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Klingon game play lacks missions

wlc355wlc355 Member Posts: 41 Arc User
edited December 2012 in Klingon Discussion
The Klingon game play lacks mission even after doing the entire story line and the daily missions. I think there need to be more missions for the Klingon game play.
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  • vitzhvitzh Member Posts: 519
    edited December 2012
    Welcome to KDF, where what you are saying has been requested since day one. Unfortunately Cryptic's constant responses and actions regarding KDF means that I doubt you'll ever get what you are asking for.
  • hawks3052hawks3052 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Welcome to the KDF. More content has been asked for since beta, but all we good were promises by the developers and misinformations.

    The problem is this game has gonem uch to far down the road so I doubt the KDF will ever be a full faction. Cryptic does not spend that manpower, since they have to do C-Store Fed stuff to stay profitable.
  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Your opinion is different from cryptics.
    Cryptics opinion is "why bother with something that it too hard?".
    Can you counter that opinion?
    No, I thought not.
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    In the last Ask Cryptic, Dan Stahl claimed they're considering new KDF content. However, in that same Ask Cryptic he also stated they'd recently lost money on some of the KDF ships.

    So take those words with a grain of salt.
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    -Thomas Marrone
  • vinru821vinru821 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    What else is new? lol
    :eek:
  • gypsybladegypsyblade Member Posts: 730 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    They lost money on ships because they never invested much in the KDF from launch. Many people refuse to play KDF because there is nothing to do. It's a cycle that's completely Cryptics fault

    They refuse to put money and work into making the KDF a full faction, now they want to make a Romulan faction. They can't even make 2 full factions for this game

    They want the maximum amount of profit for the least amount of work.

    If the Devs were Ferengi, they'd see the value in the KDF.

    Example: Many people I know don't wanna bother raising Marauding because the boff is broken.

    Fix the boff, more people would play = maybe buy things there
  • harrymonkleyharrymonkley Member Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    KDF > Fed IMHO;

    Sometimes less is more, the feds get more story missions, but they are basically very samey and repetitive and quite tedious, they get more ships but they are 47 varieties of bland, and more costume options - KDF is for warriors not wannabe fashion models, and who needs space whales that look like a dinner plate and a couple of tampon applicators when you have BOPs, the Vor'cha and the Vo'Quv

    Fed content is contrained heavily by the IP, the need to get CBS approval, and the rabid fans - which leads to it all being very homogenous, good guys win, blah blah blah blah blah boooooring.

    The Klingons on the other hand get to face off against their cultural legends and kick their backsides which apart from the epicness of killing your gods is a far deeper cultural exploration than anything the feds get. And there is room within the faction for a diversity of characters in terms of their ethics and morality as opposed to the fed boyscout brigade.

    Take a look at the Doff missions - the Klingon variants are much funnier and more varied compared to the fed ones. The KDF crit and disaster results on many of the missions have some very dark humour.

    Is more necessarily better?
  • dma1986dma1986 Member Posts: 541 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I wouldn't mind having a KDF version of the Starbase 24 PvE added.
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited December 2012

    Is more necessarily better?

    Considering our last KDF specific mission was Alpha and it was the only new KDF specific mission since........ Honestly can't remember the last KDF-only missions we got....... Yeah, the less with better quality is more than many missions with poor quality thing isn't flying.

    We need level 1-20 content thats just for us.
    Leonard Nimoy, Spock.....:(

    R.I.P
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  • harrymonkleyharrymonkley Member Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    We need level 1-20 content thats just for us.

    Even if it is as formulaic, bland and tedious as the fed content?

    I'm not trying to argue that the KDF shouldn't get more content, or doesn't deserve it, and I think that the KDF as a faction has much more interesting possibilities in terms of gameplay due to the way that the KDF is structured - houses providing sub-factions (with their own sub-cultures, traits, tech variants, mercs, ship variants, costumes) - I can see multiple ways to make an involving gameplay experience if only cryptic had the ambition to embrace the possibilities.
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Even if it is as formulaic, bland and tedious as the fed content?

