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Fleet / Retrofit Ships - Worth It?

flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
edited December 2012 in Federation Discussion
I'm a level 50 Engineer usually flying a Federation Assault Cruiser / Terran Star Cruiser. I have both the Mirror Universe Science Ships too (because they were cheap on the exchange and I figured I'd see what they'd do for me).

Anyway, Fleet / Retrofit Ships. The obvious is that I could now fly a Sabre, Nova or Akira that is up to scratch with most of the other T5 ships. Short of that though, are any of them really worth it?

The only actual ship (rather than skin) that appeals to me is the Assault Cruiser because of it's Lt. Commander Tactical Slot (Torpedo High Yield 3 would be useful for a Cruiser Captain). Short of that that, there is no actual appeal appeal to any of the setups, and I'm not spending what would be 2000 zen / 20,000k energy credits for fleet ships that merely have a nice new skin.

I'm aware most come with extra console slots and better hull strengths, but are any of them truly worth the cost?
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  • intrepid74656intrepid74656 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    If you play PvE not so much. In PvP the 10% extra hull and shields can make the dif.
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  • bresalibresali Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    A Fleet Assault Cruiser, not a refit version, would be worth it with 4 tactical slots instead of 3 on the normal assault cruiser in addition to the 10% bonus on shields and hull.
  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Fleet ships are optimal for fighting. But only if you really want that. You can do perfectly fine with 9 console c-store and freebie ships. As things go, if you really want that extra oomph, you get a fleet ship. If you just want to be successful, regular ships work fine.
    It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once. B)
  • kiloacekiloace Member Posts: 488 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I don't know. I'm new returning to STO but it seems to me the T2 and T3 fleet retrofits are not on par with the Fleet VA ships. Not drastically so, but just enough.

    I say they should buff the Fleet Science Retrofit to be almost/as good as the Fleet Recon because they are so similar. I also think they should buff the Fleet Escort Retrofit to practically a reskin of the Fleet Patrol Escort because they are also so similar. Right now, they're lacking, marginally in hull survivability but also majorly in shield modifier level.

    I'm going to get a petition together for some changes to the fleet ships, because many other like myself love the little nova, the saber, and the other lower level ship designs, and we should have the opportunity to rock and roll with other VA's in our favorite ship without having to worry so much.
  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    If you're not desperate to leach every last drop of ability out of your ship for PvP, then don't worry too much if you don't have a fleet ship.

    You may want to consider one of the non retrofit fleet ships, which cost only fleet marks. Or if you already own a c-store retrofit, you might as well spend the single FSM on the fleet version.
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  • martakurillmartakurill Member Posts: 456 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Considering exactly what it takes for a fleet to even get access to a T5 shipyard, to get a fleet assault cruiser, no, its probably not worth it as things stand right now.

    That being said, I'd be lying if I said I didn't want one. I do. But I'll be just fine with my C-store version until such an opportunity presents itself.
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  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Planning on getting F-Excelsior because I already own the retrofit. But I am curious, does the FSM cost go down to 2 or 1 modules for people who already own the retrofit?
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  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Planning on getting F-Excelsior because I already own the retrofit. But I am curious, does the FSM cost go down to 2 or 1 modules for people who already own the retrofit?

    1 Fleet Ship Module if you already own the VA version.
    It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once. B)
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    It can be bought with a tier 3 shipyard, it has the same console layout, hull and shield strength as the fleet assault cruiser, it turns faster, it can transwarp everywhere, and it has the Lt. Cmdr tactical boff that you crave. It has an engineer ensign instead of a tactical ensign but that's not really a problem. It also has a dedicated science lieutenant instead of a universal lieutenant, but let's be honest here; nobody in their right mind would use the universal lieutenant for anything but science since the fleet assault cruiser has no other science boffs and polarize hull and hazard emitters are practically a necessity.
    My only beef with the Excelsior is that 3rd Engineering slot. If only they made that Science, I'd be happier. If only the Chimera Boff setup came with another (better looking) ship too...
    I bought mine by joining a friend's fleet and paying him a hefty sum of energy credits, but I'll soon have my own shipyard to tier 3. If you like, I can sell one to you if you have the fleet ship modules. My price is negotiable.
    That's a generous offer, but I only currently have 1 fleet module to my name along with 4.5mil Energy Credits. That's not even half the asking price.

    In regards to others that commented on PvP; I don't PvP. I might at some point, but I'm still getting used to what does what and the skills required ect. There's little point me going into PvP with little clue of what I'm getting involved in. PvE sometimes proves to be bitter toward my build. Think I'll stick to that for a while over PvE though.

    ...and last but not least; thank you to everyone who has replied. Short of that Excelsior (and maybe the Fleet Assault Cruiser) fleet ships aren't looking in my favor right at the moment.
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  • kiloacekiloace Member Posts: 488 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Though slightly off the point, I guess it depends on what you want from them.

    For example, I adored the [T2] Rhode Island class. I was one of those desperate for a T5 version. Needless to say the moment that the (pre-season 6) news that the Nova/Rhode Island was to become available as a T5 fleet ship broke, I was incredibly pleased and, obviously, purchased the T5 version the second I was able to.

    Sometimes it isn't about performance or how wonderful the BOFF layout etc is; sometimes it's simply about flying your favorite class of ship. My Rhode Island that ship that I ALWAYS go back to, regarless of the new and shiny ships that have been introduced since - in fact, though my Wells class is superior to it, I still use my Rhode Island more frequently.

    I'm in the exact same boat myself. My only problem is that it just isn't as good as the other options. If it has a very similar layout and it costs the same, why shouldn't it be as good?

    I think I'm going to hold off for a little while and see if they get buffed, but I'd really like the devs to tell me why there is such a considerable difference in stats between the Fleet Science Retrofit and its closest twin, the Fleet Recon.
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