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Ideas for New KDF Sector Blocks

majesticmsfcmajesticmsfc Member Posts: 1,401 Arc User
edited September 2012 in Klingon Discussion
Well thanks to a great many of you we have threads to give the Dev's ideas for Ships, Costumes, Missions and so on. I'd like to start one with sector blocks.

Were there to be more Klingon sector blocks (like the Federation has) what would you like them to be like? If the KDF gets more missions, got to happen sooner or later right? We'll need at least one or two new sector blocks for all the missions.

I'd like to start off. I'd think one of the sector blocks would have to have a main KDF hub, I'd like it to be Ty'Gokor as seen in the DS9 episode where the crew go undercover as Klingons to expose a Founder who they beleive to be Gowron but is actually Martok. It's said to be the operation headquarters of the Klingon Defence Force so it would make an excellent main hub, like Starbase Serria is for the Federation in Alpha Centauri. I'd also like to see enemy contacts that are Fek'lhri and maybe some fleet actions.

The other sector block would be great for a Hur'Q invasion. Perhaps a disputed sector block, like Pi Canis is with the Federation. It could include Fleet Actions in this sector block where players can team up to fight the Hur'Q outside the missions, have enemy contacts that are Hur'Q and so on. Perhaps even a STF system like in Borg space. A Hur'Q STF where Federation players can join Klingon players defending the Empire. Not every in-keeping with the war, but we all must admit the Borg are rather overused and boring and some fresh blood would be nice.

I'm sure you all have much better ideas than me and I'd love to hear them. :)
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  • redsoniavrelredsoniavrel Member Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I'm not really up on my Klingon canon info, but I can say that I like the general theme of what you say. I think the Klingons need to be on a par with the federation if this game is ever (successfully) going to have more than two factions - which, logistics and opinions about whether it will happen and how aside, I think is everyone's ideal dream for this game. As I saw someone say in a post before launch: The Trek crowd are a loyal bunch. Do it right and you'll have them for as long as you want them.

    I'd like to see the homeworlds of the Klingon minors (not sure if they're already there - like I say, not so hot on Klingon knowledge), similar to P'Jem, Vulcan, etc in Federation space - these places existing and new also need more stuff to do on them (Race specific missions? Role play 'props' - I'm not one, but there are a lot out there). The klingons also need a Romulan/Klingon disputed area - they have, after all, been at eachothers throats for a long long time. I like what they did with qo'nos. It was frankly a bit rubbish before (no offence...) and it feels much more Klingon now.

    The Federation setup is good. It works, although the in-game proportions seem right, it can get a little 'cluastrophobic' sometimes, any canon galactic map I've seen has Federation space as being huge. I'd like to see a parralel setup for the Klingons too, and then Romulans, Cardassians, and more? There's lot's of empty space on the Galaxy map image and I'm sure adding sectors cannot possibly be all that complicated... :D
  • bloctoadbloctoad Member Posts: 660 Arc User
    edited September 2012
  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    This is how I imagine the sector map could look like based on the map Cryptic appearently used for the STO map.

    http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8164/myproposalingamegalaxym.png

    There is one more block "west" of the current Fed map, containing Betazed.
    I included territories for the Feds, the KDF and the RSE to fight over assuming we ever get some kind of territory control system.
    Each faction has its own "base" (which can't be aken away from them) while the other sectors marked "contest" need to be conquered.
  • majesticmsfcmajesticmsfc Member Posts: 1,401 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    misterde3 wrote: »
    This is how I imagine the sector map could look like based on the map Cryptic appearently used for the STO map.

    http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8164/myproposalingamegalaxym.png

    There is one more block "west" of the current Fed map, containing Betazed.
    I included territories for the Feds, the KDF and the RSE to fight over assuming we ever get some kind of territory control system.
    Each faction has its own "base" (which can't be aken away from them) while the other sectors marked "contest" need to be conquered.

    I like that map. Obviously Gorn space is now part of Klingon space right?
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I like that map. Obviously Gorn space is now part of Klingon space right?

