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Vesta will have carrier bay

levi3levi3 Member Posts: 1,663 Arc User
edited October 2012 in Federation Discussion
Ok the official Blog announcing the new OP Fed Multi Mission Science Vessel "VESTA" comes out later this week.

There is already talk with tribble supporting evidence that she will be a Sci-crusier Hybrid, with sensor analysis, sub-system targeting, front loading Dual heavy cannons, AND news today she could very likely have a Hanger Bay - on a crusier - crazy I know - but the fighters show up as slotted for it.


So I just wanted everyone who is hiding is some corner of the Universe who has not Heard for 6 months that Vesta was coming to know.

Therefore there should be no surprised "they got another ship" KDF players.
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  • khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,876 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    What's the point of having subsystem targeting when you're devoting whole weapon slots to cannons-- Oh right, Kinetic Cutting Beam in the aft slot.

    I think you're wrong about the fighters, though. Stop being so alarmist-- oh wait, you're levi who hates vesta. :P

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  • levi3levi3 Member Posts: 1,663 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    khayuung wrote: »
    What's the point of having subsystem targeting when you're devoting whole weapon slots to cannons-- Oh right, Kinetic Cutting Beam in the aft slot.

    I think you're wrong about the fighters, though. Stop being so alarmist-- oh wait, you're levi who hates vesta. :P

    I think the Fighters thing is weird - Everyone knows I love the Vesta.

    I was not the one who found out about the hanger bay on the Vesta today - someone else on tribble noticed that the Multi mission sci vessel - AKA - Vesta was slotted to have a single hanger bay. There is a thread about in in the Tribble testing section.

    This thread is just to get ahead of anyone else who for some crazy reason does not know about the Vesta coming next month and starts another "Fed's get another ship" thread - in a few days when the official blog comes out(according to Branflakes)
  • khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,876 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Hmm... Okay, given your track record, you're tsundere for Vesta. :P

    I just caught up with that thread... and I'm already glad I've not bought a HEC yet.

    Why the hell is a 24th century prototype more powerful than a 25th century massproduction flagship? Are we in anime Star Trek? :confused:

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  • shimmerlessshimmerless Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    khayuung wrote: »
    Hmm... Okay, given your track record, you're tsundere for Vesta. :P

    Don't hit me where it hurts :(
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  • maddog0000doommaddog0000doom Member Posts: 1,017 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    feds always get a new ship nothing new about that fact im sure in a year or two we will get one.

    so far its been fed fed fed fed kdf fed fed fed fed kdf. not counting lockbox of course.
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  • khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,876 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    shimmerless wrote: »
    Don't hit me where it hurts :(

    Aw, sorry... Maybe try picturing Miku in a video that has her acting as Leeta while working at the dabo tables?

    "Spin the leek, and win!"

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  • bubblygumsworthbubblygumsworth Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Pros - Something new to blow up.
    Cons - More stupid tractor pets.
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  • khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,876 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    bubblygumsworth wrote: »
    Pros - Something new to blow up.
    Cons - More stupid tractor pets.

    Oh tractors will be the lesser of your worries...

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  • shimmerlessshimmerless Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    khayuung wrote: »
    Aw, sorry... Maybe try picturing Miku in a video that has her acting as Leeta while working at the dabo tables?

    "Spin the leek, and win!"

    :D

    <-- Totally loco over Luka. :3

    Until Rin drives through a quantum anomaly and steamrolls the whole affair? :D But yeah, I can dream...

    (I would be down for making Luka a Dabo girl if it meant seeing more fish-shaped imprints on the faces of rowdy Klingons)
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  • dalnar83dalnar83 Member Posts: 2,420 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Well fed players like to buy ships. Hence why they get them. Beside, I think Klingons in generally have better choices in fleet ships, if we compare fed fleet ships to fleet Negh'Var, Fleet Vor'Cha, Fleet K't'inga, klingons have at least reason to build starbases :P

