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4 new fleet ships on tribble

dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited November 2012 in PvP Gameplay
from the tribble patch notes
Updated the visual appearance of all of the Breen ships.

breen ship, cruiser most likely, being the winter holiday ship confirmed


Fleet Assault Cruiser
Costs 20,000 Fleet Credits, 4 fleet ship modules, and 1 military requisition.
Only 1 fleet ship module if you have purchased the Sovereign refit.
Requires Shipyard tier 5.

its hilarious that this ship needs a tier 5 ship yard, its hardly worthy of it. the vorcha will forever be 4x beter becaase of its great turn rate, and DHC use. overly tactical heavy fed cruisers that turn like TRIBBLE and cant mount more heavy weapons are pointless. that might be different if torps worked differently, and werent so dipendent on shield faceings being down to do anything.

Fleet Advanced Heavy Cruiser Retrofit
Costs 20,000 FC + 5 fleet modules + 1 military requisition.
1 fleet ship module if you have purchased an Excelsior.
Requires Shipyard tier 3.

the first thing im gonna do after the batch drops on holodeck is get this

Fleet B'rel Bird-of-Prey
Costs 20,000 FC + 5 fleet modules + 1 military requisition.
1 fleet module if you have purchased the B'rel refit.
Requires shipyard tier 5.

i know you just made some of the hard core KDF players VERY happy with this. tier 5... to bad no one will be able to get it for quite a wile though. finally a kdf ship that can begotten for 1 fleet module

Varanus fleet support vessel
Cost 20,000 FC + 4 fleet modules + 1 military requisition.
1 fleet module if you have purchased a Varanus.
Requires shipyard tier 3.

a fleet varanus? well, advantage is it can be had with 1 fleet module, but its also got very poor movement stats, and a lower shield mod then fed sci ships. its always been a bad combination. a more user friendly ship would have been a more agile lower tier gorn ship. but i guess you would have to pay more for it. at least theres a fleet kdf sci ship now.
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  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    so the fleet assault cruiser will have the same boff layout as the regent? Or will it have the same stats as before on tribble?
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  • mandoknight89mandoknight89 Member Posts: 1,687 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    And has anyone looked at the Fleet Excelsior's stats vs the Fleet Sovereign's? Are they still determined to make the Sovereign play second fiddle to the Excelsior?
  • p2wsucksp2wsucks Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    The Fleet B'rel could have potential depending on how it's layed out, I'll reserve comment until specifics are known.

    Ditto of your remarks regarding the movement of the KDF Fleet Sci addition.

    What gets me though and is sliight off topic, they still haven't mentioned the Boff exploit fix. This would be the 2nd patch after the fix was said to be in the pipeline which went w/o a fix. Why, would I spend any resources on anything which requires someone to have purchased an item (me or via dilithium exchange) if they aren't going to fix significantly broken mechanics in a timely manner?
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited November 2012

    i know you just made some of the hard core KDF players VERY happy with this. tier 5... to bad no one will be able to get it for quite a wile though. finally a kdf ship that can begotten for 1 fleet module

    a fleet varanus? well, advantage is it can be had with 1 fleet module, but its also got very poor movement stats, and a lower shield mod then fed sci ships. its always been a bad combination. a more user friendly ship would have been a more agile lower tier gorn ship. but i guess you would have to pay more for it. at least theres a fleet kdf sci ship now.

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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    p2wsucks wrote: »
    What gets me though and is sliight off topic, they still haven't mentioned the Boff exploit fix. This would be the 2nd patch after the fix was said to be in the pipeline which went w/o a fix. Why, would I spend any resources on anything which requires someone to have purchased an item (me or via dilithium exchange) if they aren't going to fix significantly broken mechanics in a timely manner?

    i dont think they mention exploit fixes, TBR wasn't mentioned when it was fixed. theres a lot of stealth fixes in these patches
  • p2wsucksp2wsucks Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    i dont think they mention exploit fixes, TBR wasn't mentioned when it was fixed. theres a lot of stealth fixes in these patches

    You're probably right on that, but given the very public nature of this exploit (even a Dev claiming this wasn't an exploit and they're not going to enforce ToS regarding people using it) I'd think they'd have made an exception if for no other reason than people could test it to make sure the fix works on tribble.
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  • playhard88playhard88 Member Posts: 733 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Fleet B'rel = Best ship in the game, i want one!