    Thanks.
    I used this one

    http://www.geekstir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/trekmap2.jpg

    which was mentioned by...I think it was Heretic...on the forums as their source for the current sector map.
    Obviously rotated counterclockwise a bit.
    He mentioned the Gorn were "south" of the Klingons.


    Yes and no.

    "Despite demands by hardliners in the Klingon High Council, J'mpok chooses not to have the royal family executed. Rather, he offers them self-rule as long as they swear loyalty to the Empire. Slathis agrees and is given a non-voting seat in the High Council. The Klingon Fifth Fleet is withdrawn from Gorn space. "

    The Gorn are allowed to govern themselves and for the most part their fleet seems to operate on its own.
    Otherwise we'de see more mixed fleets in DSEs and Fleet Actions.;)
  • robeasomrobeasom Member Posts: 1,911 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I believe the space sectors need a lot of work especially when you fly from one sector map into another as the loading screens take any realism out of warp fight after all when in star trek does Picard or Kirk or Sisko tell the helm to lay in a course for (random planet or sector) and then 10 or so minutes when at warp the helms man said permission to warp to (Planet or Sector). However the klingon empire needs to be expanded just like the federation blocks need a couple of more including Betazed
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  • notapwefannotapwefan Member Posts: 1,138 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I wish you could have travel like Frontier Elite II
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  • vitzhvitzh Member Posts: 519
    edited September 2012
    Always thought that map wasn't accurate if I'm honest. Thought Tholians were inbetween Klingons and Federation and Gorn were actually bordered with Romulans as they both often fought. (Gorns with Plasma torpedos and Gorn anchor anyone?)
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    SInce I'm in the middle of Reading the Gorkon series I think the Devs need take a page from it and have a series of exploration missions that take the KDF intot he unexplored areas south of thier Empire and discover some trouble, like the HurQ reborn, to plaque them and open new content.

    Or the Devs can finally expand upon the KDFs conquering of bits and pieces of the RSE to make for a series of interesting an Fed/KDF war related missions.
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    vitzh wrote: »
    Always thought that map wasn't accurate if I'm honest. Thought Tholians were inbetween Klingons and Federation and Gorn were actually bordered with Romulans as they both often fought. (Gorns with Plasma torpedos and Gorn anchor anyone?)

    I think you're using the history from Starfleet Command as a basis for that.
    At least it souds that way from your comment about Gorn with Plasma Torpedoes and Tholians between the Federation and Klingons.
    However SFC is basically Star Fleet Battles for the PC.
    SFB is however set in a slightly different universe (called the "Star Fleet universe") and thus has no bearing on canon Trek and the soft-canon continuation of the storyline in STO.

    The most recent iteration of the Star Fleet Universe map looks like this:

    http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/pdf/sfuniversemap.jpg
  • hawks3052hawks3052 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    The Gonmog sector would be interesting.
  • bloctoadbloctoad Member Posts: 660 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    SInce I'm in the middle of Reading the Gorkon series I think the Devs need take a page from it and have a series of exploration missions that take the KDF intot he unexplored areas south of thier Empire and discover some trouble, like the HurQ reborn, to plaque them and open new content.

    Or the Devs can finally expand upon the KDFs conquering of bits and pieces of the RSE to make for a series of interesting an Fed/KDF war related missions.

    Or liberate ancient Klingon claims annexed through bloodshed by those treacherous Romulan p'tahks.
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  • vitzhvitzh Member Posts: 519
    edited September 2012
    misterde3 wrote: »
    I think you're using the history from Starfleet Command as a basis for that.
    At least it souds that way from your comment about Gorn with Plasma Torpedoes and Tholians between the Federation and Klingons.

