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Ships, Ships and more Ships, are we missing anything?
bitemepwe
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The new fleet ships have greatly expanded our vessel options in numbers but are we missing anything in the KDF fleet?
What new type of ships, if any, would you like to see and why should it be a viable option for STO?
Do you think the current vessels and the new Fleet vessels are competitive in STO?
If so, why?
If not, why?
What KDF unique vessel Equipment or Weapons would you like to see in STO and why should it be a viable option?
What are your thoughts on Racial ships?
Do we need a Ferasan vessel?
Should the Gorn, Orion and Nausican vessels of the line be expanded upon?
What new type of ships, if any, would you like to see and why should it be a viable option for STO?
Do you think the current vessels and the new Fleet vessels are competitive in STO?
If so, why?
If not, why?
What KDF unique vessel Equipment or Weapons would you like to see in STO and why should it be a viable option?
What are your thoughts on Racial ships?
Do we need a Ferasan vessel?
Should the Gorn, Orion and Nausican vessels of the line be expanded upon?
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Gorn Escorts: Slower Impulse speed/ High turn/ heavy armor & hull/ moderate shields.
Gorn Battle Cruisers: Slow Impulse speed/ low turn/ Heavy armor & hull/ heavy shields
Orion Escorts: fast impulse speed/ High turn/ Moderate armor & hull/ moderate shields
(needed I feel becuase regardless of what STOwiki says, the Flight Deck Cruiser is not "Their counterpart on the Federation side are the Escort Carrier" with its 2 tac consoles, Single LT tac BOff and half the turnrate of the Armitage)
Leathian Cruisers: ?????
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That way my Lethean Science Officer can faceroll the galaxy in his people's pimp mobile.
I agree, even some sort of Science/Engineering Cruiser hybrid, something new and different but still fairly balanced with existing designs.
I don't feel comfortable cross-posting stuff so I'll leave a link to my proposal here:
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=374791
A new ship skin design for the Qin (something with menacing cannons off the hull like the Puyjaq? A mean love-child of the Puyjaq and the Birok would make me veeeeery happy), and perhaps a 5th Tac console (reshuffle to get it), or better still, some serious hull improvements to make up for the slow nose to target turning characteristics. Would love to see the Ensign slot go Universal, one Universal station like some of the Fleet Crusiers would be marvelous. Er... can I have all of the above??
That said, I'm a Birok (w Qin pylons) Raptor Driver, not really looking for any love outside the Qin. :cool:
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A Lethean ship design!
I would love to see how it would look.
And hey, they have to have some sort of ships, don't they?? Or did they hitch hike throughout the universe until a nasty Klingon picked one up and invaded their home world?
2. A Ferasan ship / shuttle bundle would be nice
3. Where is my Son'a battlecruiser / shuttle
4. imho KDF is most in need of t5 science ships ...... well and more faction specific weapon / costume options.
All i have to say is that federation ships are better.
More tac console 5x vs 4x we only got max.
More universal boffs against zero or 1x universal boff we got.
High stats on hull and shields vs lower stats on our ships
And finally LOWER TURN RATE THAN HIGH TURN RATE FEDERATION GOT
Sry that i use caps but srsly you PWE dudes have OVERDONE it with federation love!
I am only 1 year player still fanatic and good customer but i lost my patience with all the unfairiness i see with FED vs KDF.
Now only reason i stay here is the elder klingons like Roach who still remains here besides all the unfairiness and promises you gave to him and other elder klingons all those years.
Those dudes made me stick with this game and their patience is admirable and made me to still play the game besides all the unfair things that are happening. I mean if these guys keep on playing the game besides all the unfair things and keep on writing to you PWE all those years then the least i can do is to support them.
But i wont pay ever again ur company unless u start to show us (KDF) that you take us into consideration.
And if you dont finally i will quit at some point.
Now besides all the rightfully ''whining'' (protest) above i still like my fleet scourge destroyer but it lacks turn rate 5th tac console and UNIVERSAL BOFFS!!!!
The Fed does get new shinny ships every 2 months or so - but for all practical purposes most KDF ships are more battle ready right from the get-go than any new Fed ship that has come along.
Obviously there is the money issue - so new shinny Fed ships will keep rolling off the line - but the increases to Fed ships stat and console wise is just to close the gap between what you got for a long time as KDF(superior ships) and Fed ships that were sub-par
Not to mention the cloak but KDF had better turn rates - still does. Almost every KDF toon I have uses the Heavy Bop - I find it one of the best ships out there - far superior to any Fed ship you get for free at lvl 40
Otherwise, I would say costume packs for ship skins and bridge packs to get non-klingon bridges for my orion and nausican ships would be far more appreciated by me. Sure Lethean and Ferasan ships would be kind of nice, but I don't think they're really needed per se. I'd much prefer getting more engrossing end-game content for BOTH factions than new ships.
EDIT: Or better yet, slow down the leveling so I can actually make use of the ships already in the c-store
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Ships sell factions don't. It's much easier to put time and money into making a single ship than a whole faction. It's only because the KDF is already established with fans, and content that it's realistic to request completeness and development. To do a whole new faction is at least for the foreseeable future unrealistic and a huge time and money sink for Cryptic/PWE, something I can't see them doing.