    Yes

    We are used to it by now from all the copy paste FE's so having a formulaic, bland and tediuos storyline to follow while still being all those things is, if its KDF specific, better than what we have now with no storyline arc that helps us, as fans, enjoy STO from a KDF viewpoint.
    Leonard Nimoy, Spock.....:(

    R.I.P
  • jamesburtchelljamesburtchell Member Posts: 94 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Alright this is my point of view. Even if its just fed missions turn klingon i would love that... its better then no missions. I've been saying that about the Cardassion missions for a long time.. hell give us the fed rommie missions and let them turn KDF that would work to. that's just my opioion.
    The Emperor isn't please with Cryptic apparent lack of progress for the Empire. Lord Vader is on his way
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    patrickngo wrote: »

    The only issue remaining, is convincing them to DO SO.

    That is the heart of the Good fight!!

    You are correct though that with some love and attention many damn good Foundry missions could be converted to state up legit KDF content with rewards and a place in the backstory to fill the missing 1-21 ranks.
    Leonard Nimoy, Spock.....:(

    R.I.P
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    patrickngo wrote: »

    I"d almost suspect the reason we don't have MORE in this case, is that the Devs don't have a decent writer left among them who can HANDLE the level of content in terms of detail and storytelling those KDF specific strings carry.

    In any other situation chances are I would agree with you but I've spoken with Kestrel in a calm social setting before interviews and I think she has an excellent grasp of all things KDF (from Ridges to Gorn to Orion to Leatheans) and for some reason that never quite got spoken aloud they have her reigns a bit tight and will not let her run.
    Leonard Nimoy, Spock.....:(

    R.I.P
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    patrickngo wrote: »


    So instead it's a management directive that sticks us with things like PokeRomulus, FarmRomulus, and, of course, "Helplessly incompetent Peasant: New Romulus"?



    I can only surmise that something is holding her back as she sounded very eager to do lots more KDF, as well as whole stories, when we at GoS spoke with her.


    for the moment I'll let Joan say how I feel about the KDF, Cryptic and STO.
    Joan Jett
    Leonard Nimoy, Spock.....:(

    R.I.P
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  • vitzhvitzh Member Posts: 519
    edited December 2012
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    for the moment I'll let Joan say how I feel about the KDF, Cryptic and STO.
    Joan Jett

    Surely Elton John?
  • dma1986dma1986 Member Posts: 541 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    patrickngo wrote: »
    For instance, eliminating the entire "Night of the Comet" string from the KDF side and nobody'd really miss it
    Orion TRIBBLE/dancers would, it's the source of the nerve tonic for their "sexy" dance :rolleyes:

    KDF Players would also lose the chance to get the TOS-style weapons (like the Klingon Disruptor pistol), and of course, the ghostbuster gun and the Devidian ship device thingy.
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    patrickngo wrote: »
    y'know, I've played that mission several times and NEVER GOT the "Nerve tonic". not once, lol.

    Yes, you did or you couldn't complete the mission.
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    patrickngo wrote: »
    no, poured whiny her drink, but nothing ever showed up in my inventory post-mission except for the hardware.

    Same drink, but the trick is that you cant have more than 1 in inventory at a time, so make one and give it to your boff, make another, give it away, etc, then complete the mission. When you're back at a bank terminal put them into the bank, or mail them (they do not stack). Drink one and your female toon will dance all sleazy like- great weekend fun.
    ;)
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    vitzh wrote: »
    bitemepwe wrote: »

    Surely Elton John?

    Only if Dan wears those glasses.:P
    Leonard Nimoy, Spock.....:(

    R.I.P
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  • oldkhemaraaoldkhemaraa Member Posts: 1,039 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    nerve tonic..

    won't stack..

    over a year and a half ago a cryptic dev siaid thet it would be made availible as a purchase (the emote)

    Honestly, if I didn't have a LTM and wanted THIS game to be a lot more then it is, I wouldn't be here.. I did my act of faith way back..

    KDF Mission content..

    Right here, right now, while it would be excellent to have specific KDF story missions, and it certainly CAN be done... let us note it has been stated that Cryptic is lazy... not so much lazy folks, and just flat greedy to the point af making a Ferengi look generous, and philanthropic in comparison.

