventually they will be taken out, sadly there alot of lesser minded players out there with deep pockets.
yea i know the box's exist for a long time in game, i see constant text flooting by my screen, name won bla bla ship, so i never thought the rewards wer crapy, so with this key action i thought to my self, why not buy 30 keys and try my luck, well turns out if your NOT lucky then the rest rewards are TRIBBLE, yes they have a value and not there not worth 30euro's so yea lockbox's are a RIPOFF, why can't cryptic add the ships to there C-Store like every other ship they added to the store!, reason here is there GREEDY and love to EXPLOIT lesser minded FANS! well i can say it was my first AND last time i spent money on zen for keys!! Cryptic can kiss my Butt! this fan is smart to NOT make the same stupid mistake twice. so i'll use my Lifetime zen on keys, and probably will sell them on exchange, or i need some cool device from the lobi store, then i will use the key my self, atleast i know i get min 4 lobi. anyways i know the box's won't go but i really hope more people will see the evil in them box's and then eventually they will be taken out, sadly there alot of lesser minded players out there with deep pockets.
As said in every other "why can't they add X ship to the Z-store instead of a lockbox" argument: CBS won't allow it. Lockboxes are the only way that Cryptic can guarantee their (relative) rarity and everyone and their brother won't be flying around in one.
I've bought a whopping three keys since I've started playing, when I've had one of those "what the hell, why not" moments. But I don't spend 30 bucks or more on lockboxes unless I have that much to spare, and I'm informed enough to know that my chances are still rare...besides, there are things in the Z-store more worth that kind of money (to me, anyway).
I don't get people whinging about not receiving the ultimate prize on a box that had low odds anyway. It was YOUR choice to spend the money. Not satisfied? Stop spending the money.
Best thought (as I did yesterday) buy keys off the exchange. That way, you're only using up energy credits (rather than Zen/Dilithium) and once your out of energy credits, you aren't 'tempted' to buy more (cause you literally can't). I bought five keys with energy credits yesterday, across two accounts. I've two keys left (first three boxes gave me the equivalent of nothing). I would really like a Galor Cruiser, but I'm not spending more money on random chance as I did when these boxes first came around. Nomore.
I dont agree with the time the sale ends. I live here on the Eastern Seaboard and many of us dont get paid until the very same time game has maintence done to it, at 10am, and cant access ANYTHING excpet the forum for the next 2 hours. How is it fair for those who live on the eastern seaboard who want to do last minute key shopping, myself included because i have at least 400 lock boxes in my inventory, when we cant access the zen store until the game is finished being worked on? If there is maintance being done the 27th are we still going to be allowed to access the "zen shop?"
I also agree with previous notions that the EC economy is all fracked up. People are just to bloody greedy. I mean placing something that shouldnt cost more than a 50,000 EC as 900,000,000 EC?! Who the hell has that much?! If you truly want to get rid of your items that you dont want give them a reasonable price. People starting off should NOT have to pay nearly 2 million EC for a GD lockbox key or example given 900,000,000 for a rare starship or console. Its prices like that, that ruin the game for those who are new because it sets an imposible goal for them to reach, and by the time they reach 9 out of 10 times the item they wanted is gone or the price has been increased.
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What I mean is, Do I have less of a chance to get a Temporal Lockbox now that all of them are dropping or are the drop rates independent of each other?
Jem'Hadar Attack Ship was never in a lockbox. It was originally in the Winter boxes from last year. It has been made available several times since in Duty Officer pack promotions, one of which ended recently.
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Does this sale make it unlikely that there'll be a general Christmas sale?
I hope there will be, could do with a general/costume sale. There was a ship sale (excluding the Vestas) not too long ago though IIRC.
Cryptic, let me put it to you this way... do you want my money this Christmas, or do you want Steam to have it? Ball's in your court :P
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Whats your point? This was the perfect chance to make a JemHadar lockbox and get more money. It would have taken the art guy 30 mins to copy/paste and existing lockbox design and slap a jemhadar logo on the side and in that same 30 mins a programmer could have copypasted the loot table and mucked around with what the lockbox would give out.