As a Nausicaan fan first, I'd like to see an end game Talon Flight Deck Cruiser with a science LtC station. It can start with and unlock special siphon probes that unlock for any carrier. That should give it some broader appeal and put a drain in the game that actually matches what the NPC Nausicaans do.
I would also think that the D7 cruiser that has been in service with the KDF for over 100 years would have more variations that currently available.
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-Gorn cruiser. And with cruiser I don't mean a slow turning science ship. Heavy tank and gank, as one would expect from Gorn.
-Nausicaan cruiser/ flight deck cruiser. Introducing syphon drones. eng/tac focus.
-Orion combat science vessel. I mean come one, Orions are the genuine tricksters of the KDF, not the gorn ! Alternatively, I could settle with something like a MVAE from the slot layout.
-The Qin is a "heavy" Raptor. It turns like a hog, give it the boff layout of a light cruiser !
Commander tac
Lieutenant tac
Lt. Commander eng
Ens. eng
Lieutenant sci
-Introduce the K'Vort as our glass cannon counterpart to the fed Defiant. (Maybe as costume option of a fleet Hegh'ta ?)
I had once heard that the Qin was basically an Escort on a Cruiser frame and this is why the turn pivot is so far back.
Though I do like your BOff idea as well. It might work if all other stats for the Qin where left in place.
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I laughed when I read this.
The reason I can't bring myself to stay in a Qin is because of that pivot point when turning.
It's one of the reasons I now love the Fleet Somraw so much.
I can get behind the light cruiser idea for the qin.
Regarding K'Vort ... Yeah ... Would be a nice counterpoint to the Fed Defiant.
Still ... LOVE my Fleet Somraw.
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THAT is what we need imo.
Yeah, that's right.
The default bridge and the bridge packs are too directed to Klingon Empire. Nothing wrong with this, but I want to see more bridge packs following some racial themes.
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You are correct, the KDF faction needs these as well.
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After that I'd like to see more options for customizing not just my ships, but also my uniforms, and to actually have off duty clothing (tho I can't be sure the KDF is ever really off duty).
Following that, it would be nice to see more fleshing out of the KDF only FE's to fill in back story and history of the KDF and it's allies, both of the current KDF story arcs are just really taste testers that leave me wanting more, even some of the shared ones do that. These story arcs as they sit leave so much unexplained, and untouched, that they could be used as the platform for the KDF to gain the experience of a full level 1 to 50 progression.
It would be possible to create a tutorial that starts with an undine infiltration that you discover, which results in you getting promoted to captain of the ship, yes I know this is taking cue's from the fed tutorial, but it works and it works well, but it also allows for some creative thinking, we all know the ships for those levels are in the core game, they may need a little tweaking here and there, but for the most part that aspect is already taken care of.
As for ships, I personally am in no rush to see new KDF ships, sure, it would be nice to see and know we are not forgotten by the dev teams, but the strengths of our current choices (fleet ships and Qin aside) are so much better then the fed choices both in performance and base design looks (sorry, don't much care for the dinner plate with sticks look).
If we can just get a couple of the things I have mentioned in this post, the KDF would be worlds apart from what it is now, I feel it would be so much more of an interesting faction by doing so than just adding ships to the cstore, or just basically throwing us a bone in the shape of a lock-box ship or 2.
I also agree with darat for the most part. Though I think ships should be the most prominent part of any possible new KDF content we should get a few. All should be top level options. Including a new science ship that keeps up with the Federation ones (they can hold the sub-system targeting if they like and have that a Fed only feature), a few other options too, including some more small craft a escort, and a cruiser like the Negh'Var suggested in another thread.
What we really need is quality content in terms of missions and costumes. Off duty isn't really required, though have whatever options they might consider adding to off duty placed in the standard line would be better. Like how the foundry Gorn wear the Fed mercenary set belts.
As for missions I'd like to see a continuation of the House Political rivalry, more Fek'lhri missions to find out what on Qo'Nos is going on there and something new, perhaps a Gorn rebellion, Hur"Q invasion or some continuation from Alpha.
I agree, to be totally honest at least one variant should come with the racial ships, same with the Federation non-Starfleet ones. Plus a pack for the Gorn, Naucassian and Orion so one has some options. This is a MMO and options and customization are one of the key factors right?
Need more Klingon ships.
Agreed! What I'd love to see would be a continuation and further development of the intrigue around the ascension of Chancellor J'Mpok, the death of Martok and the Durass/J'Mpok/Martok House rivalry.
Definitely a SCI cruiser.
Personally a Hegh or however it's spelled Brig Gen BOP. I LOVE THAT CRAFT! It's what sold me on going full time KDF for the most part now. That said I do think the Fed should have at least one open BOFF ship like the BOP.
Personally I'm a big Orion fan so I would love more of their ships available.
still say we need 1-50 and NO Fed requirement to play KDF. That would probably help the numbers go up.
and as stated before more uniform options!
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