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Fleet Assault Cruiser Refit (Fleet Regent Class)

eristhevortaeristhevorta Member Posts: 1,049 Bug Hunter
edited September 2012 in Federation Discussion
I'd like to get the fleet version of the newly introduced refit assault cruiser, otherwise the UFP has not really a competitive high-hulled cruiser with an acceptable turn rate and cumparable tactical officer abilities.

Let's cumpare:

Fleet Neghwar --> 42.900 Hull / 1.1 Shields / 9 Turn Rate / LC Tac, Lt Tac, Lt Uni, Cmdr Eng, Ens Eng / 5 Eng 3 Tac 2 Sci Cunsoles / +10 Weapons +10 Engines / Special: Cloak, Dual Cannons

Fleet Regent (Hypo) --> 42.900 Hull / 1.1 Shields / 7 Turn Rate / / LC Tac, Lt Uni, Ens Tac, Cmdr Eng, Lt Eng / 5 Eng 3 Tac 2 Sci Cunsoles / +10 Weapons +5 Shields +5 Aux / Special: Riker Maneuver, Wide Angle Quantum Torp

In total, the Neghwar still remains a bit strunger than the Regent (much better turn rate, butt also specials are overall more advantageous in battle), butt it would be almeowst an on-par ship. Right now, the Regent has 10% less hull and shields, as well as one engi cunsole less, which basically makes it heavily underpowered.

The Fleet Galaxy Class is the only available high-hull cruiser for the UFP which heavily lacks turn rate, has only 1.1K more base hull and is more science-orientated with the 3rd sci cunsole in favor of only 2 tac cunsoles and of course no dual cannon or cloak ability (Dreadnought would have them, butt there is no Fleet Dreadnought available).

What do you think? Don't you think it's necessary to be able to choose from a wider variety of high-hull fleet cruisers in the UFP? Meow, please post your opinions. :)

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  • pottsey5gpottsey5g Member Posts: 4,326 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    It?s an Assault cruiser the fleet version really needs 4 Tac. The 5 eng should be saved for the Fleet Star Crusier.
  • amayakitsuneamayakitsune Member Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Or we could just go with this one which will likely be the one:

    http://www.stowiki.org/Fleet_Assault_Cruiser_Refit
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  • yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Or we could just go with this one which will likely be the one:

    http://www.stowiki.org/Fleet_Assault_Cruiser_Refit

    One Tac console more is just ok for a Fleet version.

    I could live with that, but i am afraid they will change it, so every other crusier looks like
    a pink unicorn with skirt and rainbows compared to it.


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  • eristhevortaeristhevorta Member Posts: 1,049 Bug Hunter
    edited September 2012
    Meowz, there already is a Fleet Star Cruiser. It would be quite easy to create a Fleet Assault Cruiser based on the Sovereign or the Regent ... they would make a lot of munny with this addition, lots of people would buy it.
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  • dariusmajeredariusmajere Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    The Regent originally WAS the Fleet Assault Cruiser BEFORE Season 6 went live. It was removed from the Fleet tabs and turned into a C-Store ship. Anyone who was on TTS during the initial Starbase rollout will remember that. As for them adding a Assault Cruiser that can stand stat for stat with the KDF varients I do not see that occuring. One of the main rewards of unlocking the KDF were Burlier ships to use. There faction was supposed to be an advanced faction to unlock and I am sure with the low KDF numbers they will keep it that way to get people to go onto that side.
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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Or we could just go with this one which will likely be the one:

    http://www.stowiki.org/Fleet_Assault_Cruiser_Refit


    I hate the whole 'leave off one type of station but add a Universal' thing. But if that's a must, I would make the Boff stations like this...
    Tac [][]
    Tac [][]
    Eng []
    Eng [][][][]
    Uni [][][]

    You could go way overboard on Tac or Eng if you liked, or actually put out some decent Sci powers.