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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    wait... the excelsior and the brel cost 5 fleet mods, unless you bought the prior version. 4 was already highway robbery for a non account unlock ship, christ
  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    wait... the excelsior and the brel cost 5 fleet mods, unless you bought the prior version. 4 was already highway robbery for a non account unlock ship, christ


    Not really- the c-store B'rel is 2000 zen IIRC, so this upgrade without purchase of the c-store ship would be half the price of the c-store ship, with all the goodies plus some. for a single account unlock- no too shabby.
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    Not really- the c-store B'rel is 2000 zen IIRC, so this upgrade without purchase of the c-store ship would be half the price of the c-store ship, with all the goodies plus some. for a single account unlock- no too shabby.

    4 fleet mods =2000 zen though. this is a single character ship that costs more then that!
  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    4 fleet mods =2000 zen though. this is a single character ship that costs more then that!

    :O
    sorry, had 250 on the brain.
    Your right- 2500 zen for a single toon unlock is a bit steep, prolly why I havent bought that Fl. Somraw yet.

    So buy the c-store B'Rel (for the account unlock) and 1 module, it'll still equal 2500 zen either way.
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  • jkstocbrjkstocbr Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Even though I wont get these ships, it's great to see that they are adding fleet ships :D

    ... Battle cloak please ;)
  • shookyangshookyang Member Posts: 1,122
    edited November 2012
    Is it a Fleet B'rel Retrofit or a Fleet B'rel?

    If it's the latter, I'll pass.

    I love my Enhanced Battle Cloak and torpedo boat too much to care about a standard Fleet B'rel.
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    ship stats

    fleet excelsior 42900 hull, 1.1 shield mod, same stations, 4 tac consoles

    fleet sov 42900 hull, 1.1 shield mod, regent stations, 4 tac consoles

    fleet brel 24750 hull, shield mod .88, 4 eng consoles. yes, it has enhanced BC. 4 eng? really?

    fleet varanus- 31350 hull, 1.32 shield mod, 11 turn, same ens eng, 3rd tac console. a 5th sci would have been nice, like the fleet deap space.
  • plox21plox21 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    4 fleet mods =2000 zen though. this is a single character ship that costs more then that!

    you forgot that you can buy fleet modules on exchange for 5 milion per module(not 100% sure in price)
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    plox21 wrote: »
    you forgot that you can buy fleet modules on exchange for 5 milion per module(not 100% sure in price)

    theres always the EC option, but regardless someone payed ZEN for it
  • eisenw0lfeisenw0lf Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    fleet brel 24750 hull, shield mod .88, 4 eng consoles. yes, it has enhanced BC. 4 eng? really?

    My thoughts exactly. A BoP with slightly better tanking (LOL) capabilities? Oh god, why cryptic? WHY? Just give this ship a science console if you guys don't want to make a copy of the Fleet Hoh'SuS layout. But 4 engineering consoles on the shipclass with the lowest hullpoints in the game is a total waste, it's not like it could survive a prolonged fight anyway.
  • shookyangshookyang Member Posts: 1,122
    edited November 2012
    Seems rather like they want to kill their sales on one ship for another in regards to the B'rel Retrofit.

    At least with other Fleet variants, you can equip the T5 console on the new ship. The B'rel Retrofit has no console. Giving the Fleet variant an Enhanced Battle Cloak makes it pointless to get the Retrofit.

    As for 4th Eng console, I could move one of my universal consoles to the 4th Eng slot and free up a Sci console slot to put in some more Sci consoles or more universal consoles.
  • redrickyredricky Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    4 eng? really?
    Finally I can slot that 4th RCS.
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  • ukdivefireukdivefire Member Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    theres always the EC option, but regardless someone payed ZEN for it

    This may seem a redundant question, but can you get fleet modules on Tribble? I'm not seeing a purchase option on the Zstore there.
  • aetam1aetam1 Member Posts: 228 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    theres always the EC option, but regardless someone payed ZEN for it

    True, someone payed ZEN for the modules. But I don't see your point. If nobody would spend ZEN the game would die.
    In the end we have the option to buy the ship for 2500 ZEN or something about 25mil EC (or combine both options). We can also get ZEN via dilithium pretty cheap at the moment.

    While 2500 ZEN seems a bit much, they kind of had to make it a bit more expensive than the normal version. Let's assume they sold the new b'rel for 4 modules and 1 if you have the old one. Now that would mean the fleet version (yes only a single unlock) costs the same as the normal one. So anybody who got the b'rel already might feel cheated, because he got the inferior product for the same price. And he still has to pay to get an upgrade.
    Now with 5 modules, buying a normal b'rel and a fleet version costs the same as only a fleet version. So everyone who already got one will be happy.

