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chaz200565chaz200565 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
I tried into the hive on normal mode.ground mission.
This mission is impossible to do.
Devs this is no fun if a mission can not be done, please make them alot easier to do.
I bet theres not many who do these borg missions,as they are far to difficult to do.
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  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    there is this thing called "challenge" some actually enjoy a "challenge"
    while it is hard, certainly harder than all the other stfs, it is far from impossible. period. The game is far too easy anyway.
    get advice on tactics and gear necessary to do it, get a good grp and you will succeed, a PUG won't.
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  • chaz200565chaz200565 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    you are in the very small minority i bet.
  • chaz200565chaz200565 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    A challenge is one thing,but something being impossible to do is another.
  • brigadooombrigadooom Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    It is possible on Normal and Elite, I've managed both, however it seems very buggy and more often than not the Queen will take a swan dive off the side and be untargetable, forcing you to reset the encounter by dying, which after a while gets particularly annoying, especially when you're on the final phase.

    Needs fixing.
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  • supergirl1611supergirl1611 Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Team missions are moly as differcult as the people playing with you make it. Hive is tough but a good team, well equipped and working together can beat itt. Pls no more nerds to stf's
  • thomas12255thomas12255 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    In the normal one I did it took my group 6 times to defeat the queen, mostly because most of us died during the cutscenes.
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  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    if it is too hard or even impossible for you or other people that is one thing, it is certainly doable for people who invest time and brainpower into it.
    It is too hard for farming your omega marks, no doubt...but it is NOT impossible hard. It is a mission i would advice to never PUG, but with a grp of capable people that spend some time into informing themselves about tactics and getting the equipment needed, it is just another stf.
    knowledge and experiance is the key to this stf. If you do not want to involve yourself that deep into this game you shouldn't expect to clear all endgame content, since it is not made for all players, only for those with enough dedication and time for it.
    The mission itself is not even necessary to get to the highend equipment, so no real need for a nerf hammer.
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  • brigadooombrigadooom Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Fix it before thinking about nerfing it at least.
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  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    very tough is not the same thing as impossible.
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Use a remodulator.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
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  • hyplhypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    It's only impossible if you PUG with a group of TOS roleplaying heros who don't bring remodulators and are stacked with injuries... :rolleyes:
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    One thread says it's hard, another says easy....MAKE UP YOUR MINDS!!!!!!:D
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  • dtoxukdtoxuk Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Impossible? Sign me up, where can i find this mission? :D
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    One thread says it's hard, another says easy....MAKE UP YOUR MINDS!!!!!!:D
    +1

    I've tried it, it's not easy but far from impossible.
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  • idronaidrona Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    chaz200565 wrote: »
    I tried into the hive on normal mode.ground mission.
    This mission is impossible to do.
    Devs this is no fun if a mission can not be done, please make them alot easier to do.
    I bet theres not many who do these borg missions,as they are far to difficult to do.

    I'm gonna give advice, though I haven't tried Into the Hive Ground myself yet.

    Go to Orellius Sector, Defera Invasion Zone and spend a few days there.
    Do all missions (which all are repeatable) and team up with others when it gets too hard solo.

    The missions in the Invasion Zone are divided into Easy, Medium and Hard, stay and fight until you soloed atleast all the Easy ones. There are also a bunch of Zone Wide missions there which you should take before heading out to fight (a couple of them are bugged and can't be finished).

    When you get tired or about to give up, go to sector space and do all the Aid the Deferi daily missions and then head back to the Invasion Zone.

    Doing all this would make you better at fighting the Borg I think and it will get you some nice rewards and weapons. Hopefully it will also make it alot easier for you to do Into the Hive Ground

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  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    One thread says it's hard, another says easy....MAKE UP YOUR MINDS!!!!!!:D

    Too easy is talking about space. Too hard is talking about ground. The difference is very true and the opposite of all the rest of the game.

    I can run on elite ground combat starting at level 5-ish all the way to 50 no trouble. Even my best 50 has difficulty with normal space combat just on hard, and I can't solo elite missions. With the borg, this is mostly inverted.

    In Elite space combat pugs do just fine (except on a few STFs where people act dumb then bail out), but even normal ground fail more than 80% of the time without a premade team who knows the mission inside and out.

    It is kind of weird really. But I have fun so *shrugs*
  • outlaw51825outlaw51825 Member Posts: 172 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I almost never touch ground STF's any more. I dont like ground combat period. The damage you take is more on a cover shooter level without cover shooting mechanics. I have elite level fleet gear and i STILL get torched by borg within two or three shots. THAT isnt fun THAT isnt proper game mechanics.