    And bump up the Fleet Assault Cruiser's turn rate by 1 while you're at it. ;)
  • pottsey5gpottsey5g Member Posts: 4,326 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    The Regent originally WAS the Fleet Assault Cruiser BEFORE Season 6 went live. It was removed from the Fleet tabs and turned into a C-Store ship. Anyone who was on TTS during the initial Starbase rollout will remember that.
    That is incorrect the Fleet Assault Cruiser on tribble is not the same as the Regent. The Fleet Assault Cruiser on tribble had a different name, skin and stats.
  • amayakitsuneamayakitsune Member Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    pottsey5g wrote: »
    That is incorrect the Fleet Assault Cruiser on tribble is not the same as the Regent. The Fleet Assault Cruiser on tribble had a different name, skin and stats.

    Was for all intents the same basic ship. Had almost the same bridge officer layout and only one extra tac console. Take a look at the link to stowiki I posted above... its the stats from the tribble Fleet Assault Cruiser... and accounting for the fleet upgrade the Assault Cruiser Refit is the same ship.
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  • eristhevortaeristhevorta Member Posts: 1,049 Bug Hunter
    edited September 2012
    Anymeow, I'd still like to see a fleet assault cruiser. There are so many fleet sci and tac ships, butt almeowst no eng ships.
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  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    well, if it wasn't for the completely wrong BOFF setup of the fleet negh'var you postet i could have agreed...you combined the hull and shield of the negh'var with everything else from the vorcha, thus creating a klingon super battle cruiser^^

    and the boff layout it the most important part of a ship IMHO. So whenever the fleet assault cruiser becomes available with the specifications as seen on tribble before season 6, i'll get one...if they have the regent class boff setup, i'm gonna keep my oddy starcruiser.
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  • eristhevortaeristhevorta Member Posts: 1,049 Bug Hunter
    edited September 2012
    Oopsies, yeah, the Neghwar has the classical Engi (LC, CM) setup. My bad. ^^
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  • starfleetfcstarfleetfc Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    It would make sense, but when exactly are more Fleet ships coming?
  • eristhevortaeristhevorta Member Posts: 1,049 Bug Hunter
    edited September 2012
    Such as Fleet D'Kyr etc.? :) I don't know at all.
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  • sohtohsohtoh Member Posts: 620 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I think that one possible form that the Fleet Assault Cruiser could take is a merger of the Assault Cruiser Refit and the Advanced Heavy Cruiser Retrofit. The Hull and Shields would follow what has already been established with the other Fleet Ships, and I'm not sure about the extra console slot.

    The Bridge Officer layouts are nearly the same between the two. In the Assault Cruiser Refit, it is an Ensign Tactical; and in the Advanced Heavy Cruiser Retrofit, it is an Ensign Engineering. It would not be unheard of if that Ensign position to be turned into a Universal slot. That actually happened with the Patrol Escort. The Fleet Patrol Escort's Bridge Officer Layout is situated so the player can use the layout from the standard Patrol Escort or the standard Advanced Escort. So it would not be unprecedented for this to occur.

    Now this next bit could be tricky. One the things that is constantly brought up when people talk about the Advanced Heavy Cruiser Retrofit, is the turn rate. And from what I understand, they would love to have a Fleet version of this ship. While it hasn't been done before, it would not be out of the realm of possibility for the Fleet Assault Cruiser to receive an increase in turn rate. If this would not happen, there will be calls for a Fleet Advanced Heavy Cruiser Retrofit, as it would still be seen as a downgrade from the Advanced Heavy Cruiser Retrofit.

    Even trickier.... since both the Assault Cruiser Refit and the Advanced Heavy Cruiser Retrofit are both C-Store ships, who gets the discount on the Fleet Modules? The Assault Cruiser Refit or the Advanced Heavy Cruiser Retrofit or both? Also, would those who want their Fleet Assault Cruiser Refit, to look like the Excelsior be able to use that design? I don't know the answers to these questions, nor would I like to speculate.

    Just my two cents.
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  • corsair114corsair114 Member Posts: 276
    edited September 2012
    4 Eng / 2 Sci / 4 Tac consoles, same BOff layout as normal Regent, 1.05 shield multiplier, 10% more HP than standard Regent, Additional +5 to Engine Power. Ta-da, Fleet Assault Cruiser.
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