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Suggestion: Add shuttle to Wells Class

eddiehawkinseddiehawkins Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited September 2012 in Federation Discussion
I have a suggestion: Add the one-man timeship from VOY: "Future's End" as a playable shuttle-class as a bonus when we purchase the Wells class vessel from the C-Store, just like when we receive the Vulcan Support craft when we purchase the Vulcan D'Kyr from the C-Store. :)

(I'd like a ship pet, too, but since we didn't get a Vulcan Support craft non-combat pet, I'd understand not having a timeship non-com pet.)
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  • proteus22proteus22 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    i think you are referring to captain braxtons aeon. yes that would be a cool fighter pet
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,921 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Never ceases to amaze me, its always more more more...aren't there enough bloody shuttles on the fed side? Forget that its insane that players might be able to play a Wells class.
  • snipe048snipe048 Member Posts: 168 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Why are we supposedly getting a 29th century Timeship again?! WTF? Why don't they just give us the Ent-J while they're at it, since that one is only 200 years more advanced. lol


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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,921 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    snipe048 wrote: »
    Why are we supposedly getting a 29th century Timeship again?! WTF? Why don't they just give us the Ent-J while they're at it, since that one is only 200 years more advanced. lol

    People think we are getting one because Wells class vessels have been showing up in game. Odds are we might because there are idiots out there who seem to think its okay for us to be flying a a ship from 400 years in the future is alright, and the devs see dollar signs like always.
  • darkenzedddarkenzedd Member Posts: 881
    edited September 2012
    lianthelia wrote: »
    People think we are getting one because Wells class vessels have been showing up in game. Odds are we might because there are idiots out there who seem to think its okay for us to be flying a a ship from 400 years in the future is alright, and the devs see dollar signs like always.

    I 100% agree. I will have a really good laugh over how they try to explain how they are able to be played ingame when they are from 400 years into the future... :rolleyes:

    It is bad enough that we are currently piloting Tholian ships ingame. :rolleyes:
  • intrinsicalintrinsical Member Posts: 208 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Its a Timeship, just like the TARDIS. So it can show up at any time.

    Personally, I'm alright with the Wells class showing up if they're extremely rare and there's a good in-game story for why they're popping up in 2409. Maybe all its futuristic tech is fried and have to be replaced by current era equipment.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,921 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Its a Timeship, just like the TARDIS. So it can show up at any time.

    Personally, I'm alright with the Wells class showing up if they're extremely rare and there's a good in-game story for why they're popping up in 2409. Maybe all its futuristic tech is fried and have to be replaced by current era equipment.

    With how anal the federation time patrol is, they would stop anyone who came across the ship and erase any memory of the event.
  • intrinsicalintrinsical Member Posts: 208 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    And how would you know this isn't a pre-destination paradox?
  • insanerandomnesinsanerandomnes Member Posts: 228 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Its a Timeship, just like the TARDIS. So it can show up at any time.

    Personally, I'm alright with the Wells class showing up if they're extremely rare and there's a good in-game story for why they're popping up in 2409. Maybe all its futuristic tech is fried and have to be replaced by current era equipment.


    True, but then, did you ever see the doctor give his tardis away for civilian use? Or even military use...

    Apples and oranges mate. Two completely different ships. It's stupid to think that in the STO universe we'd get a ship from far in the future. Even if we got ahold of one, it'd be nearly impossible too understand how it works.
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  • elandarkskyelandarksky Member Posts: 1,013 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    What about the Gal X, i thought that was a ship from a timeline which no longer exists?

    Yet here we are with it? :p

    My guess on how the time ship comes into players hands are..

    nth-day Vet reward, (seems reasonable)

    Or

    Lockboxes...

    -blah blah blah- *tholians* *blah bah blah* time distorted *blah* timespacecontinum *blah* so they are now in some neat little lockboxes *BLAH!* that require these obscure keys, and each box happens to have a crystal in them for *blah* ferengi *blah* lottery :)

    Back to the OP's shuttle question, I side with the response that has the gist... 'another fed shuttle? :/...' (we use shuttles in like 3 missions, feds get at least a dozen choices, kdf gets... 3 [not including lobi shuttles], but thats another debate :D)
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,921 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    What about the Gal X, i thought that was a ship from a timeline which no longer exists?

