Ok, season 7 is going to land soon and TRIBBLE up/fix (depending on your position) aquiring STF gear.
I'm looking to upgrade my Vo'Quv PvE build - I have been lucky enough to bag both the HG and Omega mk12 shields, and I got a prototype engine tech yesterday in CSE, and a rare deflector tech sat in the bank. At the moment I'm using 3 piece borg + HG shield.
Currently I'm running polaron weapons, but the damage is a bit lacking - enter stage left my cunning plan to combine polarized disruptors with the tet glider 2 piece bonus from the Omega set, to give me (hopefully) a triple proc build that will be a bit more effective, allowing me to strip shields quicker and debuff hull resistance to maximise torp damage from my advanced BOPs.
I can use either shield to get the 2 piece bonus, and have the tech available to get a three piece combination - I'm pretty sure I'll be stuck with whatever I pick for a good couple of months, so I would really appreciate some advice.
I believe you had a typo and meant to say you were looking to upgrade your PvP gear
From PvE testing on tribble yesterday using 3 part KHG I found out the following:
1. You can use it while in combat.
2. You can use all abilities while it's active.
3. It gives AoE defensive bonus.
4. Not sure on the "stealth" part since there was no one around to test in PvP.
5. I don't know if the "stealth" is based on aux when activate or fluctuates as aux fluctuates since there was no obvious "stealth" listed. But, there was a "stealth detection". This is odd b/c w/cloak you do see what your stealth rating is.
It's hard to say what Tet Glider's usefulness will be, since there's so many changes to shields and procs added which repair shields from consoles and reputation system. But, for a carrier I'd lean toward KHG set espcially if you plan on using mines as I assume it would stack w/thier built in MES.
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On the other hand, on a VoQuv and if you are willing to run Flow caps consoles, Tetryon Glider might be worth a 2pc Omega/KG shield combination.
KHG gives a bonus to torpedo damage... does your Carrier use torpedos?
Ultimately, though, you will just gave to test it for yourself. ^^
As a Sci Captain, I am already specced for flow caps & particles, I don't use any torpedoes on the Vo'Quv, the BOP pets provide torp damage - and I'm not convinced that the KHG set will buff the BOPs torps.
As a Sci Captain, I am already specced for flow caps & particles, I don't use any torpedoes on the Vo'Quv, the BOP pets provide torp damage - and I'm not convinced that the KHG set will buff the BOPs torps.
Depending on the Pet torp type if it's destructable the MEF from the 3 part KHG set will boosts its defense making it harder to bring down before it reaches its target.
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I should mention I didn't have anyone to test with to see if MEFs stacked with each other in both stealth and defensive bonuses. So, I'm still working on PvP potential for the 3 part set. Given the shield procs I don't know if Tet Glider will be more needed in PvP. It needs more testing.
Also, I'd put the Ad Frigate ahead of BoP in effective DPS potential if for no other reason than it runs Trics and Cronts.
Again a reminder this is a PvP forum
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I should mention I didn't have anyone to test with to see if MEFs stacked with each other in both stealth and defensive bonuses. So, I'm still working on PvP potential for the 3 part set. Given the shield procs I don't know if Tet Glider will be more needed in PvP. It needs more testing.
Also, I'd put the Ad Frigate ahead of BoP in effective DPS potential if for no other reason than it runs Trics and Cronts.
Again a reminder this is a PvP forum
I can't use the frigates on the Vo'Quv, and I know this is the PvP forum, but in my experience the people to ask for advice about game mechanics are the ones that PvP competitively - they are always best informed on what works well and what is broken - if I wanted advice on building a rainbow cruiser, I'll go ask in the PvE forum
I think the Omega shield is kind of lack luster compared to the MACO and KHG options so it would be Omega engine(fastest in game according to some) and Omega deflector (highest damage lowest toughness deflector) if I wanted the tetryon glider.
That said my experience with tetryon glider has indicated it's not worth using. Shield drain effects are highly resisted right now and the bonus to DPS from the drain will probably be less than being a kilometer or so closer to a shielded target.
I think the Omega shield is kind of lack luster compared to the MACO and KHG options so it would be Omega engine(fastest in game according to some) and Omega deflector (highest damage lowest toughness deflector) if I wanted the tetryon glider.
That said my experience with tetryon glider has indicated it's not worth using. Shield drain effects are highly resisted right now and the bonus to DPS from the drain will probably be less than being a kilometer or so closer to a shielded target.
I haven't tested in awhile, but last I checked NPC, pet, console, and Tet glider effects were less resistable. Also, Tet glider damage wasn't range effected. Although shield distro and borg sets are being adjusted there are consoles and reputation bonuses which may more than make up for those loses meaning every bit of shield stripping will help.
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I can't use the frigates on the Vo'Quv, and I know this is the PvP forum, but in my experience the people to ask for advice about game mechanics are the ones that PvP competitively - they are always best informed on what works well and what is broken - if I wanted advice on building a rainbow cruiser, I'll go ask in the PvE forum
Yeah, I was speaking to the general observation about BoP pets being best DPS.