    LOBI store... ohhhh top end ship 800 Lobi crystals.. lets see.. that a minimum of 160 lockboxes (assuming you get 5 out of each box.. good luck with that..).. lets see master keys work out to around .90 to 1.00$ a key if you but them in lots of 10 (current price 1000 Zen for $10) so to get that ship means you can expect to pay $160 to $200 per ship.

    Greed.. pure, unmitigated greed.. Cryptic has lost sight of the IP and what Trek is all about.

    There are people who keep stateing in these forums that the LOBI store etc is all super cool, and great and.... I'd call them "Moron" but that would be an insult to moron's and a waste of a perfectly good insult...

    What i have seen time and again is Crytic Studio's as a whole grabbing of any excuse to not do something. That will justify NOT adding content to the game that isn't monitized in some way. ANd lets add.. Lieing to its customers about it.. no excuses excepted on this.. "at the time" , "things change" etc.. Call it BS as it adds in toto to a specific purpousfull goal of missleading, misdirecting, dissambling to, and decieving thier customers so they wont run off and take thier money elsewhere. But Trek fans, and Trek gamers are fiathfull belivers. We want to belive.. and the management at Cryptic, and PWI are more then willing to take advantage of that, because there is no way the ongoing and constant conspiricy of deception could have kept this game running without it.. to obvious, to transparent, and way to obviously manipulative, including shills in the forums...

    I'll belive there more KDF content when I see it. I'm even willing to have a little bit of faith there might be. What I won't be doing is lauding STO in the hopes it'll motivate the4 studio to expidite delivery.. Because simply put, it won't work. It's never worked in the past, and it won't work now.. Some may remember this, but at one point Cryptic staffers posted on the games forums at around release asking thier players to go vote for STO as the best new MMO.. well, we did.. and even got a title to pin on our characters about it. The writing was on the wall.. Cryptic studio's as more then willing to skew a fan vote for free publicity. Really, I'm convinced. STO will likely be pretty much dead in two to three years at this point if the studio doesn't start adding a lot more REAL content instead of more monitizing scemes. There only so long the majority of the players can choose to be stupid. On the other hand.. considering that would put STO easily within the run time for an MMO that would make the game a success. Of course there is no other IP they could possibly get away with this with other then Startrek. The other biggest scifi IP on the planets is Starwars.. and in thier MMO's they don't do anything close to this TRIBBLE...more respect for the product and the players I can only assume.

    The Alternatives or "it wont be star trek, but it will be Sci Fi."

    NCSoft is very nearly done on thore SciFi staerday morning cartoon/space opera MMO Lonestar.. and Chris Roberts "Star Citizen" is now firmly in development. Eve is expanding with DUST just around the corner, with a nod to quite possible at some point adding actuall in game social area's where player avatars can interact with each other...CCP is in no rush to do this.. Considering Eve is very much an adult game it could be that they just want to get it right the first time so they dont have to worry about it a great deal afterwards..

    Everyone here who is a KDF player did our voting with our wallets mostly some time ago.. time to vote again.. and urge your fed buddies to do the same.. STOP SPENDING MONEY ON STO. Better to see this game die and give another Studio a shot at the IP...
    "I aim to misbehave" - Malcolm Reynolds
  • branmakmorrnbranmakmorrn Member Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    wlc355 wrote: »
    The Klingon game play lacks mission even after doing the entire story line and the daily missions.

    More missions are available daily if you completed them the day before, thus creating a temporal vortex of continuous content.

    Your argument is invalid.
    wlc355 wrote: »
    I think there need to be more missions for the Klingon game play.

    I think so too. It's bunk that, even if you wait until you max your Fed to VA before you level a KDF toon, you're still just... repeating the same content (most of the way, at least.)

    Missing out on those first 20 levels... sucks.

    But, really, the aesthetic quality of KDF space, and ships, and the playability of the ships, is totally worth it. Even though it's not really as viable of a levelling option as others, Foundry missions are pretty fun. When /if the Foundry is up.
  • admiraljt#1430 admiraljt Member Posts: 452 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I've often poked fun at Klingons, mainly cause it's so easy to ruffle their feathers. But I have to say My favorite missions in this game have been the Klingon ones. When Cryptic makes Klingon only content they do it really well. "Bringing Down the House" & "The House Always Wins" are my two favorite missions in game. The fact that Cryptic doesn't make more KDF only content is just a shame.
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