    Well, until some cruiser in lockbox replaces them all of course.
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  • hawks3052hawks3052 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Cryptic does only make Fed side C-Store stuff. KDF always gets the short end of the stick by decree of Grand Federation Emperor DStahl.
  • luxchristianluxchristian Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    khayuung wrote: »
    Hmm... Okay, given your track record, you're tsundere for Vesta. :P


    Why the hell is a 24th century prototype more powerful than a 25th century massproduction flagship? Are we in anime Star Trek? :confused:

    Hahahaha. Yeah, the rule that old prototypes are imba :-P

    Because I don't like the klings aka poor man's space orks, I'm glad that the feds get another ship :P Just joking. I really hope thtat the klings get more skins for their ships. And another HUD color xD
  • carl103carl103 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Guys KDF is dead, be glad they haven't closed shop on you. (i have 3 KDF BTW).
  • redstarsweredstarswe Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Every time KDF gets a new ship these days, the Feds get a variant as well. I mean, we can't leave the poor Feds out. It is a shame it doesn't work both ways, but then again there might be a KDF Sci-cruiser in the works as well;)
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  • gypsybladegypsyblade Member Posts: 730 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    redstarswe wrote: »
    Every time KDF gets a new ship these days, the Feds get a variant as well. I mean, we can't leave the poor Feds out. It is a shame it doesn't work both ways, but then again there might be a KDF Sci-cruiser in the works as well;)

    I'd love a Kar'fi variant fed side... unless that's pretty much what the Vesta will be...

    Do wish we'd get more ships KDF side tho...

    There is a bright side as well... eventually all KDF ships will have a Fleet copy..

    Then they'll be nearly forced to come up with new ships for when they add things to the Fleet shipyard.
    levi3 wrote: »

    There is already talk with tribble supporting evidence that she will be a Sci-crusier Hybrid, with sensor analysis, sub-system targeting, front loading Dual heavy cannons, AND news today she could very likely have a Hanger Bay - on a crusier - crazy I know - but the fighters show up as slotted for it.

    The Orion Marauder is a cruiser with a Hangar bay, it can't load DHC.... but if it could... it wouldn't be able to use it very well...
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    khayuung wrote: »
    Hmm... Okay, given your track record, you're tsundere for Vesta. :P

    I just caught up with that thread... and I'm already glad I've not bought a HEC yet.

    Why the hell is a 24th century prototype more powerful than a 25th century massproduction flagship? Are we in anime Star Trek? :confused:

    It's not just prototypes.
    Look at the Excelsior.
    The T3 version (even the old version for energy credits was that way) outperforms the roughly 50 years younger Cheyenne while the T5 version outguns and outmaneuvers a standard Sovereign.
    Of course when you look at the various comments from the DEVs how much they like the Excelsior it becomes pretty clear how ships are balanced in this game.
    It's based on personal preference and little else.
    Since the DEVs have said in the past how much they'd like the Vesta in this game this is not too much of a surprise the ship will be very good.
    Let's see how far they'll go...

    BTW, given comments by Gecko how much he dislikes the Ambassador it's rather clear how useless that ship will be when it comes out.

    With regards to KDF...my guess is there will be zero ships until perhaps mid next year.
  • defalusdefalus Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Given the choices we have in the KDF, we don't really need any new ships. All of our ships perform well and KDF captains are known to generally be better than Fed captains (aka the babies who are defeated by the colour red) and know how to get the most out of their ships.

    Let the Feds get new ships they can buy, they're paying the bills so we can blow them up.:D
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  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Why isn't there a fleet dacoit and fleet karfi?

    It should be easier making kdf ships. I guess it is too hard for cryptic.
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • gypsybladegypsyblade Member Posts: 730 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    chalpen wrote: »
    Why isn't there a fleet dacoit and fleet karfi?

    It should be easier making kdf ships. I guess it is too hard for cryptic.

