I am looking at the fleet Excelsior and I was a little disappointed to see it was missing a universal ensign, the engineering ensign more or less goes to waste and could be used to far better effect in science, you cant say it was so that people can't have 4 tactical skills (Fleet Assault cruiser) but an ensign at science would MAKE the fleet Excelsior.
So Devs, if you would please be so kind as to make that change
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Is now, look on Tribble
With the sole exception of boffs it does everything the oddy does, only better
BTW, does the Fleet version have the transwarp or different boff layouts, or just enhanced numbers?
I love the ship, I was waiting for a VA upgrade, I'm still using my RA one
Still has built in Transwarp, has the boosted figures, has 4/2/4 console layout, sadly it still has that darned ensign engineer boff slot which I think should always have been science.
Assault cruiser had Uni Lt and a tac ens
4/3/4 same as the Excel
The K'tinga is just as old as the Excelsior, if not older and yet it is still in use and even has a Fleet Upgrade. I think it makes sense.
It is T3, I still want ens uni/sci though
Fleet Assault Cruiser
Costs 20,000 Fleet Credits, 4 fleet ship modules, and 1 military requisition.
Only 1 fleet ship module if you have purchased the Sovereign refit.
Requires Shipyard tier 5.
FAC is T5, FE is T3
No, the Fleet Assault Cruiser is T5, the Fleet Excelsior is T3.
What really boggles my mind is why the Excelsior continues to be improved at the same rate as the Sovereign...
That's easy, the Excelsior's sheer awesomeness of course...
must be plenty sitting around in mothballs just waiting to be recommissioned
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EDIT: Not to mention the Refited Excelsior class in ST: DS9 Paradise Lost was expected to blow the Defiant out of the sky if it hadn't had a little old fashion armor installed under the table.
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It's also about 120 years old, about 90 years older than the Sovereign, which was the most advanced cruiser design of its time, and it recently got a Refit based on Odyssey's tech... why the newer design (a newer Enterprise design) is relegated to second fiddle to the old one is alien to me. I just don't understand the attention the Excelsior gets compared to my favorite Enterprise, I guess...
EDIT: I agree 100% that the Oddy should be something special, 45.5k hull and 1.25 shield mod would go a long way to that (and maybe a hanger that can only equip repair drones).
EDIT2: If you think about it, the Vesta (as in the Vesta was introduced years ago in SF) was a testbed for modern ships, including the Oddy. Give the Oddy a 10% hull and shield buff and give it a full hanger bay.
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Like trhrangerxml I'm an Excel fanboy. It's a beautiful, elegantly less-is-more design that hits me dead center in the nostalgia spot. I never felt "at home" in an STO ship until I was flying one.
Calling me biased would be entirely fair and accurate, but STO is already filled with stuff that either doesn't make in-universe sense or bends/breaks canon for the sake of keeping gameplay interesting, so keeping an older ship around at a higher competitive level than it realistically maybe should be is not really an issue IMO. And even if it was, it still wouldn't be a serious one by a long stretch.
a) I really could not care less about the constant ******** over the Excel's relevance. These are typically the same people who whine about there being no Tier 5 Connie, so you know, remove the beam from your own eye and all that. Also she's extremely beautiful and I will not hear a bad word against her.
b) While a Uni Ensign would make this utterly perfect, it's not required and the prospective version on Tribble is already amazing. I couldn't be happier really, especially since I never thought they'd make this ship.
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EDIT: I'm perfectly happy with the current Tribble build!
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The thing with the Excelsior though I suppose is it was already too close to perfect I mean you make the ensign uni and the boff layout is perfect for a cruiser, 4/3/3 console layout is also perfectly good for a cruiser, either of those would make people question other cruisers, both makes it a no brainer...
Still with a 4/2/4 console layout I really don't see the harm in ensign uni
Oh, sure, because the Enterprise B totally wasn't an Enterprise.