Also, may want to frame build questions generally rather than PvE specific in this forum. Other posters won't nudge as gently I have been about asking advise for PvE builds here given the tention between some PvEers and some PvPers.
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Also, may want to frame build questions generally rather than PvE specific in this forum. Other posters won't nudge as gently I have been about asking advise for PvE builds here given the tention between some PvEers and some PvPers.
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A bit of forum PvP never upset me, and thanks for taking the time to reply to my question.
I find the combination of KHG shields with Omega Deflector and Engines to be fairly effective. Make sure you grab the Borg Console, as well.
This setup will get you hyper-impulse engines, good shields, the tet glider, boost to targeting (important in PvP) and useful sci systems. It's a reliable build.
I run a 2 KHG + Omega engine setup on my Hegh'ta, because it's specc'd towards large amounts of spike damage (combining BO2 with HY3 quantum torps), and the 25% boost to the torps given by the KHG set is worth it.
My PvP toon is Krov, of The House of Snoo. Beware of my Hegh'ta of doom.
I think you confuse the frigate with the skull fighters.
The skull fighters can only be equiped on the Karfi, B'roth birds only on the VoQuv'. Other fighters,drones,ships can be equiped on every ship with a hangar.
You can potentially make good use of KHG on a carrier but it depends on what you're going for. I'd say it's much more viable on the Vo'quv than something like a Kar'fi. It basically comes down to what rank of heals you'll be running/specced into.
This is assuming you'll ever use this for PvP, in PvE you can just throw on whatever, it doesn't really make a difference.
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From PvE testing on tribble yesterday using 3 part KHG I found out the following:
1. You can use it while in combat.
2. You can use all abilities while it's active.
3. It gives AoE defensive bonus.
4. Not sure on the "stealth" part since there was no one around to test in PvP.
5. I don't know if the "stealth" is based on aux when activate or fluctuates as aux fluctuates since there was no obvious "stealth" listed. But, there was a "stealth detection". This is odd b/c w/cloak you do see what your stealth rating is.
It's hard to say what Tet Glider's usefulness will be, since there's so many changes to shields and procs added which repair shields from consoles and reputation system. But, for a carrier I'd lean toward KHG set espcially if you plan on using mines as I assume it would stack w/thier built in MES.
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As a Sci Captain, I am already specced for flow caps & particles, I don't use any torpedoes on the Vo'Quv, the BOP pets provide torp damage - and I'm not convinced that the KHG set will buff the BOPs torps.
Depending on the Pet torp type if it's destructable the MEF from the 3 part KHG set will boosts its defense making it harder to bring down before it reaches its target.
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Also, I'd put the Ad Frigate ahead of BoP in effective DPS potential if for no other reason than it runs Trics and Cronts.
Again a reminder this is a PvP forum
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I can't use the frigates on the Vo'Quv, and I know this is the PvP forum, but in my experience the people to ask for advice about game mechanics are the ones that PvP competitively - they are always best informed on what works well and what is broken - if I wanted advice on building a rainbow cruiser, I'll go ask in the PvE forum
That said my experience with tetryon glider has indicated it's not worth using. Shield drain effects are highly resisted right now and the bonus to DPS from the drain will probably be less than being a kilometer or so closer to a shielded target.
I haven't tested in awhile, but last I checked NPC, pet, console, and Tet glider effects were less resistable. Also, Tet glider damage wasn't range effected. Although shield distro and borg sets are being adjusted there are consoles and reputation bonuses which may more than make up for those loses meaning every bit of shield stripping will help.
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"Sumlobus@****: your mums eat Iced Targ Poo"
C&H Fed banter
Yeah, I was speaking to the general observation about BoP pets being best DPS.
Also, may want to frame build questions generally rather than PvE specific in this forum. Other posters won't nudge as gently I have been about asking advise for PvE builds here given the tention between some PvEers and some PvPers.
Random Quote from Kerrat
"Sumlobus@****: your mums eat Iced Targ Poo"
C&H Fed banter
I'll survive
A bit of forum PvP never upset me, and thanks for taking the time to reply to my question.
This setup will get you hyper-impulse engines, good shields, the tet glider, boost to targeting (important in PvP) and useful sci systems. It's a reliable build.
I run a 2 KHG + Omega engine setup on my Hegh'ta, because it's specc'd towards large amounts of spike damage (combining BO2 with HY3 quantum torps), and the 25% boost to the torps given by the KHG set is worth it.
I think you confuse the frigate with the skull fighters.
The skull fighters can only be equiped on the Karfi, B'roth birds only on the VoQuv'. Other fighters,drones,ships can be equiped on every ship with a hangar.
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This is assuming you'll ever use this for PvP, in PvE you can just throw on whatever, it doesn't really make a difference.
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