    Ground Needs a total re balancing. It really does. Personal shields shouldn't be instawiped i dont care what the mob is. A person shouldnt need to put so many points in ground he detracts from a proper space build. :(
  • logicalspocklogicalspock Member Posts: 836 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Unfortunately, it is nearly impossible to do in a public pug queue, but then again, so is IGE.
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    chaz200565 wrote: »
    A challenge is one thing,but something being impossible to do is another.

    Well since thousands of sucessful runs have been made since the mission has been released on Tribble, your argument is flawed.
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  • aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    My humble advice : get good at playing the other STF ground missions first .
    Once you do that give Into the Hive another shot .

    Into the Hive is a cut above the rest in terms of difficulty (which is used to hide the fact that it is a really-really short mission w/very few new assets thrown in , and not exactly a stretch in Dev the imagination in terms of development) .
    If they nerf it , both ground & space will become the next Infected Space , in terms of fly-through-the-mission-fast .
  • travelingmastertravelingmaster Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I wouldn't be surprised if it was nerfed at some point. We can't possibly allow the Kirks to be faced with a challenge that they couldn't heroically shoot their way out of with their laughable, ineffective builds. . .they might complain, and start flinging insults at players who actually have skill and competence, and often work with the devs to keep things running smoothly.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I have to say that the ground part is rather creative. Not necessarily awesome, but fun.
    Also, something I had to learn the hard way, never go in a stf instance without a pulsewave, sniper rifle or melee weapon. It's best to carry them at all times.
    I don't always have pulse or sniper, but I always have a melee weapon... as my secondary weapon. that way I can go "adapt to this" and hack a borg apart simply by pushing z.
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  • olivia211olivia211 Member Posts: 675 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I always carry my maco xii rifle and my lirpa. Makes Borg runs pretty easy. I also have a backup pulse wave should I only be able to shoot enemies.
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  • thestargazethestargaze Member Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I wish you would get some of the rewards reaching some points in the game. .. then if someone leaves before the end it wouldn't be a total waist of time.
  • jtmarshjtmarsh Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Hard? Heck ya but all fun!!! The other STF's are easy! Hive aint KAGE people;) Im full Adapted Maco and had a team that was at least full op Maco with at least one adapted like me. It took us almost a hour with the queen. 3 wipes. Know what I LOVED IT!!!

    Keep in mind people used to say Infected ground was too hard and Cure Ground I heard people attack all the time. Early on Cure ground was almost unplayable. Just too hard for most. Finally people figured it out.

    Hive is the same. There is a way to beat it if you have a good team and you all know what you are doing. Stay in corners, support and res you team. Sniper borg. Run fast corner to corner. Get her attacking one corner while others shoot from other corner. Once everyone gets used too it then it will be as easy as the others. "BTW" we got the op

    Now the main problem with HIVE is no one wants to do it. With the Rep system it has killed a lot of STF's No weapon drop so why do the hard STF's?? Just stick with infected space and KAGE. Unless you need the op for uniform unlock. But hive gives you no extra uniform unlock for the op so there is no real reason that you need it. That is why I dislike the rep system. They need to make a reason to do hive as well as the other STF's again.
  • weylandjuarezweylandjuarez Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Whilst I agree that the balancing on these STFs is way out of whack and that the shields are largely superfluous, they do at least give you a split second to react to what's happening and either hit a shield battery or the MACO's built-in shield capacitor to stop yourself getting wiped in the next volley.

    A good team knows to target the Heavies and the Elites first and a team with a good melee player benefits from those Borg being locked down in melee combat making the rest of the drones relatively easy.

    Into The Hive is definitely a challenge compared to IGE which was previously the toughest of the ground STFs - the only problem being that IGE's challenges came from the necessity for teamwork, the environments and the grouping of the Borg - Hive gets its challenge merely from having a stupidly tough boss (and sub-boss) and multiple waves of drones.

    I've finished Hive ground a few times now and it's my least favourite of all the ground maps simply because it's dull and doesn't do anything particularly clever or interesting.

    Once simple tip when fighting the Borg though: never turn your back on them - it's usually the flank shots that kill you ;)
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I found normal to be relatively easy as a Fab Eng. We got wiped at least once on the boss level, but it wasn't too hard. And this was me with random bits of junk for gear(and a Nano-pulse batleth).
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  • interestedguyinterestedguy Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    baudl wrote: »
    there is this thing called "challenge" some actually enjoy a "challenge"
    while it is hard, certainly harder than all the other stfs, it is far from impossible. period. The game is far too easy anyway.
    get advice on tactics and gear necessary to do it, get a good grp and you will succeed, a PUG won't.

    This game really could use more difficult content. It is frustrating at first to get stomped after being able to roll through the rest of the game fairly easily. However, it also gets very boring being able to roll through the game fairly easily.

    The OPs criticism is like saying the No Win scenario is too difficult and should be nerfed. There is plenty of content that is easy to do if that is what you are looking for. If you are one of those players that wants to beat everything, then figure out a way to beat it.
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