    Yet here we are with it? :p

    My guess on how the time ship comes into players hands are..

    nth-day Vet reward, (seems reasonable)

    Or

    Lockboxes...

    -blah blah blah- *tholians* *blah bah blah* time distorted *blah* timespacecontinum *blah* so they are now in some neat little lockboxes *BLAH!* that require these obscure keys, and each box happens to have a crystal in them for *blah* ferengi *blah* lottery :)

    Back to the OP's shuttle question, I side with the response that has the gist... 'another fed shuttle? :/...' (we use shuttles in like 3 missions, feds get at least a dozen choices, kdf gets... 3 [not including lobi shuttles], but thats another debate :D)


    "sighs" The same old tired Gal-X argument, just because it was from a alternate timeline doesn't mean that it couldn't/wouldn't be developed in this timeline. There is also another big difference...the Gal-X isn't from a timeline 400 years in the future...its from a time period which was here and gone. So really...that argument holds no real water here.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Such negativity!

    Personally, I can't wait for a Wells ship! I love time stuff. And I like cute, small, excotic, yet versitile ships -- indeed like that Aeon ship Braxton had. And like the Orb Weaver. So much more my thing than just yet another cruiser... yawn.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    darkenzedd wrote: »
    I 100% agree. I will have a really good laugh over how they try to explain how they are able to be played ingame when they are from 400 years into the future... :rolleyes:

    Use your imagination! This could work fantastically! Let's say, indeed, we can hardly fully understand these ships... and sell em as such! Then, thru a series of painstaking upgrade cycles -- akin to the enhancing the Reman tech -- you unlock more and more of your ships abilities along the way. I'd totally love that!

    As for how they got here, not a big deal: they're time ships. Maybe the fleet commander of a future wells squadron made a tiny miscalculation -- or they got stuck in an ion storm or some such -- and several dozen got warped to our time as a result. Not more outlandish than any other Star Trek lore.

    Remember, it's a game; we're supposed to have fun! :)
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  • garaks31garaks31 Member Posts: 2,845 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    we don't know if wells class was designed as temporal beam ,time scan ship at first ! i would buy it as a pack like the odyssey pack and a small craft like the aeon ship ,TNG time ship or ENT bigger inside time ship would be nice :rolleyes:
  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    snipe048 wrote: »
    Why are we supposedly getting a 29th century Timeship again?! WTF? Why don't they just give us the Ent-J while they're at it, since that one is only 200 years more advanced. lol
    The NX and the Odyssey have 358 years between them. If they can sit next to each other at Earth Spacedock how is that any different then an Odyssey sitting next to a Wells?

    Having done the few time travel adventures already in STO, older ships are really not weaker then modern ships. In Night of the Comet I am not blowing up the 150 year old Klingon ships any faster then I am 25th century Klingon ships. It is the same in the Past Imperfect adventure.

    It is fairly clear that more modern does not necessarily make you more powerful in this game.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,921 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    stf65 wrote: »
    The NX and the Odyssey have 358 years between them. If they can sit next to each other at Earth Spacedock how is that any different then an Odyssey sitting next to a Wells?

    Having done the few time travel adventures already in STO, older ships are really not weaker then modern ships. In Night of the Comet I am not blowing up the 150 year old Klingon ships any faster then I am 25th century Klingon ships. It is the same in the Past Imperfect adventure.

    It is fairly clear that more modern does not necessarily make you more powerful in this game.

    There is a huge difference, the difference being the NX has been designed built and and put to rest. The Wells is a ship that won't be designed for centuries.

    Look what happened with that shuttle? It destroyed Earth and what the whole Sol system? Why...because some idiot who didn't know what he was doing played with it. So you suggest we have dozens of these ships flying around? Captains don't know what in a blue hell what they are doing? A powder keg just waiting to blow and take half the galaxy with it.
  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    lianthelia wrote: »
    There is a huge difference, the difference being the NX has been designed built and and put to rest. The Wells is a ship that won't be designed for centuries.

