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maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited December 2012 in PvP Gameplay
i have a question reguarding the pvp boot camp.

are there going to be any "gentlemens rules" about recruitng from boot campers?

ie- a single fleet cant say "theyre allz mines!" etc etc.

just wondering.
mancom wrote: »
Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
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  • gradstudent1gradstudent1 Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    maicake716 wrote: »
    i have a question reguarding the pvp boot camp.

    are there going to be any "gentlemens rules" about recruitng from boot campers?

    ie- a single fleet cant say "theyre allz mines!" etc etc.

    just wondering.

    Thanks, maicake. I am going to be addressing this very point in the next coaches conference call, which will be about 1-1.5 weeks before the first event (Dec 29th). In short: Boot Camp will not condone the recruitment of players during Boot Camp events.
  • maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Thanks, maicake. I am going to be addressing this very point in the next coaches conference call, which will be about 1-1.5 weeks before the first event (Dec 29th). In short: Boot Camp will not condone the recruitment of players during Boot Camp events.

    ah. so when one enters the boot camp how long will it be? when will people be allowed to be "recruited" by a pvp fleet.

    will this information when its finalized, be posted so boot campers and fleets will know the rules on it?
    mancom wrote: »
    Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
    Science pvp at its best-http://www.youtube.com/user/matteo716
    Do you even Science Bro?
  • gradstudent1gradstudent1 Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    maicake716 wrote: »
    ah. so when one enters the boot camp how long will it be? when will people be allowed to be "recruited" by a pvp fleet.

    will this information when its finalized, be posted so boot campers and fleets will know the rules on it?

    I am planning to post a few general policies on the PvP Boot Camp website, which will touch on the following non-exhaustive list of issues:

    - Recruitment (outside of official Boot Camp settings [namely, the monthly events themselves] coaches may do what they wish. I have no desire to micromanage people's behavior. But it is very important that the event itself is low pressure and that students don't feel like they are receiving advertisement within a session taht is meant to be solely dedicated to learning about PvP.

    - Learning Environment: Emphasis will be on making each event a safe place where people can ask questions, receive feedback, and make mistakes, without fear of retribution, mocking, etc. from the coach.

    - Curriculum/Teaching Style: Coaches will be given general guidelines for what should be taught, all of which will be based on a 4-part curriculum that is currently under development. But these guidelines will be general enough that teachers' personal style will be able to be expressed.

    These are just a few things and I welcome any feedback on what I have written above. Please keep in mind, though, that the three points I give above are tentative and are in response to this particular thread's concern. Thanks again for the inquiries.
  • bortjinxbortjinx Member Posts: 397
    edited December 2012
    Where do I sign up for boot camp, and what does it entail?
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  • drkfrontiersdrkfrontiers Member Posts: 2,477 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    bortjinx wrote: »
    Where do I sign up for boot camp, and what does it entail?

    Just click on this link and all will be revealed.
  • gradstudent1gradstudent1 Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    bortjinx wrote: »
    Where do I sign up for boot camp, and what does it entail?

    Actually, registration for the first event will not open until the middle-end of next week, concomitant with a guest blog that will come out on the STO website titled, "PvP Boot Camp: We Want YOU." But if you want, you can register on the website that drkfrontiers references above. Thanks for your interest!
  • bortjinxbortjinx Member Posts: 397
    edited December 2012
    I tried to register for your site, but it seems it is not live yet. I thoguht I'd be able to register for the site, just not the event.

    Hopefully I'll be able to make it to the Boot Camp on the 29th (8pm CET), but I may have christmas/new year plans interfering. If I miss this first one, can I join in the new year instead?
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  • gradstudent1gradstudent1 Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    bortjinx wrote: »
    I tried to register for your site, but it seems it is not live yet. I thoguht I'd be able to register for the site, just not the event.

    Hopefully I'll be able to make it to the Boot Camp on the 29th (8pm CET), but I may have christmas/new year plans interfering. If I miss this first one, can I join in the new year instead?

    Hmmm. I am surprised you had trouble registering on the site. Many people are already in our system, and we don't have any open apps.

