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Borticus, the Starship Sensors Skill...

naldorannaldoran Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited November 2012 in PvP Gameplay
Are you aware, that contrary to the skill description, it does in fact not buff either Sensor Scan or Fire on My Mark? Either the skill is bugged, or the the description should the altered to remove inaccurate information. These powers are listed under the "examples include" bit in the skill description, and I"ve had to tell a lot of people that their belief in the skill was mistaken.

Based on testing the debuff values with six ranks in the skill versus no ranks in the skill; same ship, same character, same consoles.
12th Fleet | Sad Pandas | Starfleet M.A.C.O.
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  • fakehilbertfakehilbert Member Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Maybe it only affects the stealth/perception part? Or is that one unaffected as well?
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Maybe it only affects the stealth/perception part? Or is that one unaffected as well?

    That's the only part it says it affects - so if it's not affecting it, that's kind of off.

    The Amicus list has it affecting Sensor Scan, base Stealth detection, says it didn't do anything noticeable for the Tach stuff, and does not mention FoMM.
  • dalnar83dalnar83 Member Posts: 2,420 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    It affects the stealth detection part only of FOMM and sensor scan, also beta/delta debuff.
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  • naldorannaldoran Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    dalnar83 wrote: »
    It affects the stealth detection part only of FOMM and sensor scan, also beta/delta debuff.
    If it does affect stealth detection, it doesn't do it very much; my testing has found that there's a difference of less than 2km between having four +sensor consoles and none when it comes to detection range. It would be useful to clarify this in the descriptive text, since the ground skills actually can enchance the debuff strength; this is an inconsistency that should be noted so players are aware of it.
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  • hurleybirdhurleybird Member Posts: 909
    edited November 2012
    Hilbert, Naz -- Forget about this game. Come play Mechwarrior!
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    naldoran wrote: »
    If it does affect stealth detection, it doesn't do it very much; my testing has found that there's a difference of less than 2km between having four +sensor consoles and none when it comes to detection range. It would be useful to clarify this in the descriptive text, since the ground skills actually can enchance the debuff strength; this is an inconsistency that should be noted so players are aware of it.

    Starship Sensors
    Improves Starship Stealth Detection
    This skill improves starship sensor abilities allowing you to see cloaked enemy targets sooner.

    Is what the skill says for me.
  • naldorannaldoran Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Fire on My Mark is listed as an example, and that skill only affects targets which have already been decloaked, implying that there is more to the skill than that. This should perhaps simply result in some text being cleared up, but I've met a great many players who believed (wrongly) that the skill affected the debuff strength; the perception exists, ergo people are getting confused somewhere...
    12th Fleet | Sad Pandas | Starfleet M.A.C.O.
  • dalnar83dalnar83 Member Posts: 2,420 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Actually sensors do greattly improve the detection range - on science ships. For other ships is meh...but on my nebula in Ker'Rat..let's say I see even behind the corners...
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  • thegreatfuzzythegreatfuzzy Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    With the skill tree revamp Sensor Scan & Fire on My Mark got a "Sensors Skill" dependence, but the damage resistance component haven't been affected. Instead, both damage resistance component got an 75% boost.

    Photonic Fleet is an another example, but instand of 75% ability boost it only get 50% Boost.
  • naz4naz4 Member Posts: 1,373 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    hurleybird wrote: »
    Hilbert, Naz -- Forget about this game. Come play Mechwarrior!

    What? Thats Nald....lol
  • maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    With the skill tree revamp Sensor Scan & Fire on My Mark got a "Sensors Skill" dependence, but the damage resistance component haven't been affected. Instead, both damage resistance component got an 75% boost.

    Photonic Fleet is an another example, but instand of 75% ability boost it only get 50% Boost.

    but sensor scan itself got a massive nerf on its defense reduction.
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  • thishorizonthishorizon Member Posts: 1,158
    edited November 2012
    *lets a little hax out*

    i still spec into sensors for fomm.

    the key is to use it with beta.....

    or...use delta and wait for the guy to target you.

    also its great vs bops. a lot of them run just 1 tac team. and it reduces the targets ability to cloak i think....something like that.

    i have no logs to prove this....but things blow up quicker if i got 6 in sensors.

    and remember...always in between tac team cycles people.

    have fun kill bad guys

    ps, dont go giving the hax out to everyone.
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