I know you can't/don't tell us when a sale is upcoming, but geez I just bought a ten pack yesterday.
So to all of you who waited till today to buy keys... You're welcome. :cool:
Please enable us to buy a token with Zen to faction change a 25th Century FED to a TOS FED.
Heh, actually I brought a ten pack yesterday as well. Still, what can you do?
It's been 4+ Lobi per Lock Box since the Tholian Lock Box. They upped the minimum for the old Ferengi Lock Box during the last "old Boxes" promo. And, actually, if you check a bunch of the drop parsing that's been done by other players, the average drop amount seems to actually be around 5 Lobi.
You may be confusing this promo with the Doff promo packs which offer more Lobi because the pack itself costs more (275 Z vs 125 Z).
seriously, if anyone else paid attention to the wording about the Chel Grett's console, it states, quite clearly "...can be slotted on any Breen ships."
any, as in more than one, and ships, also as in more than one.....next lockbox, is Cryo
The point is it was never offered up in a lockbox, and Cryptic isn't obligated to provide one for it just because you want it.
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Again... it would equal more money with a minimal time investment. Everything they could put in the box already exists. Offer it in a lock box now... I bet lots of people would buy keys to get one... Why is that so hard to fathom? Just because it wasnt before doesnt mean it cant be now.
And I never said they were obligated. But its a no brainer from the corporate "make more money" standpoint.
It's just luck of the draw, and unfortunately, you guys were unlucky.
On a slightly different note, could anyone enlighten me as to the current chances of receiving the Galor through a Cardassian lock box. What are the odds? I've spend some money specifically on lock boxes before (all four of them) yet I've never received a single ship out of any of them.
I've currently got about 75k in Dilithium across two characters that I could trade in for Zen and get myself a 10-pack or two, though I'd only spend this on a Cardassian Lock box cause the Galor Boff setup is the only one I'd currently put money into. Question is, 1) Is it worth the exchange (Dilithium > Zen) or should I forget it and buy something else with the Dilithium. 2) What are the odds of getting that Galor now? If I recall, upon their first release they were very rare, though as time went on, their rarity became somewhat more common.
That was actually pointed out by numerous people the day the specs for the Chell Gret were posted.
or it was worded that way for if they introduce a shuttle, or way on down the line another breen ship.
"cover all the bases just in case" mentalitiy
Do you even Science Bro?
Today i'v bought 30keys "cus of the promo" so give or take thats 3k zen witch is 30euro's for me, is about same in dollar or might even be 35 dollar. anyways i open'd 30 box's do you really want to know what i get from them ?! i open'd "green text Ferengi lockbox's" cus i wanted that ferengi ship.!
142 lobi crystals
8 small Doff packs (norm)
3 small Gamma Doffs packs
4 Ferengi consort Doffs
7 Ground armor/deflector packs (1 blue item in side the box)
2 "1k xp Bonus"
1 "2k xp Bonus"
1 "10k xp bonus"
2 ferengi special Doff assignments
Now impressive list eh for 35Bucks or 30Euro's, "[{#@|"
i start to wonder, the lobi crystal shop, if you want something good from that you need 300 upto 800 crystals... really that's aprox 175 dollar and you have 800 lobi to buy a "Ship" seriously, 60-70 dollar for a ship console ?! what the heck Cryptic. This game should have a casino license cus the box's are a form of gambling!! no way, that list of rewards i got is in noway worth 35dollar.! you should be ashamed to make to good stuff drop rate so low!
i have no words for it, either you put the rate of drop into the info box, so that players that buy keys and open a box can see how freaking low the good stuff drop rate really is. or you just take away the lame TRIBBLE box & keys and put the ships and goodies from the box into the freaking C-Store! for fok sake Cryptic i spent 30Euro's on TRIBBLE, nice XMAS for me eh!
witch brings me to my second frustration, its clear that in noway someone like me can get all the winter event items!! with out buying the items or event drops, you keep to amaze me that making a good event lays not within your skills!! you somehow fok it up! that aside is a small frustration i have, no real game braking fact! i can live with that fact! but the lockbox's no that's "Exploitation" of the Star Trek Fan Base and you should be ashamed for it. put all in c-store and i will happily buy them all but true lockbox's and a "Chance" on ships LOL no way in hell i spent one more dollar at any item in your C-Store as long as the lockbox remains in the game.
