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I wish an escort like this...

avengerkid1993avengerkid1993 Member Posts: 323 Arc User
edited December 2012 in Federation Discussion
FORE WEAPONS: 5
REAR WEAPONS: 2

HULL: 36.000+
SHIELD MOD: 1

ENG CONS: 2
SCI CONS: 3
TAC CONS: 4

Commander Tac
Lieutenant Commander Eng
Lieutenant Tac
Lieutenant Sci
Ensign Tac


Bonus:
+15 Weapon Power
Battle Cloak Module

considering the Dreadnought Cruiser, that have the Spinal Phaser Lance, can cloak and can mount cannons and have 40.000 Hull ...

i think they can made an escort like that !!

PS: IT MUST BE BEAUTIFUL !!!
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  • seekerkorhilseekerkorhil Member Posts: 472
    edited December 2012
    Lol 5 front weapons... :rolleyes:

    Personally I just want a standard escort BO layout, say the fleet sabre or fleet patrol escort, with a 3-3-4 console spread. I don't think that is too much to ask for. The KDF get one (even if they are always moaning about its broken turn point).
  • momawmomaw Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    So you want an escort that has cruiser shields and hull, 5 front weapons, and can disappear at will.

    Call me a pessimist, but I see some balance problems here.
  • avengerkid1993avengerkid1993 Member Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Lol 5 front weapons... :rolleyes:

    Personally I just want a standard escort BO layout, say the fleet sabre or fleet patrol escort, with a 3-3-4 console spread. I don't think that is too much to ask for. The KDF get one (even if they are always moaning about its broken turn point).


    well, 5 front weapons aren't too much !!

    consider that you can equip only 3 DHCs ... the 2 remaining slot can be used for 2 torpedo launcher or 1 torpedo and 1 dual phaser beam bank.

    afterall, an escort MUST deal massive dameges, more than any other ship ... but ships like the Dreadnought Cruisers deal more dameges and are generally stronger than an escort.

    also, I think there is a KDF ship that, through the siege mode, can divert all weapons on the fore ... 7 FORE WEAPONS !!!

    so please DEVs, give us the FED Destroyer Escort ...
  • wolfpack12cwolfpack12c Member Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Give it a turn rate of 5 and sure and an impuls modifier of .5 and in okay with it
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  • trahltrahl Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    well, 5 front weapons aren't too much !!

    consider that you can equip only 3 DHCs ... the 2 remaining slot can be used for 2 torpedo launcher or 1 torpedo and 1 dual phaser beam bank.

    afterall, an escort MUST deal massive dameges, more than any other ship ... but ships like the Dreadnought Cruisers deal more dameges and are generally stronger than an escort.

    also, I think there is a KDF ship that, through the siege mode, can divert all weapons on the fore ... 7 FORE WEAPONS !!!

    so please DEVs, give us the FED Destroyer Escort ...

    The Galaxy X can deal more damage if very well assembled- of course it has no way of delivering said power.

    You can't have a dreadnought escort.
  • avengerkid1993avengerkid1993 Member Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    momaw wrote: »
    So you want an escort that has cruiser shields and hull, 5 front weapons, and can disappear at will.

    Call me a pessimist, but I see some balance problems here.


    well, let consider the horrible Dreadnougt Cruiser:
    40.000 Hull ...
    1 Shield Modifie...

    4 FORE and 4 AFT Weapons ...
    can equip cannons ...
    can disappear at will ...
    HAVE THE PHASER SPINAL LANCE, that is a powerful weapons ...

    call me stupid, but it is like the escort i dream ...
    also, the escort i proposed don't have the Spinal Lance or other destructive weapons ...
    don't have 800 crew, but only 200 ...
    don't have 40.000 hull, but 36.000 ...

    i only asked a ship as strong as the Dreadnought, but more beautiful !
    let me tell you, the Dreadnought is horrible !!
  • avengerkid1993avengerkid1993 Member Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Give it a turn rate of 5 and sure and an impuls modifier of .5 and in okay with it

    ok, reduce the hull to 32.000 and the shield modifier to 0.9 but let me keep the 5 fore weapons T_T
  • cliftona91cliftona91 Member Posts: 254
    edited December 2012
    well, let consider the horrible Dreadnougt Cruiser:
    40.000 Hull ...
    1 Shield Modifie...

    4 FORE and 4 AFT Weapons ...
    can equip cannons ...
    can disappear at will ...
    HAVE THE PHASER SPINAL LANCE, that is a powerful weapons ...

    call me stupid, but it is like the escort i dream ...
    also, the escort i proposed don't have the Spinal Lance or other destructive weapons ...
    don't have 800 crew, but only 200 ...
    don't have 40.000 hull, but 36.000 ...

    i only asked a ship as strong as the Dreadnought, but more beautiful !
    let me tell you, the Dreadnought is horrible !!
    Okay first of all

    The turn rate is absolutely horrendous, so using low arc weapons like is a bad idea for the Dreadnought

    It can't disappear at will because it doesn't have a Battle Cloak

    The Phaser Lance has such a small arc you have an even harder time lining up that shot than you do lining up DHC's

