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jermbotjermbot Member Posts: 801 Arc User
edited September 2012 in Klingon Discussion
I'll be posing four questions about the KDF, and I'd like to start a conversation, a constructive and respectful conversation, about what you believe the answers to be.

First, what one thing does the KDF need more than any other?

Second, on a personal note, what would you most like to see?

Three, what is your best idea that can be monetized and how would you price it?

Four, what is the best thing that you can think to add to the KDF who's production can be dovetailed with Federation development?

The first two questions are straight forward wish fulfillment. The second two are more interesting as they speak to the development hurdles or preferences of Cryptic. If you can fit your answers to the first two into your answers for the second two, you win the thread.
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  • tetonicatetonica Member Posts: 142 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    First, what one thing does the KDF need more than any other?

    Content, both for leveling and for end-game. I would personally like to see more engrossing end-game content than kill x in y amount of minutes.
    Second, on a personal note, what would you most like to see?

    Same as above. Plus non-zen store sub-race ships.(even just zen store skins for existing kdf ships)
    Three, what is your best idea that can be monetized and how would you price it?

    Affiliated race bridge and costume packs. Let us have orion, gorn and nausican bridges for the respective ships. More character and ship costumes in general. I would like to see a 3 pack bridge for each sub-race, and a 1 bridge with 1 ship skin pack for each tier 5 sub race ship. All could be priced between 550 and 1000 zen for ACCOUNT wide unlocks.
    Four, what is the best thing that you can think to add to the KDF who's production can be dovetailed with Federation development?

    Tiered STF's/FE's. It makes little sense to me that we have to spend so much time getting stf sets/weapons which are then all but useless for any other content. IE, purple [borg] weapons basically function as blue against any other enemy type. I would like to see another set of STF's that are more difficult and engrossing where having this gear will give you a definite advantage over normal purple gear.
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  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    1. More mission content. Mostly unique missions, but shared missions like the FE's would also work. (And also my idea in the 4th bullet)

    2. More customization options for the KDF ships, both free and C-Store. And I mean ALL of them, including the Gorn/Orion/Nausicaan ships.

    3. More bridge packs, both Klingon and non-Klingon, possibly with the aforementioned skins attached to them.

    4. Shared missions, literally missions that have to be done with a 5-man team of Feds AND a 5-man team of KDF. Teamwork will be required, even more so than the STF's, and the only dev work needed is on a single mission, not two versions of the same mission.
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  • gradstudent1gradstudent1 Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    jermbot wrote: »
    I'll be posing four questions about the KDF, and I'd like to start a conversation, a constructive and respectful conversation, about what you believe the answers to be.

    First, what one thing does the KDF need more than any other?

    Second, on a personal note, what would you most like to see?

    Three, what is your best idea that can be monetized and how would you price it?

    Four, what is the best thing that you can think to add to the KDF who's production can be dovetailed with Federation development?

    The first two questions are straight forward wish fulfillment. The second two are more interesting as they speak to the development hurdles or preferences of Cryptic. If you can fit your answers to the first two into your answers for the second two, you win the thread.

    Thanks for these thoughtful questions:

    1) We do not need a particular item (ship, costumes, mission), we simply need a greater amount of consistent attention from the devs--attention that is informed by KDF player feedback. This may manifest itself in new ships, missions, etc., but at this point, given the rate of new Fed items, many KDF players simply feel overlooked and disregarded.

    We don't need the sheer number of items given to Feds (KDF has learned to do a lot with just a little!), we simply need a steady influx of new and highly useful items.

    2) I would like to see more ships that are highly flexible. They don't even need to be new designs, simply more universal versions of what we already have. See, e.g., my proposal for a more flexible Negh'Var (the most beautiful ship in the game, in my not-so-humble opinion): http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=353631

    We need additional missions that are no reworked Fed missions. Mission content that is KDF unique is KEY for drawing and keeping a strong player base. Many players want to feel as if they are part of something epic, and this is best done by sweeping the player up in a story, a grand myth.

