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tajrek
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Im just curious on opinions I can only get one ship as thats all the zen I have I am leaning towards either the Tac on Engineering Vesta . I figure Engineering would be better survivability and Tac just for the extra tac console but Im still torn. Either way im not going to use the console they have for the for the tac but I might use the engineering one....
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Notice I say "close" I did not say "equal to" in terms of DPS.
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It has 4 tac consoles and SA...only two...three if you want to count the bug that have 5 tac consoles. If there is anything that would meet or beat a escort its gonna be the tac vesta...just to bad doesn't have 10 weapon/5 auxiliary power.
It'd require about 7 or 8 stacks of SA to equal an escort in firepower, not counting the deflector phaser, and each stack of it takes a minute of keeping the enemy in your forward arc, so only really large enemies will it be able to catch up/surpass a 4 tac escort. Weapon power isn't such a big deal with 3x Aux DHCs Fore(I think you can just dismiss/reclaim to get three of them if you have only one Vesta model, I pulled one off each model), and the Aventine's +5 wep power and the Borg console's +5 seems to be enough to handle the rear turrets, with Warp Core Potential skill factored in.
I would not be so sure about that. I have a tac captain in an MVAM that does on average between 7 and 8k dps with alpha strike bursts upwards of 20k dps (rarely ever am outdps'd even by other escorts) and I just purchased the vesta pack and set up my sci captain in the tactical vesta and he's able to do on average 4 to 5k and in a few instances 6k and he's using regular player made mk xi phaser turrets and phaser relays while my tac captain has Complete mkxii borg weaponry ect.... I can't wait to set up my tac capt in the vesta and see what he's capable of
Could you tell me more about the Fleet Sci consoles? I finally might have something to spend all my fleet credits and dil on (been avoiding paying $5 for an FSM to buy a Fleet Armitage :P ).
Also, your suggestion sounds cool, esp. with the gimmicks you're talking about. I used to main SVs in my Engi main before I started running STFs (then I shamefully went full-escort).
But I'm sooo tempted by the Engi Vesta's look! Grrr, I wish they still sold ship skins so I could pick which I wanted.
What's the Engi console like? I heard it's like a Polarize Hull that reflects torps? Is that kind of ability too situational for PVE (I don't PVP). Does it reflect isometric charges or the Borg bullsh*t heavy torp?
Here ya go: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=6245491#post6245491
It looks like purple slightly more glowy Polarize Hull. It does work on high-yield torps, but I don't think it works on Isometric Charge. The biggest problem in PvE is that it shoves enemies away, similar to Tractor Repulsors, which can make people angry if you trigger it at the wrong time and shove something out of their range. That also means your cannons will have less effect on them if you're shooting them. It lacks the kinetic damage of Tractor Repulsors, meaning it's pure defense/kinetic payback.
Hmm, bummer. Never used tractor repulsors before, and kinetic payback aside, it looks like the console's a non-starter, until I start rolling a beam boat at least.
Maybe I will decide on the Sci variant after all. Arrgh, but I love the Engi look!
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If you're doing that it should be worth mentioning (as others have said above) that the Quantum Field Phaser's damage is highly dependent on both your Aux power and your Particle Generators skill. If you don't have enough points in that (you might not, as a Tac captain), you'll be doing pitiful damage.
2. Fermion is the best console from the rest.
3. If you plan on a DPS build then you need all three for the AUX cannons.
I bought all 3 and i did not regret it.
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Hmm while I noticed that I could use multiples on the aux cannons, I had thought that would be a bad idea because by having one aux and one drawing on weapons (and one quantum torp) I could spread the power drain around. However, while the drain is limited that way, it means I have to keep both aux and weapon power up high to begin with. Since I need to have high aux for sci powers anyway maybe I should switch over to all aux, especially on my sci guy.
Maybe I will do something else for my tac guy. Maybe I wont have cannons at all on my eng guy. who knows.
Just something you should be aware of. You should go all or nothing. All Aux Cannons or no Aux Cannons. Think about it it this way. If you run 2 standard DHCs at 125 power, each cannon will be firing at roughly 95-100 power by the end of their cycles. If you run 2 Aux cannons, same thing. NOW if you used your one aux one DHC one quantum, at most you will have each cannon firing at around 63-78 power (depending on your WCP and Power Bonuses). You will actually lose out on DPS. Quite a lot.
So in that instance, all or nothing works better. But this is ONLY considering forward weapons. Depending on what your rear weapons are, maybe a hybrid power setup is better, maybe not.
Users choice, but I thought I would put up those little tidbits.
Not entirely sure. But I figure the best choice would be weapons that don't use energy, like Torps or Mines. But I saw someone say they use a 2 mine 1 BA setup, and only have the BA for SS targeting. Which kind of makes sense. I personally would use a trico mine launcher, a transphasic cluster torp, and a phaser BA for SS targeting. But I don't own a vesta, so I can't test it and let you know how it goes.
I usually use Phaser Turrets. Yes, they starve a bit on power during CRF/CSV if I put everything into Aux/Shields, but the new Adapted sets will soon help with that. The set that the Borg console and cutting beam is in has a nice power proc, and the further away Adapted MACO (basically KHG set) will help all the time. There's also the option of mines/torps rear.
please can you help me with a skill plan using http://www.stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/
i use all 3 console and im a sci captain i know Starship Particle Generators are useful for the 3 consoles
i dont play pvp, just pve
thank you
I don't fly science ships. I don't know the first thing about setting them up. I fly cruisers/battlecruisers and escorts/raptors with tac and engi captains. Talk to andoriansaurus if you want a good sci setup.