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Sao Paulo: Worth buying?

lewstelamon01lewstelamon01 Member Posts: 924 Arc User
edited December 2012 in Federation Discussion
I've been doing a little bit of window shopping for fed ships, and I really like the defiant class escort...so I'm wondering if the Sao Paulo class is worth buying for its quad phaser cannons?

Yes, I know there are some that would say just to wait til I reach VA and buy the tac escort retrofit....but there's a certain Romulan warbird around Hobus that seems to give me hell -.-

Just out of curiosity....

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  • novathelegendnovathelegend Member Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Personally, I like the quad cannons. Visually they are nice, and the damage is pretty decent.
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  • hyplhypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    As any extremely retentive hardcore STO player would say, no, they are not worth it. Don't waste your money/zen/dilithium for it. They drain your engine power and they have useless DMG mods. Blah blah blah, whine whine whine.

    However, if you want the Sao Paulo skin for your defiant and some visually nifty and somewhat useful cannons, go for it. :)
  • nyxadrillnyxadrill Member Posts: 1,242 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Personally, I like the quad cannons. Visually they are nice, and the damage is pretty decent.

    and they make a great noise :) I love the look of it and have the skin on my fleet tactical escort refit.
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  • jkstocbrjkstocbr Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Its worth it just for the ship ship. Looks much better that the dated Defiant :cool:
  • matridunadan1matridunadan1 Member Posts: 579 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    but there's a certain Romulan warbird around Hobus that seems to give me hell -.-

    If you want, I can fly shotgun with you. That Warbird has never given me any problems whatsoever.
  • bohiapbohiap Member Posts: 535
    edited December 2012
    jkstocbr wrote: »
    Its worth it just for the ship ship. Looks much better that the dated Defiant :cool:
    ^^ This.

    I have the Sao Paulo, but I got it after I got the defiant-R. I bought it mostly for the skin.
    If you are leveling, and still getting decent weapons, then the quad cannon is great.

    But, by the time you get to VA you'll want Dual Heavy Cannons. The quad is also a phaser weapon. Phasers work great for PvE missions, but if you end up doing STFs many people prefer anti-proton weapons.
  • lewstelamon01lewstelamon01 Member Posts: 924 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    If you want, I can fly shotgun with you. That Warbird has never given me any problems whatsoever.

    I finally beat it....after who knows how many attempts. I hit him, we blew up together....ya know, like a Pinto....

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  • stofskstofsk Member Posts: 1,744 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    bohiap wrote: »
    But, by the time you get to VA you'll want Dual Heavy Cannons. The quad is also a phaser weapon. Phasers work great for PvE missions, but if you end up doing STFs many people prefer anti-proton weapons.
    You can have quads with DHCs so it's not an either/or proposition. And STFs do not mandate antiproton weaponry at all. In fact, you can use pretty much any weapon and it doesn't matter.

    To the OP, yes the Sao Paulo is worth it, if you want it. I got the Sao Paulo back before quad cannons had their damage increased, purely because I wanted quad cannons.
  • l0cutus359l0cutus359 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    stofsk wrote: »
    You can have quads with DHCs so it's not an either/or proposition. And STFs do not mandate antiproton weaponry at all. In fact, you can use pretty much any weapon and it doesn't matter.

    To the OP, yes the Sao Paulo is worth it, if you want it. I got the Sao Paulo back before quad cannons had their damage increased, purely because I wanted quad cannons.

    Are they worth it? From a VA perspective, probably not...but if you are ranking up from Captain, they are handy b/c the quad cannons rank up with you to VA.

    I am big fan of DS9 and the Defiant.... I have a Fleet Defiant with Quad Cannons and Cloak (I swap it back forth with armor depending on mission). I ranked up with a Defiant as soon I could obtain one. The visual and sound of the quad cannons are just plain cool.

    So yea...I am missing a Critical Severity bump with them but my other (3) DHC's in the front of the Defiant make up for it.

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  • candariecandarie Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Quad Cannons are comparable DPS on up to Adv Fleet DHCs now. Many people remember a time from before this was true, so some of the advice against them comes from this era.

    Are they "Best in Slot"? No of course not. You can squeeze out a little more with Anti-Protons and maybe even something like Phaser DHC MK12 [Acc]x3.

    But the truth is, I use them on my Tac in Elite STFs every day, and in 9 out of 10 groups I am the highest DPS in the group. The extra that is available past what Quads put out is simply not necessary for eSTF optionals. NWS would be a different story but for me, I use this ship to grind dilithium.

    As others have noted, if you're pre-VA (or might be on any alts), its the best ship in it's tier by far. Skin options are good too!

    One of the better purchases I've ever made overall.
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