    3) Ships, I imagine, would be the best option, especially since there has been a drought of KDF ships as of late.

    4) As tetonica mentions above, we need me end game content (stf's in particular). I see too many long-time players getting bored and drifting to other games beacuse there is so little to do at 50. The fleet system is one thing for end-game players to do, but it amounts to a protracted griind---a rewarding one, but a grind that is largely detached from any epic story content.

    Thanks again for these thoughtful questions.
  • majesticmsfcmajesticmsfc Member Posts: 1,401 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Thanks for these thoughtful questions:

    1) We do not need a particular item (ship, costumes, mission), we simply need a greater amount of consistent attention from the devs--attention that is informed by KDF player feedback. This may manifest itself in new ships, missions, etc., but at this point, given the rate of new Fed items, many KDF players simply feel overlooked and disregarded.

    We don't need the sheer number of items given to Feds (KDF has learned to do a lot with just a little!), we simply need a steady influx of new and highly useful items.

    2) I would like to see more ships that are highly flexible. They don't even need to be new designs, simply more universal versions of what we already have. See, e.g., my proposal for a more flexible Negh'Var (the most beautiful ship in the game, in my not-so-humble opinion): http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=353631

    We need additional missions that are no reworked Fed missions. Mission content that is KDF unique is KEY for drawing and keeping a strong player base. Many players want to feel as if they are part of something epic, and this is best done by sweeping the player up in a story, a grand myth.

    3) Ships, I imagine, would be the best option, especially since there has been a drought of KDF ships as of late.

    4) As tetonica mentions above, we need me end game content (stf's in particular). I see too many long-time players getting bored and drifting to other games beacuse there is so little to do at 50. The fleet system is one thing for end-game players to do, but it amounts to a protracted griind---a rewarding one, but a grind that is largely detached from any epic story content.

    Thanks again for these thoughtful questions.

    All of this, well said mate.

    More costumes would be nice and non cross-faction missions they are just the worse imo. Check out Roach's threads he made yesterday about all this. I made some lengthy responses in there.
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  • srodneysrodney Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    First, what one thing does the KDF need more than any other?

    Players. We're very low, not much is made to make the KDF more interesting... it's a vicious circle. Cryptic says we're 16% so it's illogical for them to spend as much effort as they do on the federation side. Still, not spending time to improve the faction (i.e. not make them stronger, just more enjoyable to play for the average STO player) will not improve the player turn out. Someone, somewhere must do the first step.

    1- Players give a real chance to the KDF Faction and level a character to 50.
    2- Cryptic gives a real chance to the KDF Faction and completes it (level 1 to 50 with its own exclusive missions to fill the current lack of content)

    Second, on a personal note, what would you most like to see?

    The Nausicaan Lance. Ever since I've seen that weapon used by a heavy raider in game, I wanted one. It looks MEAN with it's energy blade and it's effects are great !

    1- Bolt Setting (similar to Pulsewave rifle)
    2- Alternate attack (Roots the target to the ground with crackling green energy, very impressive effect, love at first sight)
    3- Energy Lance (Have you seen how big that blade is ???)

    Three, what is your best idea that can be monetized and how would you price it?

    "Premium Episode Series" for 250 zen an episode or 1000 for the bundle (5 episodes) you get to play new "featured series". Those would have the same feel as a featured episode (like the breen, reman, dominion and devidian series) with special rewards and such.

    You start by releasing one per week at 250 zen and, once the series is over and the special reward isn't available anymore, you sell it as a bundle for less (5 episodes for the price of 4). Later, when there's official reruns, you get to have the special reward anyway. People who spent 1250 zen did get to use the special reward up to now... so it's fair.

    Four, what is the best thing that you can think to add to the KDF who's production can be dovetailed with Federation development?