    You cannot register for hte event itself, but you should be able to just register for the site. Just in case you missed something, here are the instructions for site registration.

    - Go to http://pvp-boot.camp.shivtr.com/
    - In the right hand side of the homepage, click on the link that says, "Apply to Community."
    - This should take you to a login screen. Click the link that says, "Create Account" if you don't alreayd have a Shivtr account.
    - FOllow instructions from there.
    - We will then approve your application.

    And by the way, if you can't make the Boot Camp in December, you can join the one in January, the following month, absolutely. Boot Camp is a monthly event! Thanks for your interest.

    If you continue to have problems, I will get drkfrontiers--the technical genius behind the website--to contact you and get things worked out. Thanks again!
  • bortjinxbortjinx Member Posts: 397
    edited December 2012
    Ah, I see. I was using the 'How to Register' image in the centre of the page.

    Edit: Ok, I clicked the 'Apply to Community' link, and it asked me to complete an application form asking for my character name, race, and class. I think it might have just made me apply to join the guild, although that could just be because it ais a guild website for a PvP event. Not too sure.

    If it didn't work, I'll wait until I hear from drkfrontiers.
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  • shimmerlessshimmerless Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    If you'd like some extra help or to catch up with a missed session, you can always PM me or a number of my fleetmates at any time and I'll give you a hand.
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  • bortjinxbortjinx Member Posts: 397
    edited December 2012
    Thanks for the offer Shimmerless. I might take you up on that :)
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  • aquitaine985aquitaine985 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Bit of a pointless question really, all those that happen to be fleetless will know which fleet is which and instantly want to be in the "best".

    And thus other fleets who need fresh PVP talent more will be just as baron as they were before.
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  • maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Bit of a pointless question really, all those that happen to be fleetless will know which fleet is which and instantly want to be in the "best".

    And thus other fleets who need fresh PVP talent more will be just as baron as they were before.

    which is why i asked if there will be any "gentlemens" agreements to recruiting the boot campers.

    if there is then i intend to make sure TSI follows any reasonable guidelines.
    mancom wrote: »
    Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
    Science pvp at its best-http://www.youtube.com/user/matteo716
    Do you even Science Bro?
  • devorasxdevorasx Member Posts: 693
    edited December 2012
    maicake716 wrote: »
    which is why i asked if there will be any "gentlemens" agreements to recruiting the boot campers.

    if there is then i intend to make sure TSI follows any reasonable guidelines.

    To my knowledge the only coaches from TSI is myself and Hammel.
    Co-founder of The Spanish Inquisition TSI - Cause no one expects it!

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  • bortjinxbortjinx Member Posts: 397
    edited December 2012
    maicake716 wrote: »
    which is why i asked if there will be any "gentlemens" agreements to recruiting the boot campers.

    if there is then i intend to make sure TSI follows any reasonable guidelines.

    I saw some comments in a different thread - the Space Rules thread (I think) - in which someone had listed some rules for the boot camp which included 'Keep recruitment out of boot camp'. Basically it explained that people went to boot camp to learn about PvP, and not to join a fleet.
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  • zorena#3961 zorena Member Posts: 254 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I just wish to post this DOESN'T mean you can't invite someone to your T5 fleet and let a new player buy a ship and leave tho?
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  • gradstudent1gradstudent1 Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    zorandra wrote: »
    I just wish to post this DOESN'T mean you can't invite someone to your T5 fleet and let a new player buy a ship and leave tho?

    Thanks, Zorandra for this response. In short, of course you may invite someone to your fleet for fleet-based transactions.

    The whole philosophy behind the "no recruitment zone" during Boot Camp events is simply to remove additional pressure that newer players could feel, in addition to the pressure already exerted on them by the sharp learning curve that is PvP.

    Simply put: Our goal at Boot Camp is to educate, not recruit players. What you do outside of the Boot Camp time with respect to recruitment is your own business. My concern is simply that the 1.5 hours/month during which Boot Camp is running is focused exclusively on making people better PvP players.

    We will have a meeting in the very near future, perhaps arund the 21st, to discuss a wide range of issues, including recruitment policies. Again, thanks for keeping this issue at the forefront, beacuse it is very important.
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