    Also the EC price is about 25mil. Now that is still way cheaper than a lockbox ship, which also is a single char unlock. Further it is cheaper than a DHC MK XII [acc]x3

    Cryptics ship pricing is pretty high in general. But with the system they are using so far that price seems the only logical conclusion. And thanks to people who are offering ZEN stuff in the exchange or are selling ZEN via dilithium we can still get everything without paying anything.

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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    ukdivefire wrote: »
    This may seem a redundant question, but can you get fleet modules on Tribble? I'm not seeing a purchase option on the Zstore there.

    no you cant, i checked. but it doesn't mater though, your fleet isnt on tribble with its ship yard
  • ukdivefireukdivefire Member Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    no you cant, i checked. but it doesn't mater though, your fleet isnt on tribble with its ship yard

    Darn :/ Thanks for confirming that. I joined a fleet with tier 3 shipyard unlocked on Tribble with the hope of seeing the Fleet Excelsior at 1 Fleet module, but no luck there, still 5 (yes I own the tier 5 Excelsior). Seems testing these ships may be a little tricky.
  • thegrimcorsairthegrimcorsair Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    1 Eng for the B'rel keeps it from being 1000% better than the Ho'sus, letting it keep its niche.

    Also, EBC+Plasma/Transphasic torps can get pretty silly, powering up those weapons in its hands is probably not a great idea.

    Is it too much to ask for a Fleet Sovvy with the Sovvy's BOff layout? I mean, yes, you can get *some* mileage out of the Regent as a 2 Aux2Bat ship (for PvE, that's non-stop FAW+Torp Spread+DEM3+Beta/Delta 2 goodness) but c'mon, for PvP that BOff layout is terribad. Not being able to run Warp Plasma+DEM+RSP at their global cooldowns sucks, and you don't even get the extra Engineering team from the Excelsior to laugh off VM.

    FAW and Arrays both being steaming piles of mediocrity for damage output doesn't help in the least.
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  • shimmerlessshimmerless Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Oh Excel I've missed you sooo much old girl. Past lovers always return. I will grab two bottles of Bacardi and sip them from a glass glazed in pub tears, sitting on your beautiful long nacelles and swinging my legs about into space. You will hum with the mechanical strength of a 10-console, 1.1 shield mod (8 turn) god and all will be right with the universe.
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    1 Eng for the B'rel keeps it from being 1000% better than the Ho'sus, letting it keep its niche.

    Also, EBC+Plasma/Transphasic torps can get pretty silly, powering up those weapons in its hands is probably not a great idea.

    Is it too much to ask for a Fleet Sovvy with the Sovvy's BOff layout? I mean, yes, you can get *some* mileage out of the Regent as a 2 Aux2Bat ship (for PvE, that's non-stop FAW+Torp Spread+DEM3+Beta/Delta 2 goodness) but c'mon, for PvP that BOff layout is terribad. Not being able to run Warp Plasma+DEM+RSP at their global cooldowns sucks, and you don't even get the extra Engineering team from the Excelsior to laugh off VM.

    FAW and Arrays both being steaming piles of mediocrity for damage output doesn't help in the least.

    the fleet heavy cruiser already serves as the fleet sov basically. and wile it doesn't quite have 10% better stats, it turns 1 better.
  • thegrimcorsairthegrimcorsair Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    the fleet heavy cruiser already serves as the fleet sov basically. and wile it doesn't quite have 10% better stats, it turns 1 better.

    True enough, I just really like the look of the Sovvy. Dat Regent though... what a POS. The only reason to buy it is the torp. $25 for a torpedo with 180 degree firing arc.
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  • orondisorondis Member Posts: 1,447 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    For a few seconds I got really excited about the fleet regent and excelsior, then I remembered they're "DPS" Fed cruisers. I'd love them for PvE and a more Trek feel, but I'll not bring them within an inch of PvP unless I get seriously bored.
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  • shimmerlessshimmerless Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    orondis wrote: »
    For a few seconds I got really excited about the fleet regent and excelsior, then I remembered they're "DPS" Fed cruisers. I'd love them for PvE and a more Trek feel, but I'll not bring them within an inch of PvP unless I get seriously bored.

    That's strange of you to say in particular Daizen, if you throw an Eng into a destroyer-type 'scort like the Batman boat you're basically getting the same result as a Taxcelsior.
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    orondis wrote: »
    For a few seconds I got really excited about the fleet regent and excelsior, then I remembered they're "DPS" Fed cruisers. I'd love them for PvE and a more Trek feel, but I'll not bring them within an inch of PvP unless I get seriously bored.

    singles, DEM3, and 2 AtB with tech doffs and they will indeed be DPS cruisers. excelsior mostly, the regent cant pull it off as well.
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