    The Storyline should ultimately bring us to war with the Iconians, who started all this conflict and, ultimately, seal an everlasting alliance between the Federation and Klingon empire. We've only known Klingon/Federation war during ToS and some DS9 episodes... otherwise they were allies...

    Star Trek has always been the vision of Gene Roddenberry. A vision of peace, unity, exploration, and self-improvement. The Klingon empire, while depicted as a Warrior race in the original series, have had incredible lore during TNG and DS9 (mostly thanks to Worf).

    Having the Federation and KDF in peace (PvP can still happen cross-faction as diplomatic incidents or holodeck wargames) would allow us to actually do cross-faction teams while leveling, allow federation players to explore KDF content while teamed with a Klingon... and Klingon players to help federation allies in FED exclusive content.
  • gradstudent1gradstudent1 Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    All of this, well said mate.

    More costumes would be nice and non cross-faction missions they are just the worse imo. Check out Roach's threads he made yesterday about all this. I made some lengthy responses in there.

    Yes, as majesticmsfc says, Roach's thread (http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=376401) is really important--probably one of the more important ones of the last few weeks. There is some good material here.
  • thesnyndicatethesnyndicate Member Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    You all here dont realize that if feds get leech console and stack it with MACO shields its gave over for KDF side.

    Not only because feds will be so much more OP than us and dominate us in pvp

    But also because some players like me are going to stop KDF and play FED instead since KDF doesnt offer me anymore something unique and worth using to keep on playing with them.

    End of story and gameover for KDF side i told you you didnt listen to me?

    Np you will encounter me in a few months with my new federation ship leeching you and having full power all over across the board i will be unstoppable.

    I know its not fair but you dont rly care company doesnt rly care its seems i am the only person who almost had a heart attack once i heard this ''rumor''.

    Fair or not all i know is one thing: i will get you all 1v1 or 1vs many i get you no matter what faction i play.
  • elandarkskyelandarksky Member Posts: 1,013 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    First, what one thing does the KDF need more than any other?

    A tutorial/first mission that inst SOUL CRUSHING.
    Like with books, you have to hook your reader within the first few pages or paragraph, that KDF tutorial.. god. Anyone who has created KDF toons, (or many) will have to admit the tutorial was dull as dishwater. Starts interesting 1 on 1 combat, and you get a summary of what you have already experienced as a fed player. Then the tour of Qo;nos. which sees you run to contact - person - person - contact, next contact - person - person -contact, NEXT contact.. GAH! Yeah its good to get a feel of the First City's layout but COME ON!

    There have been a few suggestions I've seen and liked, e.g. you are on board a ship with a captain who is acting cowardly/dishonorable, you challenge him to combat and take the ship!, heck there could even be an UNDINE based tutorial to mirror the Borg style for feds. I mean according to the game's history the Klingons invaded the gorn homeworld right? (or something similar) So why cant we have a flavour of that with an ACTUAL tutorial :p

    Second, on a personal note, what would you most like to see?

    That im not sure of, maybe a bit more ship variety, actual costumes (HAIR in particular) geneal more customization and MISSIONS! the KDF only missions, great, the current shared kdf/fed missions, i still feel like a federation person doing a mission with ever so slightly changed dialouge. :/ (also a maurding skill which has little effect in missions where diploamcy does e.g. mine enemy)

    Three, what is your best idea that can be monetized and how would you price it?

    Monetize, that would likely be ships/costumes, I mean one thing i can imagine which might garner some interest is a fersan ship (not me personally but its possible) and maybe Lethean ships? none present to my knowledge (same with lethean uniform).

    Four, what is the best thing that you can think to add to the KDF who's production can be dovetailed with Federation development?

    This im genuinely unsure of. Personally id like the 'KDF experiance' to have something different to offer from than the 'FED Experiance' Going from the shows, if anything the federation in game is too trigger happy, almost every mission is combat heavy, when the federation is ment to be a force for exploration and peace. The KDF (under its new ruler) Is more about combat, taking what they want and conquering, something to that effect would be nice.

