Reason it was excluded (if you know): In an older podcast, Dan Stahl was asked about KDF fleet ships, and he made a really stupid comment about the varanus:
-It is not sexsy enough apparently (STUPID REASON)
-There is a Gorn Supporter in there already (not considering the FEDs have several Fleet SCI Ships)
+1 for a fleet Varanus. It's not that ugly and it's a sci ship.
I also want a unique Ferasan ship in the fleet in the fleet store, to get with my ferasan chars. Why not a c-store one? Because if it's like the soverign it willbe overpriced for average c-store ships abilities.
Reason it was excluded (if you know): In an older podcast, Dan Stahl was asked about KDF fleet ships, and he made a really stupid comment about the varanus:
-It is not sexsy enough apparently (STUPID REASON)
-There is a Gorn Supporter in there already (not considering the FEDs have several Fleet SCI Ships)
I would actually like to see a T5 Lieutenant General Gorn Science ship in the C-store. I like the Varanus and was thinking about buying it, but get the impression that it doesn't stand up well to the newer ships out there.
I guess the best pure Science ship option for the KDF at the moment, would be the Orb Weaver.
I would actually like to see a T5 Lieutenant General Gorn Science ship in the C-store. I like the Varanus and was thinking about buying it, but get the impression that it doesn't stand up well to the newer ships out there.
I guess the best pure Science ship option for the KDF at the moment, would be the Orb Weaver.
My Varanus holds its own easily in Fleet events and STFs as a Crowd Control/CC/Debuffer.
I would actually like to see a T5 Lieutenant General Gorn Science ship in the C-store. I like the Varanus and was thinking about buying it, but get the impression that it doesn't stand up well to the newer ships out there.
My opinion as well. If there as a great Gorn ship for that level, i'd make a Godzilla to fly it.
Cloaking generators break down at first sign of language.
The Varanus looks great and has good specs but its console sucks.
If it was worker-bees like it would be very nice. But a platform? Ugh thats just dumb. Ships have to go and park next to it to receive the hull heals. Yes... thats smart.. park your ship to receive hull healing while at the same time lowering your defense rating to zero so elite npc's can do ten times the damage to you than the repair drones will fix.
It wouldve made more sense if they had made the ship have a hull healing beam that 'jumps' from one friendly ship to another in a chain (similar to the anti-devidian rifle we get in ground) and works as long as the ships remain within 5km of each other. The beam would work just like Extend Shields (healing tick per second based on AUX power).
THEN the varanus and the console would be worth it.
IMOHPO...
I think KDF should have at least a few of our Cstore ships as fleet ships.
I mean if the Feds can have 5, can't we get 2-3 at least?
Ohwait..that's right...we are few in number and don't conribute to Cyrptic's pockets enough to warrent the Dev time...
I think I'm beginning to understand how the Blacks in America felt for almost 200 years...
Let us hope it doesn't take quite as long to get some type of equality in STO.
Lord Krueg
KBF CO We are the Dead
join date Aug 2008
Hegh'ta-F:
Hull: 26400
Shields: 4841
Turn: 21 .
Inertia: 60
Impulse mod: .2
Crew: 100
Tac Consoles: 3
Eng Consoles: 3
Sci Consoles: 4
Devices: 2
BOFFs: C Universal, C Universal, E Universal, E Universal
Weapon Power+15
Can Equip DCs/DHCs
Console rationale: The Hoh'Sus covers Tac, Eng is weaker than Tac and Sci, so that leaves Sci, which is pretty nice on BoPs, you can either pick some Sci abilities and boost them or just pack Field Gens.
BOFF rationale: Once again, different niche than Hoh'Sus. Yes, that's one less ability than normal, but given the rank-up it needs be done (it's either that or the pathetic Hull/Shields of the Ning'tao).
That said, a Hull buff for the Hoh'Sus would be nice.
it can't be that difficult to make it a requirement to have a guramba already to purchase it as a fleet version...same would be possible for the Galaxy X
My Varanus holds its own easily in Fleet events and STFs as a Crowd Control/CC/Debuffer.
Hmm...maybe I'll give it another look. I was thinking about trying to get an orb weaver, but not crazy about either playing the lottery or saving up the EC.
So...I am unclear...are there NOT going to be fleet versions of c-store ships? Because I'd be ok with a fleet version of my Orion Marauder Pig Carrier...
So...I am unclear...are there NOT going to be fleet versions of c-store ships? Because I'd be ok with a fleet version of my Orion Marauder Pig Carrier...
I doubt we will see that since we already have a fleet corsair. Would be nice to see some Klingon science ships. Closest things we have to science ships are the Voquv...and I suppose if you want to count it the Corsair with its lt cmdr science.
