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has qany one purchased an aqurius from fleet base yet

proteus22proteus22 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited October 2012 in Federation Discussion
how does it handle is it able to be used in vault mission or is it considered full size ship
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  • denliner1701denliner1701 Member Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    proteus22 wrote: »
    how does it handle is it able to be used in vault mission or is it considered full size ship

    The Aquarius is basically a "failed" version of a Bird of Prey. It's hull and shield modifiers are super weak and there are much much better options of escorts than this ship. It's a full sized ship so it can't be used for the Vault. Adding the turn rate would help, but I would totally like if the cloaking console worked for the Aquarius, had more durability, or had a Commander/Lt Commander Universal instead of the current one.
  • razellisrazellis Member Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    The Aquarius is basically a "failed" version of a Bird of Prey. It's hull and shield modifiers are super weak and there are much much better options of escorts than this ship. It's a full sized ship so it can't be used for the Vault. Adding the turn rate would help, but I would totally like if the cloaking console worked for the Aquarius, had more durability, or had a Commander/Lt Commander Universal instead of the current one.

    QFT,as is the Aquarius is the weakest T5/T6 ship in the game afaik. I'd like to have one as a toy for PVE/STF playing but 20$ for a ship that can't PVP won't ever come out of my pocket.
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  • elandarkskyelandarksky Member Posts: 1,013 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I'm guessing the Aquaris is there for anyone who is desperate for the -auxiliary craft- of the odessy,

    If the stats are as poor as they appear then of course no one will go for it except people who want it for some odd reason.

    In some ways the boff layout give it a ship with a touch of versatility, but a master of none. (totally against any idea of cloaking it too)
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,557 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    The earliest anyone can get a tier 4 shipyard is early october. Considering that season 6 came out July 12 and it takes 67 days to get 100k XP by doing 1500 XP each day by doing 2 military projects a day and over 2 weeks of stalled military XP since you can't do military projects when upgrading. Therefore, people can just base their opinions of it on the listed stats and not by actually playing them.

    People that want to play the Aquarius will do it because of its look rather than how good their stats are.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    razellis wrote: »
    QFT,as is the Aquarius is the weakest T5/T6 ship in the game afaik. I'd like to have one as a toy for PVE/STF playing but 20$ for a ship that can't PVP won't ever come out of my pocket.

    I have someone in fleet, and extremely experienced PvP player, who insists that the Fleet Aquarius Destroyer (the one we're talking about, right?) is going to be the best ship in the game. Looks paper-thin and weak to me, but hey, I'm just a newbie, really. Interesting to see, though, I'm apparently not the only one with some misgivings about it.
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  • contrarydecisioncontrarydecision Member Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    starkaos wrote: »
    The earliest anyone can get a tier 4 shipyard is early october. Considering that season 6 came out July 12 and it takes 67 days to get 100k XP by doing 1500 XP each day by doing 2 military projects a day and over 2 weeks of stalled military XP since you can't do military projects when upgrading. Therefore, people can just base their opinions of it on the listed stats and not by actually playing them.

    We'll have ours by the end of September actually. :D

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  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Agreed, there'll be numerous players - the sort who fly rainbow/skittle boats - who'll buy this having paid ZERO attention to it's stats.

    I read this and laughed because that statement reminded me of an STF I did less than 5 minutes ago.

    But yeah, why in the name of anything sane would you bother to get one of those Ps of S? It's squishy. It's not that aesthetically pleasing. And it's squishy. It also can't turn that well. And it's squishy. I'll take my FPE over it ANY day of the week.

    Long story short, DON'T WASTE YOUR FLEET CREDS/FLEET SHIP MODULES/brain power on this piece of garbage.

    On a final thought, why was this ship even made? It's terrible. Where did it even come from? (other than the oddy pet)
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  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    That is where you and I differ in opinion. It does not "look cool". Sorry to say, it looks like the mutated child of an intrepid class and a peregrine fighter.