    Actually board game if I'm honest, but yeah I suppose. Could create a transwarp gate network and just send KDF to conquer Delta Quadrant already. (I think this was meant to be a major part of storyline to STO but sort of faded out? Transwarp gates I mean not KDF rampage through it although would be nice)
  • tlamstriketlamstrike Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I like that map. Obviously Gorn space is now part of Klingon space right?
    Some or all of Gorn space is in and around Gamma Orionis (The Cestus System is there after all) so some might be controlled by the Borg.
    My Romulan Liberated Borg character made it to Level 30 and beat the (old) Defense of New Romulus with the skill point bug. :D
  • majesticmsfcmajesticmsfc Member Posts: 1,401 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    vitzh wrote: »
    Actually board game if I'm honest, but yeah I suppose. Could create a transwarp gate network and just send KDF to conquer Delta Quadrant already. (I think this was meant to be a major part of storyline to STO but sort of faded out? Transwarp gates I mean not KDF rampage through it although would be nice)

    Yeah lets see how the Kazon fair against our forces. :D
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  • nikoagonistesnikoagonistes Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    misterde3 wrote: »
    The most recent iteration of the Star Fleet Universe map looks like this:

    http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/pdf/sfuniversemap.jpg

    That is not the Star Trek Galaxy.

    That kind of map might have passed back in the '70s, when the only canon available was TOS, but after TNG, DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise ... no.
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    That is not the Star Trek Galaxy.

    That kind of map might have passed back in the '70s, when the only canon available was TOS, but after TNG, DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise ... no.

    Errmmm...you know I said that it's not the Star Trek universe....right...?
    BTW, the Star Fleet Universe IS from the 70's.
    And it explicitly states that it's not Star Trek in its own material.
  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    vitzh wrote: »
    Actually board game if I'm honest, but yeah I suppose.

    Ah, I hope you're not ofended by my SFC statement.
    It just seems tht these days there are many more people who now SFC than the good'ol SFB.

    vitzh wrote: »
    Could create a transwarp gate network and just send KDF to conquer Delta Quadrant already. (I think this was meant to be a major part of storyline to STO but sort of faded out? Transwarp gates I mean not KDF rampage through it although would be nice)

    Good question.
    I don't know whether it was actually planned at any point.
    Anyway Cryptic would have a lot of story explaining to do if they ever did that.

    SEVEN: I believe they're attempting to establish a military presence in the Delta quadrant.
    CHAKOTAY: That's quite a theory. Perhaps you haven't heard of the Jankata Accord.
    SEVEN: No species shall enter another quadrant for the purpose of territorial expansion.

    -"The Voyager Conspirarcy"

    There'a also still a lot of space in the Beta Quadrant to conquer.:D
  • majesticmsfcmajesticmsfc Member Posts: 1,401 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    misterde3 wrote: »
    Ah, I hope you're not ofended by my SFC statement.
    It just seems tht these days there are many more people who now SFC than the good'ol SFB.




    Good question.
    I don't know whether it was actually planned at any point.
    Anyway Cryptic would have a lot of story explaining to do if they ever did that.

    SEVEN: I believe they're attempting to establish a military presence in the Delta quadrant.
    CHAKOTAY: That's quite a theory. Perhaps you haven't heard of the Jankata Accord.
    SEVEN: No species shall enter another quadrant for the purpose of territorial expansion.

    -"The Voyager Conspirarcy"

    There'a also still a lot of space in the Beta Quadrant to conquer.:D

    The Accord went out of the window when the Undine took control of the Federation. :P
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  • vitzhvitzh Member Posts: 519
    edited September 2012
    misterde3 wrote: »
    Good question.
    I don't know whether it was actually planned at any point.
    Anyway Cryptic would have a lot of story explaining to do if they ever did that.


    Here's some old concept art of a transwarp terminal. Granted it was of a much older build of the game but it'd have been sweet if it stayed in.
  • majesticmsfcmajesticmsfc Member Posts: 1,401 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    A lot of the artwork and concept designs from Perpetual are far superior to what we have in game now. It's a shame that Perpetual didn't still have the game and had developed it. I think the game would be a whole lot better. A lot of the designs they had were actually done by John Eaves himself. If you don't know who he is, he was one of the main designers in the Trek series and did a lot of work on Voyager and Enterprise.

    I myself am a 3D modeller, an amateur really, and I have often used some of his work as inspiration and a starting point in my own work.
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