    But i dunno, the KDF/FED war seems to be a war without battles/importance with the instability of the romulans, and the ever looming threat of the borg/undine/iconians.. maybe a ceasefire in the future and joint missions? e.g. Federation and KDF HAVING to be paired up utilzing aspects from both factions ships e.g. the stealth and warfare of KDF, the durability and science aspect of the federation?
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    First, what one thing does the KDF need more than any other?
    PvE storyline content.
    Low level content to invest the player in the differences of playing within the KDF as an alternative to fedplay and to bring the faction to completion.
    Endgame STF PvE missions to invest the KDF player into a purpose that gives the choice of KDF factional play a persona. Possibly a uniting of forces against the Undine as we have against the Borg.
    Second, on a personal note, what would you most like to see?
    A complete KDF faction offering a different style to its gameplay than the federation.
    Three, what is your best idea that can be monetized and how would you price it?
    400 zen Ground Combat Kits: Targ Handling/Saurian Handling
    400 zen Ground Combat Kits: Melee weapons of variuos choices with accompanying special moves.
    400 zen Costume bundles: Offering both combat and casual KDF wear by race.
    2000 zen KDF vessel packs: Offer Orion, Gorn, Leathian, Nausican, and Alien vessels different in core choices that we currently posses complete with special abilities, bridges & interior, etc.
    1000 zen Mini-Featured Episode packs: a small 1-3 mini featurette of PvE missions focusing on KLingon House v. House intrique, Gorn Uprisings, Orion power plays, Nausicain Mercenary work, Leathian Knowledge trading or other possible storylines that can be acrued to the KDF but the Devs are unwilling to risk resources on without a profit return for the effort. If Cryptic will not finish the KDF by choice then let them do it for a fee. (though it may backfire as many will see it as a cop-out)
    Four, what is the best thing that you can think to add to the KDF who's production can be dovetailed with Federation development?
    STFs as created from a KDF point of view involving the Undine hunt.
    STFs as created from a KDF point of view involving the Iconian conspiracy
    FEs as created from a KDF point of view involving the possible Gorn rebellion
    FEs as created from a KDF point of view involving the Orion conspiracy
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  • kamenskshaxkamenskshax Member Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    1. To me the kdf lacks heart - I have a real affiliation with my Fed toon, but there is nothing to inspire me in the KDF, which was a huge disappointment. KDF needs to be truly unique and fully Klingon. This distinctiveness will help us to engage more

    2. As above - I want to see a distinct playing style and feel. Not a red tinged Fed's poor cousin

    3. Costumes, bridges, customisations that let me create a uniqueness that is possible on fed side at the moment. The mechanisms for monetising that are in place already.
    Not sure premium missions would ever do it for me - why play those rather than the free foundry missions?

    4. I would like to see an STF that builds on the wonderful start in the Bajor missions: the ultimate goal of retaking DB9 was shared between KDF and Fed, but there was the amazingly poignant detail of bugging fed offices. An STF where KDF and FED had different, and potentially conflicting goals would be amazing - it would be a huge step to creating that "allied but rivals" feel of all KDF-Fed reflected in canon.
    We need to emphasise that it is not a happy alliance of likeminded Ghandi's but the worst of two evils - co-op missions that reflect that would be awesome
  • hawks3052hawks3052 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    1) Full PVE - Low level up to end level progression.

    2) A KDF faction whith a very different play stile the the Federation.

    3) Costumes packs and brige packs could be sold.

    4) Some united push against the Undine infiltration. The retaking of DS9 was a start that could be used and the Undine thread is still out there.
  • marc8219marc8219 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    1.
    Yes I think we need more non zen store ships of the other KDF races. I would like to see them fill other roles too, such as a Gorn ship that isn't a sci ship, an Orion ship that isn't a cruiser, and a Nausicaan ship that isn't an escort.