Feds have Eng, Tac, and Sci heavy science ships and we don't even have one fleet science vessel at all.
it can't be that difficult to make it a requirement to have a guramba already to purchase it as a fleet version...same would be possible for the Galaxy X
The Guramba and B'Rel my two favourite KDF ships. Both are awesome, in fact I'd say the Guramba has the best animation sequence in the whole game, makes the D'kora animation seem very poor.
But yeah we need more KDF T5 ships and the Gorn ship and Kar'Fi should have been added, I seriously can't see why they weren't. Made no logical sense. I would've considered buying both of those ships just to get the fleet ship at a discount. But at the current way it is, fleet ships are not worth it, no fleet ship unless you get the discount will I even consider getting.
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Simple fix, several ships such as the Defiant and Galaxy had their innate powers turn into consoles. Take the Varanus Repair Platform and make it a unique console. Solved.. make a fleet version with higher hull, shields, and a 4th engineer console.
Of course it will have to be renamed the Varanus Support Vessel to avoid confusion with the Fleet Version.
Same can be done for the Enhanced Battle Cloak on the B'rel and even the Guramba's transformation ability.
ATM There is no reason not to release a Fleet version of the Kar'fi and the Orion Marauder.
I would like to see all Cstore KDF ships have a fleet version.
Only the Kar'fi would be hard to explain since its a captured vessel. Maybe a Felk'iri KDF hyhybrid reasoning to use the Kar'fi stats (upgraded for fleet) with a different skin?
I would like to see all Cstore KDF ships have a fleet version.
Only the Kar'fi would be hard to explain since its a captured vessel. Maybe a Felk'iri KDF hyhybrid reasoning to use the Kar'fi stats (upgraded for fleet) with a different skin?
Reversed engineered and improved upon its original design.
We did it to the fighters and frigates when they added advanced pets.
I would like to see all Cstore KDF ships have a fleet version.
Only the Kar'fi would be hard to explain since its a captured vessel. Maybe a Felk'iri KDF hyhybrid reasoning to use the Kar'fi stats (upgraded for fleet) with a different skin?
This is a phenomenal idea Roach.
The marriage of KDF ship design to the Fek'lhr would be quite awesome, both in design and capability. This I would pay hard cash for.
Another design I have always yearned for was Lethean ships. What would they be like, I wonder?
I would like to see the klingons get the
Kavort class battlecruiser
As seen I'n the Tng episode Yesterdays
Enterprise
I would level my Klingon to command that ship
A new ship as a fleet ship Especially a buffed
Up battlecruiser should be a welcomed additition
To the Kdf fleet
The roman S-11 scout was beloved by the Klingons
When it was gained I'n the first roman/Klingon
Trade agreement and was copied and produced I'n
4 versions by the Empire
Bird of prey..............scout
Strong bird...............cruiser
Great bird.................heavy cruiser
Kavort.......................Battlecruiser
Jellico....Engineer ground.....Da'val Romulan space Sci
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
theres a fleet orian tier 4 ship, a fleet nasican tier 4 ship, but theres no fleet tier 4 gorn ship. why? according to gecko they all look the same so they didn't bother.
:rolleyes: it would be 1 thing if there was already a fleet varanus, but theres not. not a single sci ship for the kdf at all. just for the sake of consistency there should be a fleet tier 4 gorn ship, maybe with a recon sci station setup.
I'd like a ship with 5 tac consoles.
And we need more accessories for our ships, IE. mudflaps, trucknuts, running boards, ect.
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Simple fix, several ships such as the Defiant and Galaxy had their innate powers turn into consoles. Take the Varanus Repair Platform and make it a unique console. Solved.. make a fleet version with higher hull, shields, and a 4th engineer console.
Of course it will have to be renamed the Varanus Support Vessel to avoid confusion with the Fleet Version.
Same can be done for the Enhanced Battle Cloak on the B'rel and even the Guramba's transformation ability.
ATM There is no reason not to release a Fleet version of the Kar'fi and the Orion Marauder.
No I don't want my enhanced battle cloak turned into a console, that leaves me with 1 less console slot, so even If I get a Fleet B'rel with an extra console slot it is wasted anyway. This would also be a major nerf to B'rel owners who don't have the Fleet Version.
Why not just make it so that Z-Store ships with innate abilities like the B'rel, Guramba, Varanus, and Dreadnought are required to be purchased if you want to be able to get the fleet version.
I would like to see all Cstore KDF ships have a fleet version.
Only the Kar'fi would be hard to explain since its a captured vessel. Maybe a Felk'iri KDF hyhybrid reasoning to use the Kar'fi stats (upgraded for fleet) with a different skin?