Ps: i know alot of you are gonna respond with laming reply's, i urge you NOT to do it, if you don't have a constructive reply then don't reply at all thanks. i really want a god to honest reply of all the players that have bought keys and open'd box's, reall all i want is there input.
Unlike Katniss, the odds really aren't ever in your favour.
the box should be illegal, ain't there gambling laws broken here? the box chance is a form of gambling right? anyways i'm never gonna buy zen, i em gonna buy the keys with zen tho, zen i made from ingame dill conversion, cus don't get me wrong here there is absolute nothing wrong with the game it self !!! i like the game, but spending real money on it is a thing of the past as long as the keys and box remain ingame.
not sure i'll use the key's this time, i'll probably sell them for Creds to finally buy the darn ferengi ship! but god 70+mill creds is oh my god will i take for ever to get that
Sooooo, if some one here feels the urge to make my XMAS good again, you can always donate "any" amount of Credits.
give me a mail (Citra@noxsa) with a date and place to meet "sadly one can't send credits and trading is req". hey just a thought i know there is alot of unspent creds out there
sell what you don't want
Dude, that ship sailed, went to warp, and crashed into a local sun right about the time that lockboxes started appearing in game.
Sure people threaten legal action and complain that "laws are being broken" when their instant gratification isn't fulfilled, but this is, what, almost a year now, four different boxes later, and lockboxes aren't going away....
FYI: This link would probably be helpful.
ROLL TIDE ROLL
yea i know the box's exist for a long time in game, i see constant text flooting by my screen, name won bla bla ship, so i never thought the rewards wer crapy, so with this key action i thought to my self, why not buy 30 keys and try my luck, well turns out if your NOT lucky then the rest rewards are TRIBBLE, yes they have a value and not there not worth 30euro's so yea lockbox's are a RIPOFF, why can't cryptic add the ships to there C-Store like every other ship they added to the store!, reason here is there GREEDY and love to EXPLOIT lesser minded FANS! well i can say it was my first AND last time i spent money on zen for keys!! Cryptic can kiss my Butt! this fan is smart to NOT make the same stupid mistake twice. so i'll use my Lifetime zen on keys, and probably will sell them on exchange, or i need some cool device from the lobi store, then i will use the key my self, atleast i know i get min 4 lobi. anyways i know the box's won't go but i really hope more people will see the evil in them box's and then eventually they will be taken out, sadly there alot of lesser minded players out there with deep pockets.
As said in every other "why can't they add X ship to the Z-store instead of a lockbox" argument: CBS won't allow it. Lockboxes are the only way that Cryptic can guarantee their (relative) rarity and everyone and their brother won't be flying around in one.
I've bought a whopping three keys since I've started playing, when I've had one of those "what the hell, why not" moments. But I don't spend 30 bucks or more on lockboxes unless I have that much to spare, and I'm informed enough to know that my chances are still rare...besides, there are things in the Z-store more worth that kind of money (to me, anyway).
ROLL TIDE ROLL
Best thought (as I did yesterday) buy keys off the exchange. That way, you're only using up energy credits (rather than Zen/Dilithium) and once your out of energy credits, you aren't 'tempted' to buy more (cause you literally can't). I bought five keys with energy credits yesterday, across two accounts. I've two keys left (first three boxes gave me the equivalent of nothing). I would really like a Galor Cruiser, but I'm not spending more money on random chance as I did when these boxes first came around. Nomore.
I also agree with previous notions that the EC economy is all fracked up. People are just to bloody greedy. I mean placing something that shouldnt cost more than a 50,000 EC as 900,000,000 EC?! Who the hell has that much?! If you truly want to get rid of your items that you dont want give them a reasonable price. People starting off should NOT have to pay nearly 2 million EC for a GD lockbox key or example given 900,000,000 for a rare starship or console. Its prices like that, that ruin the game for those who are new because it sets an imposible goal for them to reach, and by the time they reach 9 out of 10 times the item they wanted is gone or the price has been increased.
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