    More Fleet ships are needed as well, especially at T2 and T3. I think a Fleet Hegta BOP, and a Fleet B'rel are needed as the BOP seems to be falling behind these days.

    More ships in general are the most important i think

    2.
    I would most like to see this stuff in adition to more ships:

    Content should be added so that players can start KDF from level 1, but I also think the ability to start at level 20 should be left in for people that have already leveled up at least 1 character.

    Better quest rewards are needed for the few KDF only unique quests we do have like the Fek'iri war series, most of those rewards are useless, and doesn't give much incentive to try KDF unique content.

    More uniforms are needed as well as this will also interest more players in KDF, the uniform the Dahar Master NPC's wear should be free at level 50.

    STFs should be added or changed to make having at least 1 or 2 KDF players along important to make things go easily. Make it so cloak and battle cloak is actually important in PVE and just having a team of 5 Feds would be harder to pass it. This could be done by having objectives that need to be secured within limited time but have too much npcs in the way to be able to easily blast your way through, but where cloaked ships can slip past and secure the objectives much faster.

    Melee has been improved slightly, but needs to be improved more to make Batleths viable as this is important for Klingons.

    3.
    A limited time KDF only Z-store discount promo will get more players to give KDF a try too, and should make a nice profit if it expands the KDF player base, since some of those new KDF players will buy more KDF ships when the sale is over from time to time.
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  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    You all here dont realize that if feds get leech console and stack it with MACO shields its gave over for KDF side.

    Not only because feds will be so much more OP than us and dominate us in pvp

    But also because some players like me are going to stop KDF and play FED instead since KDF doesnt offer me anymore something unique and worth using to keep on playing with them.

    End of story and gameover for KDF side i told you you didnt listen to me?

    Np you will encounter me in a few months with my new federation ship leeching you and having full power all over across the board i will be unstoppable.

    I know its not fair but you dont rly care company doesnt rly care its seems i am the only person who almost had a heart attack once i heard this ''rumor''.

    Fair or not all i know is one thing: i will get you all 1v1 or 1vs many i get you no matter what faction i play.
    You can claim game-over and players will leave all you want. If Fed's get the leech console, we won't miss you, because that kind of attitude is not honorable. If it doesn't, then great, but your actions are still not honorable.

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  • robeasomrobeasom Member Posts: 1,911 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    First, what one thing does the KDF need more than any other?
    PVE Content
    Storyline missions that are not available to fed players

    Second, on a personal note, what would you most like to see?
    KDF unique content
    FEd's have patrol missions when they can go to planets and solve certain things. why not allow KDF to do something similar but do the opposite.
    i.e Take over the planet and make it part of the empire
    Hunt a spy out on a klingon allied world

    Three, what is your best idea that can be monetized and how would you price it?
    Not really happy with lockboxes or another person said charging for missions as KDF have very few anyway. But maybe some Bridges, Costumes or maybe cross faction aliens, Cardassians, Jem Hadar (From dominion war) Remans (From the romulan storyline mission) Or Romulans maybe even some ferengi.

    We really need something done as KDF is getting old and if they ask a lot of fans what thwy would play either Fed of Klingon if they could start at level 1 I bet KDF would be the choice. I for one only played as a fed to get the KDF unlocked and love my BOP better than my MU star cruiser for my fed toon
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  • robeasomrobeasom Member Posts: 1,911 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Another thing I would like to see BAtleth Tournament as well could be done PVP and PVE Tournaments
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  • jermbotjermbot Member Posts: 801 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I don't think anyone would be happy with the idea of billing players for content and while I'm a front line defender of Cryptic making business decisions that most people will be unhappy with, in this case I don't think they should do it.

    As has been pointed out, the developers promised the KDF a full faction, it probably won't be as full as many here would want, but until they've developed enough PVE content that Cryptic feels comfortable asking a Klingon to start at level 1 and work his way all the way to 50 without being afraid too many of them will give up, I don't think they should be billing for content. After Cryptics promises have been fulfilled, I could see billing for featured episodes with the promise that it will be reran 6 months later.