    Your dream Escort is Overpowered, nearly as OP as the Jemmy Bug

    Besides, you don't need 5 Forward slots, 4 is more than enough for any end game Escort
  • whamhammer1whamhammer1 Member Posts: 2,290 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Only thing that should get 5 weapons on any side should be a battleship.
  • areikou#8990 areikou Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I'm genuinely surprised he didn't say to add 7 tac slots and 1 sci/eng slot.
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  • majortiraomegamajortiraomega Member Posts: 2,214 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    The devs have specifically stated in the past that 5 forward facing weapons are currently not supported by the ship framework engine. Even if it were, escorts already roast ships running 4 Dual Heavy cannons. Do we really want to give them 5? And a escort with cruiser level hull and shields (*cough* bug ship *cough*), but with battle cloak (overpowered if you do this). On top of that you want to give it Lt. Commander Engineering? The ship would be close to invincible. You realize that any escort with battle cloak is going to have to take a major hull penalty for balancing reasons. Bird of Prey are already a pain to kill in PvP due to their battle cloak. The one advantage escorts have over them is the fact that a fully buffed Beam Overload III can kill them in one shot. Double the bird of prey's hull and they would destroy everything.
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  • shookyangshookyang Member Posts: 1,122
    edited December 2012
    Neither the Dreadnaught or Tactical Escort Retrofit can cloak "at will". It can only cloak out of Red Alert status.
  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    ... call me stupid...

    Ok. You're stupid. This escort idea is whacked beyond belief. I mean seriously? You want cruiser level shields, cruiser level hull, and the Cruiser LtC Engi... and 5 forward weapons... the turn rate and inertia of an escort... and you still think that's balanced? Or even remotely fair? AND you want a battle-cloak?

    Good thing you put that quoted part in. Cuz at least now we know why you think that...

    My next question was how long was it between thinking up this idea and posting? Did you take any considerations into how this ship would be played, and how silly this idea actually was/is? This sir, deserves the Picard Maneuver...

    *facepalm
    It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once. B)
  • hroothvitnirhroothvitnir Member Posts: 322
    edited December 2012
    Give it a turn rate of 5 and sure and an impuls modifier of .5 and in okay with it

    Dont forget the LT and Ens Tac slots. We'll need that crfI every 30 seconds to deliver the massive dpsings.
  • avengerkid1993avengerkid1993 Member Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Ok. You're stupid. This escort idea is whacked beyond belief. I mean seriously? You want cruiser level shields, cruiser level hull, and the Cruiser LtC Engi... and 5 forward weapons... the turn rate and inertia of an escort... and you still think that's balanced? Or even remotely fair? AND you want a battle-cloak?

    Good thing you put that quoted part in. Cuz at least now we know why you think that...

    My next question was how long was it between thinking up this idea and posting? Did you take any considerations into how this ship would be played, and how silly this idea actually was/is? This sir, deserves the Picard Maneuver...

    *facepalm

    lol ...
    ok, maybe it is a bit overpowered ...
    ok, too overpowered ..

    but:
    the bridge officers are the same of the armitage ...
    the console slots are balanced ...

    mmm ...
    what do you think about the KDF ship that thourgh the siege mode can divert all the weapons to fore weapons ?
  • cliftona91cliftona91 Member Posts: 254
    edited December 2012
    lol ...
    ok, maybe it is a bit overpowered ...
    ok, too overpowered ..

    but:
    the bridge officers are the same of the armitage ...
    the console slots are balanced ...

    mmm ...
    what do you think about the KDF ship that thourgh the siege mode can divert all the weapons to fore weapons ?

    The Guramba can't do that. It has the same weapon slots as a regular escort: 4 forward, 3 aft.

    WTF are yo talking about?
  • shookyangshookyang Member Posts: 1,122
    edited December 2012
    mmm ...
    what do you think about the KDF ship that thourgh the siege mode can divert all the weapons to fore weapons ?
    Siege Destroyer: http://www.stowiki.org/Guramba_Siege_Destroyer
    Siege Mode: http://www.stowiki.org/Ability:_Siege_Mode
    Javelin: http://www.stowiki.org/Ability:_Javelin
  • avengerkid1993avengerkid1993 Member Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    yes ... i think mabe was it the ship i was talking ...
    it is like an escort with a powerful siege mode !!
  • shookyangshookyang Member Posts: 1,122
    edited December 2012
    yes ... i think mabe was it the ship i was talking ...
    it is like an escort with a powerful siege mode !!
    It is the only ship that has Siege mode. Did you read all of the links that I posted?

    In short, Siege mode simply reroutes power from the engines to the weapons and gives it the ability to drain power from it's target.

    That power can be used for the Javelin, which reverts the ship back to normal mode.

    There's nothing in the description that says all of the aft weapons become fore weapons.
  • avengerkid1993avengerkid1993 Member Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    mmm, maybe i was wrong, now that I think about it, I might have been fooled by beam array's targeting arc ...

    in fact he attack me with beam arrays only ... maybe he attacked me from the broadside so i thought he had 7 fore weapons LOL ...

    PS: you are officially authorized to 20 facepalm
  • cliftona91cliftona91 Member Posts: 254
    edited December 2012
    *group facepalm*
  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    *double facepalm for good measure*
    It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once. B)
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