    Look what happened with that shuttle? It destroyed Earth and what the whole Sol system? Why...because some idiot who didn't know what he was doing played with it. So you suggest we have dozens of these ships flying around? Captains don't know what in a blue hell what they are doing? A powder keg just waiting to blow and take half the galaxy with it.
    It seems to me you are spending a lot of time telling us what you think the ship is. It might be better to wait and see what the ship is. Hyperbole is somewhat pointless right now.

    As per my example above, if I told you a TOS era klingon ship could defeat a 25th century odyssey it sounds just as stupid. You blow up the same negvars in your miranda at level 5 that you blow up in your odyssey at level 50. That's just the way things work in this game. The continuity clashes are overlooked to please fans who want the things they want.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,921 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    stf65 wrote: »
    It seems to me you are spending a lot of time telling us what you think the ship is. It might be better to wait and see what the ship is. Hyperbole is somewhat pointless right now.

    As per my example above, if I told you a TOS era klingon ship could defeat a 25th century odyssey it sounds just as stupid. You blow up the same negvars in your miranda at level 5 that you blow up in your odyssey at level 50. That's just the way things work in this game. The continuity clashes are overlooked to please fans who want the things they want.

    Don't seem to get its not only the fact that the Wells is from centuries in the future...the time patrol, why would they let a ship that could potentially destroy star systems for the simple fact of miscalculation fall into the hands of some primitives?

    For those that say maybe all of the future tech was destroyed? Then what is the point of the ship? If it has nothing special then why build it?
  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Don't seem to get its not only the fact that the Wells is from centuries in the future...the time patrol, why would they let a ship that could potentially destroy star systems for the simple fact of miscalculation fall into the hands of some primitives?

    For those that say maybe all of the future tech was destroyed? Then what is the point of the ship? If it has nothing special then why build it?
    I think you are not getting the fact that it is a game. It follows no continuity. As I said above, things are in this game because fans want them in the game. There is no logical reason why an NX, Connie, or any of the other outdated ships should be in this game. They are here because some fans have fun using them. It is the same with the Wells.

    These things are not in the game to uphold canon or continuity. They are in the game because Trek fans enjoy using them. It is really just that simple.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,921 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    stf65 wrote: »
    I think you are not getting the fact that it is a game. It follows no continuity. As I said above, things are in this game because fans want them in the game. There is no logical reason why an NX, Connie, or any of the other outdated ships should be in this game. They are here because some fans have fun using them. It is the same with the Wells.

    These things are not in the game to uphold canon or continuity. They are in the game because Trek fans enjoy using them. It is really just that simple.

    They are there because of fans, yes. But these ships aren't competitive and aren't from centuries in the future. There is no organization that patrols and eliminates any infraction caused by people using old ships for novelty and fun.
  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    lianthelia wrote: »
    They are there because of fans, yes. But these ships aren't competitive and aren't from centuries in the future. There is no organization that patrols and eliminates any infraction caused by people using old ships for novelty and fun.
    I do not know how much clearer I can say it. Things are put into this game to make fans happy. They are not put into this game to make canon sense.

    In canon a D7 would not scratch a Sovereign if the two ships somehow met in battle. In the game a D7 can destroy a Sovereign. I canon a Wells would probably make an Sovereign look like a paper airplane. In the game they are roughly equal. It is not about making sense with canon. Nothing in this game is. Everything in the game is put here for the geek factor, not common sense.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    stf65 wrote: »
    I do not know how much clearer I can say it. Things are put into this game to make fans happy. They are not put into this game to make canon sense.

    In canon a D7 would not scratch a Sovereign if the two ships somehow met in battle. In the game a D7 can destroy a Sovereign. I canon a Wells would probably make an Sovereign look like a paper airplane. In the game they are roughly equal. It is not about making sense with canon. Nothing in this game is. Everything in the game is put here for the geek factor, not common sense.

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