    But on to answering my own questions.

    What does the KDF need?

    I think Srodney hit the nail on the head when he said players. But we can't just answer players, because Cryptic can't simply program them into the game. The majority of this game's player base is at max level, and while redirecting more of the trickle from new subscribers into the KDF will be helpful, the big prize will come from stealing away Federation players or winning back Klingon players that have deserted. More on that later.

    What do I personally want to see?

    I was going to say a hot Vulcan Marauding Boff dressed like an Orion slavegirl. But on the other hand, Marc's idea for member race ships that break their race's mold actually sound more exciting. A Nausicaan Cruiser (with science LtC), an Orion Science Vessel (with tactical LtC) and a Gorn Escort (with Engineer LtC) would be awesome and are play style choices currently unavailable. Or shuffle the hybridization around to something else you're comfortable with.

    What can be monetized?

    I do have to disagree with Marc that these should be free. Quite the contrary, monetize the hell out of these things, give them special consoles, competitive stats and a 2500 zen price tag. I'd pay, probably buy two of them, maybe pay for all three.

    What can be dovetailed with the Federation's development?

    Four featured episode series that makes up a central part of the KDF story line and based around the four militaries that make up the KDF. Klingon, Nausicaan, Orion and Gorn all get a series of 5 episodes that tell their people's stories and explain their relationships to eachother.

    These episodes will give particularly useful items, shields, weapon choices, a blue quality personal weapon. For KDF players these high reward missions will be made available at very low levels, the lowest level possible allowing for playability and after adding a new tutorial. For the Federation, they'll be made available at a much higher character level, maybe even end game. The KDF player would just play the role of a servant of the Empire, but the Federation player would have to operate incognito, taking the role of a KDF member race and having to act like one, in order to sell his cover.

    The idea here is that these missions will serve as a significant boost to any leveling Klingons, to give them a better chance to reach end game. Where as for the Federation they'd serve as an introduction into the unique cultures and attitudes of the races involved, sort of like a sales pitch to convince that newly minted Vice Admiral that instead of starting the great end game grind, he should give the KDF a try instead.
  • aurigas7aurigas7 Member Posts: 488 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    First, what one thing does the KDF need more than any other?

    It's own story. Storyline missions that shed some light on Orions, Nausicaans, Letheans and Ferasans. Not some rehashed fed content. Starting from level one.
    Clothing options. (<- there you start with money grabbing). In short: immersion. A gaming experience that is radically different to federation gameplay. Not just a different colour HUD.


    Second, on a personal note, what would you most like to see?

    A K'Vort bird of prey. Star Trek is about space ships, right ?


    Three, what is your best idea that can be monetized and how would you price it?

    See above. The usual 2500 zen for a T5 ship, 300-400 zen for an uniform package. And I guess every warrior would want a d'k tahg. Just give me a close combat package that includes a good kit for marital arts and the missing klingon melee weapons

    Four, what is the best thing that you can think to add to the KDF who's production can be dovetailed with Federation development?


    Just give us a quality PvP content. Benefits both sides, and may actually attract new players. As usual, dangle the item carrot. And here we go, one more currency ! Ah, and I would love a close combat package for my Andorian, too !
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  • majesticmsfcmajesticmsfc Member Posts: 1,401 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    jermbot wrote: »
    I don't think anyone would be happy with the idea of billing players for content and while I'm a front line defender of Cryptic making business decisions that most people will be unhappy with, in this case I don't think they should do it.

    As has been pointed out, the developers promised the KDF a full faction, it probably won't be as full as many here would want, but until they've developed enough PVE content that Cryptic feels comfortable asking a Klingon to start at level 1 and work his way all the way to 50 without being afraid too many of them will give up, I don't think they should be billing for content. After Cryptics promises have been fulfilled, I could see billing for featured episodes with the promise that it will be reran 6 months later.