    Because the standard Kar'fi can still outperform 90% of the Fed Fleet ships in PvE :cool:
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  • levi3levi3 Member Posts: 1,663 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    gypsyblade wrote: »
    Because the standard Kar'fi can still outperform 90% of the Fed Fleet ships in PvE :cool:

    If they had a Klingon ship - AKA - Klingon style ship that performed just like the Kar'fi I would buy it in a second. I just can't come to grips with that design it's too frankenstein. They need a real Klingon C-store ship with the same stats.
  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    gypsyblade wrote: »
    Because the standard Kar'fi can still outperform 90% of the Fed Fleet ships in PvE :cool:

    90 percent of kdf can outperform Feds in space, ground, and have better taste in clothes. They also make better lovers. But that doesn't mean they don't require equal content.
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • shentoshento Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Yeah Umm.. While I have no issues with Starfleet gaining yet another ship, I think the field needs to be seriously balanced here.
    The Orions specialize in strike fighters and the like. With this in mind you would think that the Klingon faction should maintain superiority in Carrier classes. Up to and including deployable fighters on heavy cruiser platforms. If not that, then lets exploit the fact that the Gorn are every bit the advanced technologies equivilant of Starfleet. Bring this to the table in Ernest and lets start seeing some Hybreding of that techno-might in newer Imperial designs.

    *gets down off the soap box*
  • robeasomrobeasom Member Posts: 1,911 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    And As usual the KDF gets Squat
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  • levi3levi3 Member Posts: 1,663 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    shento wrote: »
    Yeah Umm.. While I have no issues with Starfleet gaining yet another ship, I think the field needs to be seriously balanced here.
    The Orions specialize in strike fighters and the like. With this in mind you would think that the Klingon faction should maintain superiority in Carrier classes. Up to and including deployable fighters on heavy cruiser platforms. If not that, then lets exploit the fact that the Gorn are every bit the advanced technologies equivilant of Starfleet. Bring this to the table in Ernest and lets start seeing some Hybreding of that techno-might in newer Imperial designs.

    *gets down off the soap box*

    Well the current evidence that the Vesta will get a Hanger bay for Fighters is past just the rumor stage and actually into the - "is this a design mistake on tribble" stage

    So if it does get fighters - a mid to Heavy Crusier having fighters on the Fed side will mark a definite shift in the move to make Fed ships have multi capibilites.
  • carl103carl103 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    My earlier quick comment not withstanding here's my thought.

    Rumour says that we'll be getting a 3 pack. What if the only tac varient can mount cannons, but only the eng form can mount fighters.

    Another possobillity is that mounting fighter will require a consle, and maybe even the cannons will be handled by an "autocannon" consle.

    Neithier of those scenarios is especially OMG scary. It's the idea of fighters and DHC's as standard on a ship thats likliy to have a better turn rate than any other carrier out there that IS scary.
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Meh. The Vesta been " about to go live" for while now. Its no surprise.

    Is it going to be released on tribble first or straight to store with it?
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    chalpen wrote: »
    Why isn't there a fleet dacoit and fleet karfi?

    It should be easier making kdf ships. I guess it is too hard for cryptic.

    This is what I want as far as new KDF ships go.

    Though I do enjoy my GV PegI'sU.
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  • levi3levi3 Member Posts: 1,663 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    Meh. The Vesta been " about to go live" for while now. Its no surprise.

    Is it going to be released on tribble first or straight to store with it?

    There are supposed to be some people testing her, either a)they can't say a word, or b)it won't be until after the "official" blog post is released this week.

    And all indications are for 1 ship and not a 3 pack as the 1 ship will most likely cost 3000-3500 zen given the costs and hoops they jumped through with the designer.

    A 10 turn same as the Vor'cha is most likely - and a sci cabable, sensor analysis, sub-nuking,dual heavy cannon, tractor spamming captain with any skills we definitely be a threat.

    Sci captains/skills have been nerfed so hard for a long time - it would not surprize me in the least that all sci gets quite a buffing - to make Vesta a even more attractive sale. Not that Cryptic would want extra money - just saying.
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  • bluegeekbluegeek Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I'll admit to being surprised by the idea that the Vesta will have a carrier bay. I didn't expect Cryptic to introduce another carrier-hybrid, at least not yet.

    But admittedly, I wasn't positive what to expect from a ship that's supposed to be a "super science vessel".

    Is there any soft-canon reference to the Vesta having a carrier bay? Or did Cryptic just throw that in?
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