This...at least 3-4 of the more popular ones should be there.
Hm...If you could get more KDF missions at the Starbase...?
now that would be cool...
Oh, wait, that's right...to expensive to develop...let's make more ships you have to pay for instead.
Lord Krueg
KBF CO We are the Dead
join date Aug 2008
In short: all Tier 5 C-Store ships, such as Varanus, Marauder or the Kar'Fi.
The lack of these three bugs the hell out of me. I don't think there's any reason not to include them, as they don't come with any integraded special abilities, like several FED ships do.
The Kar'Fi has become one of my all time favourite STO ship configuration. It's basically a monster in PvE and its mixture of tactical and science capabilities made it a perfect choice for my Sci. Sadly, there's no Fleet variant to look forward to, nor any other similar ship in store. No idea why.
At one point I was really fond of the Marauder. It's basically a tank-cruiser with a bonus hangar, which made it a blast to fly. But nope - no Fleet variant here either. Instead we've got the inferior Corsair with completely different boff configuration (too science oriented). I remember some dev saying at one point that the Marauder is ugly and the Corsair and Dacoit are in a way fix for that. I call this BS, as even design-wise this ship is great and unique, and considering it doesn't come with any special ability there should be absolutely NO problem introducing a fleet variant.
Finally, Varanus. And before anyone points this out - no, I don't want any other Gorn ship retrofit, as they in nature have inferior stats when compared to proper tier 5 fleet variants. This one should be considered a priority as well, looking at how there's absolutely no proper KDF fleet science ships.
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I also want a unique Ferasan ship in the fleet in the fleet store, to get with my ferasan chars. Why not a c-store one? Because if it's like the soverign it willbe overpriced for average c-store ships abilities.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
that way we can have a fleet BoP that doesn't suck.
I would actually like to see a T5 Lieutenant General Gorn Science ship in the C-store. I like the Varanus and was thinking about buying it, but get the impression that it doesn't stand up well to the newer ships out there.
I guess the best pure Science ship option for the KDF at the moment, would be the Orb Weaver.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpfbJLLbczs
Besides, that would mean KDF finally get a ship that can have a discount on the fleet mods.
My Varanus holds its own easily in Fleet events and STFs as a Crowd Control/CC/Debuffer.
My opinion as well. If there as a great Gorn ship for that level, i'd make a Godzilla to fly it.
If it was worker-bees like it would be very nice. But a platform? Ugh thats just dumb. Ships have to go and park next to it to receive the hull heals. Yes... thats smart.. park your ship to receive hull healing while at the same time lowering your defense rating to zero so elite npc's can do ten times the damage to you than the repair drones will fix.
It wouldve made more sense if they had made the ship have a hull healing beam that 'jumps' from one friendly ship to another in a chain (similar to the anti-devidian rifle we get in ground) and works as long as the ships remain within 5km of each other. The beam would work just like Extend Shields (healing tick per second based on AUX power).
THEN the varanus and the console would be worth it.
But as it is now.. its a joke.
I think KDF should have at least a few of our Cstore ships as fleet ships.
I mean if the Feds can have 5, can't we get 2-3 at least?
Ohwait..that's right...we are few in number and don't conribute to Cyrptic's pockets enough to warrent the Dev time...
I think I'm beginning to understand how the Blacks in America felt for almost 200 years...
Let us hope it doesn't take quite as long to get some type of equality in STO.
KBF CO
We are the Dead
join date Aug 2008
Hull: 26400
Shields: 4841
Turn: 21 .
Inertia: 60
Impulse mod: .2
Crew: 100
Tac Consoles: 3
Eng Consoles: 3
Sci Consoles: 4
Devices: 2
BOFFs: C Universal, C Universal, E Universal, E Universal
Weapon Power+15
Can Equip DCs/DHCs
Console rationale: The Hoh'Sus covers Tac, Eng is weaker than Tac and Sci, so that leaves Sci, which is pretty nice on BoPs, you can either pick some Sci abilities and boost them or just pack Field Gens.
BOFF rationale: Once again, different niche than Hoh'Sus. Yes, that's one less ability than normal, but given the rank-up it needs be done (it's either that or the pathetic Hull/Shields of the Ning'tao).
That said, a Hull buff for the Hoh'Sus would be nice.
it can't be that difficult to make it a requirement to have a guramba already to purchase it as a fleet version...same would be possible for the Galaxy X
Hmm...maybe I'll give it another look. I was thinking about trying to get an orb weaver, but not crazy about either playing the lottery or saving up the EC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpfbJLLbczs
Reason: It's da Klingon ship !!!!1111
One more tac console and more hitpoints.