    If they did bill players for content, I feel subscribers shouldn't be included, as they commit money each month or did one big lumb sum. They are already making money off this group, consent cash flow. SO if they did bring this bill for content idea in, it should be to either encourage F2P members to either take out a lifetime/monthly sub or to spend more Zen to acquire it.

    Now I do know a lot of F2P players spend quite a bit in Zen, but still that is not a commitment as they don't have to do it, nor on any regular basis, while gold subscribers do it on a monthly basis, if they don't their subscription is suspended and they loose their benefits. People might say well lifetimers don't, but in fact they just paid up front. Almost 2 years worth of monthly subscriptions in one lumb statement.

    In whole I do agree, that until they get enough missions that are unique to the KDF to allow players to play from lvl 1-50 without having to do side quests and such and fulfil the KDF story arcs then billing for content shouldn't be done at all. Cryptic needs to deliver what they promised before charging us for more. Many players have grown bored of what little STO offers, imagine if they start charging us for content, it will make subscriptions not worth it, nor the game as a whole tbh.
    trek21 wrote: »
    You can claim game-over and players will leave all you want. If Fed's get the leech console, we won't miss you, because that kind of attitude is not honorable. If it doesn't, then great, but your actions are still not honorable.

    We are Klingons. We do not give up without a fight :D That is all

    I would ignore him, he is starting to post that in every thread, whether it's the topic of the tread or not. It's getting to the point of trolling. We all know his position, right or wrong.
    Support the Game by Supporting the KDF, equality and uniqueness for all factions!
  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    jermbot wrote: »
    I'll be posing four questions about the KDF, and I'd like to start a conversation, a constructive and respectful conversation, about what you believe the answers to be.

    Thanks for offering this opportunity.
    jermbot wrote: »
    First, what one thing does the KDF need more than any other?

    The KDF as a whole is more diverse than Starfleet (my sound strange at first) due to its composition.
    It's an alliance of several different species and as such this should be reflected in gameplay and choice of ships.
    Currently the NPC fleets of the KDF allies are far more diverse than the playable KDF fleet.
    I think changing that (using existing art assets) would go a long way towards making the KDF as a whole more credible.
    jermbot wrote: »
    Second, on a personal note, what would you most like to see?

    The K'vort, it's the last canon TNG-era Klingon ship missing in STO.
    jermbot wrote: »
    Three, what is your best idea that can be monetized and how would you price it?

    Costume and Weapons Bundles.

    Example:

    A "23rd Century Bundle" consisting of the missing female options for that era:

    Mara's costume from "Day of the Dove"

    http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x07hd/dayofthedovehd0885.jpg

    and Valkris' costume from Star Trek III.

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mXhDisTftsQ/TvO380_f_OI/AAAAAAAAarE/F3-a8XD5pc4/s1600/Valkris_JimSmash.jpg

    Add in the 23rd century Disruptor Pistol (as compression pistol)

    http://www.christies.com/lotfinderimages/d47799/d4779991r.jpg

    and the Extended version with the stock as a Full-Auto Rifle.

    http://images.wikia.com/memoryalpha/en/images/3/38/Klingon_disruptor_rifle_prop.jpg

    Price: 550 for the costumes (standard)+75 for each weapon, so the full proce would be 700 ZEN.
    jermbot wrote: »
    Four, what is the best thing that you can think to add to the KDF who's production can be dovetailed with Federation development?

    Just like with the Bajoran weapons in the DS9 Bundle, allow the weapons to be used on the Federation side as well.
    jermbot wrote: »
    The first two questions are straight forward wish fulfillment. The second two are more interesting as they speak to the development hurdles or preferences of Cryptic. If you can fit your answers to the first two into your answers for the second two, you win the thread.

    I hope I undetstood 4 correctly.;)
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