    Yuck.
    It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once. B)
  • proteus22proteus22 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    i actually thought it looked like something the defiant passed after chewing through to many spicy jemhadar burrittos. but was just curious to me a fleet destroyer should be a ship with extreme fire power but njot quite battle ship size to me a fleet destroyer should have stats like this
    weapons load out 4 front can mount any cannons
    4 rear but one either dedicated to torpedoes or mines
    hull 39000
    turn rate 19 or 20
    bo
    1 tac commander i ltcom tac 1 lt com enginerr 1 lt universa
    consoles 4 tac 4 engineering and 2 science
    size should be in-between escort and heavy cruiser size
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  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    And on the flip side it could be significantly worse than it's stats appear to be.
    It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once. B)
  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Hmm, from what I've read a lot of the ship information listed for fleet ships is incorrect, I wouldn't be surprised to find out the Aquarius is significantly better than appears once it's actually in game.

    up to now the only thing that was wrong was the shield modifier on some klingon ships, anything else is correct information. even if the aquarius had more shield points...it would still suck big time...and for it not to suck, the information available now, need to be 90% wrong. and that is doubtfull
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  • khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,876 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Anyone think for a second that this is the actual reason why the Aquarius console is such a fail pet?

    Fail crew + fail ship. :P


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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I have 127 people in my Fleet. Over 100 of them want the Aquarius when we get the base that far - I want one myself. :) The Aquarius is just a cool looking, different looking, ship. If you don't PvP or worship at the Elite STF alter it's a perfectly good ship to fly and use at VA.

    Most people are just searching for something different, and the Aquarius, along with the upcoming Wells, are a couple of slightly different ships from what we usually get.
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  • insanerandomnesinsanerandomnes Member Posts: 228 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Guys guys relax. The ship appeals too some people. And I've heard it's getting a buff too 20 degrees a second turn rate, and better defense ratings. It might be a cheep alternative too the Jem Hadar Attack Ship. Even if it isn't, it won't be a bad ship, just not a superbly good ship. I'm determined too prove this thing can handle itself. Once we reach teir 4 that is.

    And NO, I'm not buying it with zen, I'm buying it with EC. It's an easy 20 million EC for the thing, that's not very much.
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  • khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,876 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    October is upon us. Anyone got this ship? Has the stats changed?


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  • ussultimatumussultimatum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    reyan01 wrote: »
    It'll make a change from flying the Fleet Defiant for one, and the turn-rate improvement should make it pretty nimble

    There is no turn rate improvement going from Defiant to Aquarius. They both have a base of 17, the Aquarius got bumped to 17 and never got bumped to turn rate 20.

    It has less shields, less hull, 1 less rear weapon and does not have a 5th Tac console like the Fleet Defiant.

    The only thing it has over the Fleet Defiant is the BOFF layout - otherwise this ship is completely inferior in every possible way.
  • khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,876 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    There is no turn rate improvement going from Defiant to Aquarius. They both have a base of 17, the Aquarius got bumped to 17 and never got bumped to turn rate 20.

    It has less shields, less hull, 1 less rear weapon and does not have a 5th Tac console like the Fleet Defiant.

    The only thing it has over the Fleet Defiant is the BOFF layout - otherwise this ship is completely inferior in every possible way.

    Sigh... Guess nothing's changed. :/

    I'll stick to the Gallant. That thing actually fits into the slot where the Aquarius is supposed to go, and I think that shall be the mission pod of the USS Olympus. Not the FAILius.


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  • salty8967salty8967 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Have the FAILius just to help others decide what its like. Imagine a defiant. With 1 less weapon even squishier 1 less tact slot no cloak. Try putting a normal mk X shield on yoir dwfiant and youll get a idea. It doea have good ensign universal but it doesnt make up for it. There is a few way to get this to work.

    1. Increase shield/shield modifier
    2. Give a damn cloak already.
    3. Increase turn and weapon power alot.



    Basically think of a gimp bop or half fitted defiant and you get your mk xii maco shield with 3 piece borg FAILius.



    Devs: if you read this please for the love of god buff the aquarius. It supposed to be best tact. Heavy escort carrier is other ingame so i dont include it.
  • salty8967salty8967 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Also forgot to add that defiant has inertia of 70 while aquarius has 80.

    Yes you could add consoles but you could do same for defiant
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