I doubt we will see that since we already have a fleet corsair. Would be nice to see some Klingon science ships. Closest things we have to science ships are the Voquv...and I suppose if you want to count it the Corsair with its lt cmdr science.
Feds have Eng, Tac, and Sci heavy science ships and we don't even have one fleet science vessel at all.
Indeed! :cool:
The Guramba and B'Rel my two favourite KDF ships. Both are awesome, in fact I'd say the Guramba has the best animation sequence in the whole game, makes the D'kora animation seem very poor.
But yeah we need more KDF T5 ships and the Gorn ship and Kar'Fi should have been added, I seriously can't see why they weren't. Made no logical sense. I would've considered buying both of those ships just to get the fleet ship at a discount. But at the current way it is, fleet ships are not worth it, no fleet ship unless you get the discount will I even consider getting.
Of course it will have to be renamed the Varanus Support Vessel to avoid confusion with the Fleet Version.
Same can be done for the Enhanced Battle Cloak on the B'rel and even the Guramba's transformation ability.
ATM There is no reason not to release a Fleet version of the Kar'fi and the Orion Marauder.
Only the Kar'fi would be hard to explain since its a captured vessel. Maybe a Felk'iri KDF hyhybrid reasoning to use the Kar'fi stats (upgraded for fleet) with a different skin?
R.I.P
Reversed engineered and improved upon its original design.
We did it to the fighters and frigates when they added advanced pets.
This is a phenomenal idea Roach.
The marriage of KDF ship design to the Fek'lhr would be quite awesome, both in design and capability. This I would pay hard cash for.
Another design I have always yearned for was Lethean ships. What would they be like, I wonder?
Kavort class battlecruiser
As seen I'n the Tng episode Yesterdays
Enterprise
I would level my Klingon to command that ship
A new ship as a fleet ship Especially a buffed
Up battlecruiser should be a welcomed additition
To the Kdf fleet
The roman S-11 scout was beloved by the Klingons
When it was gained I'n the first roman/Klingon
Trade agreement and was copied and produced I'n
4 versions by the Empire
Bird of prey..............scout
Strong bird...............cruiser
Great bird.................heavy cruiser
Kavort.......................Battlecruiser
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
This a billion times. Why the heck is there no fleet Hegh'Ta? It's the one fleet ship that there NEEDS to be.
EDIT: Cryptic/PWE should make a Hegh'Ta skin available for the Fleet Hoh'Sus, the Hoh'Sus is butt ugly.
:rolleyes: it would be 1 thing if there was already a fleet varanus, but theres not. not a single sci ship for the kdf at all. just for the sake of consistency there should be a fleet tier 4 gorn ship, maybe with a recon sci station setup.
And we need more accessories for our ships, IE. mudflaps, trucknuts, running boards, ect.
No I don't want my enhanced battle cloak turned into a console, that leaves me with 1 less console slot, so even If I get a Fleet B'rel with an extra console slot it is wasted anyway. This would also be a major nerf to B'rel owners who don't have the Fleet Version.
Why not just make it so that Z-Store ships with innate abilities like the B'rel, Guramba, Varanus, and Dreadnought are required to be purchased if you want to be able to get the fleet version.
This...at least 3-4 of the more popular ones should be there.
Hm...If you could get more KDF missions at the Starbase...?
now that would be cool...
Oh, wait, that's right...to expensive to develop...let's make more ships you have to pay for instead.
KBF CO
We are the Dead
join date Aug 2008
The lack of these three bugs the hell out of me. I don't think there's any reason not to include them, as they don't come with any integraded special abilities, like several FED ships do.
The Kar'Fi has become one of my all time favourite STO ship configuration. It's basically a monster in PvE and its mixture of tactical and science capabilities made it a perfect choice for my Sci. Sadly, there's no Fleet variant to look forward to, nor any other similar ship in store. No idea why.
At one point I was really fond of the Marauder. It's basically a tank-cruiser with a bonus hangar, which made it a blast to fly. But nope - no Fleet variant here either. Instead we've got the inferior Corsair with completely different boff configuration (too science oriented). I remember some dev saying at one point that the Marauder is ugly and the Corsair and Dacoit are in a way fix for that. I call this BS, as even design-wise this ship is great and unique, and considering it doesn't come with any special ability there should be absolutely NO problem introducing a fleet variant.
Finally, Varanus. And before anyone points this out - no, I don't want any other Gorn ship retrofit, as they in nature have inferior stats when compared to proper tier 5 fleet variants. This one should be considered a priority as well, looking at how there's absolutely no proper KDF fleet science ships.