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  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    chalpen wrote: »
    How can cryptic make a destroyer class for both factions that is good for all classes?

    It bothers me. What would a engineering based destroyer look like?
    Destroyers are all tac based.
    "UNi slots"? I don't know. You will need a lot of uni slots to make it good. The only destroyer with unislots is the Jen hadar ship and it is still tac based.
    If it doesn't have 10 consoles there Is no point.

    Also, since there is a Klingon ship, it will have cloak/canons?
    And for the Feds side a "Ilose" button?

    The temporal destoyers also have universal slots, the LTC and a lieutenant. Still tac based, but you can make it lean towards engineering or science.


    Anyway, the term destroyer isn't really applied consistently. It's hard to put the Aquarius, Guramaba, and Mobius in the same set. Not enough of a pattern to follow or break.

    There's an easy way to break the "tac based" pattern, though. Universal commander and ensign, LTC tac, LT engineer and sci. Would still be tac leaning in any setup, but only tac based if you make it.
  • whamhammer1whamhammer1 Member Posts: 2,290 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Well if it's one of the contest entries, I hope it's this one:

    http://chrismaddenart.com/ent-f_final.jpg

    NM I didn't see someone else say the same thing. :p

    I actually like the looks of that. Whatever you do, don't let the died in the wool Galaxy supporters see that, its way too sleek and elongated. :D
  • direphoenixdirephoenix Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Well if it's one of the contest entries, I hope it's this one:

    http://chrismaddenart.com/ent-f_final.jpg

    NM I didn't see someone else say the same thing. :p

    Isn't that the Cruiser refit Exeter?
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  • syberghostsyberghost Member Posts: 1,711 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Giant player-flyable tribble. Only comes in brown, but you can buy other colors and patterns in the C-store. Hot Pink, Lime Green, Safety Orange, and Lemon Yellow are only available for Lobi.
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  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Isn't that the Cruiser refit Exeter?

    They're similar, but no.

    Exeter
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  • theultimatextheultimatex Member Posts: 489 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    timelord79 wrote: »
    Ok, just checked my account. I am one month away from this accolade now.
    Taking my "lost" month into account because of that extra 30 free days I got from a special edition key, shouldn't the veteran ship be in game pretty much now?

    I am 24 days or less than a month away. :D
  • pyryckpyryck Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    With 7 days to go, I think we're getting a perpetually Perpetual ship design that every one has seen derelict in the DSE's. :eek:
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    pyryck wrote: »
    With 7 days to go, I think we're getting a perpetually Perpetual ship design that every one has seen derelict in the DSE's. :eek:

    If memory serves, the venture is the Cryptic variant of that ship...
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
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  • jaturnleyjaturnley Member Posts: 1,218 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Six days.

    I for one am glad that they picked a DD for the design. Escorts are the most versatile choice, and the ones most affected by loadout of the three. You can pump up an escort to tank to a decent degree, but you can't make a cruiser fly like an escort without some serious compromises. I can hardly wait to see them!
  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I'm only at 932, I've got a looong wait yet.

    It'll be interesting to see what it is though.
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  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 4,115 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    With my account at 993 days (IE 7 days to go to 1000); it would be nice if we had SOME concrete info on the ship/reward beyond "It's a ship!" :D
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  • jaturnleyjaturnley Member Posts: 1,218 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    We do, kinda. We know that there is one each for Fed and KDF, that they are destroyer class, that they look like smaller armored cruisers, and they have some sort of moving/transforming aspects. There is a blog post coming next week with details and priority one has pics on Monday.
  • kandorouskandorous Member Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    It is also been stated it is one of the Design the Enterprise F entry ships.
  • maxwilsonmaxwilson Member Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I'm at 987 days left. So I'm looking forward to the new ship. Hopefully it's something new not just a new costume.

    I think for those of us that make it first to 1000 days, we deserve MUCH more than what's on the list so far. But that's just me.
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  • qweeble#7491 qweeble Member Posts: 164 Cryptic Developer
    edited October 2012
    With my account at 993 days (IE 7 days to go to 1000); it would be nice if we had SOME concrete info on the ship/reward beyond "It's a ship!" :D

    It's two ships! One Fed, one Klingon.
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  • whamhammer1whamhammer1 Member Posts: 2,290 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I am still hoping for the pre-order Fed' carrier that Bran Flakes talked about last April.

    "Introducing the new Federation Carrier – the U.S.S. Enterprise!

    Soon all Star Trek Online players will finally be able to get behind the helm of one of the most powerful warships ever built on a Federation homeworld.

    The U.S.S. Enterprise features a full launch deck, capable of carrying and deploying brave men & women into battle aboard their own personal craft, and allowing them to land again with relative safety. It boasts a powerful enough engine and core to operate for years away from the nearest friendly port, and can operate as a fully-functional and self-reliant frontline base of operations in the event of an extended campaign away from home. It also carries some of the most state-of-the-art armaments available, and is fully capable of holding its own in a firefight even after its squadrons of fighters have been launched.

    Behold our first WIP rendering of this fine ship: click here to view the photo.

    Coming Soon to a C-Store near you!


    Link to the pre-order."
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I am still hoping for the pre-order Fed' carrier that Bran Flakes talked about last April.

    "Introducing the new Federation Carrier – the U.S.S. Enterprise!

    Soon all Star Trek Online players will finally be able to get behind the helm of one of the most powerful warships ever built on a Federation homeworld.

    The U.S.S. Enterprise features a full launch deck, capable of carrying and deploying brave men & women into battle aboard their own personal craft, and allowing them to land again with relative safety. It boasts a powerful enough engine and core to operate for years away from the nearest friendly port, and can operate as a fully-functional and self-reliant frontline base of operations in the event of an extended campaign away from home. It also carries some of the most state-of-the-art armaments available, and is fully capable of holding its own in a firefight even after its squadrons of fighters have been launched.

    Behold our first WIP rendering of this fine ship: click here to view the photo.

    Coming Soon to a C-Store near you!


    Link to the pre-order."

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  • altechachanaltechachan Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I am still hoping for the pre-order Fed' carrier that Bran Flakes talked about last April.

    "Introducing the new Federation Carrier – the U.S.S. Enterprise!

    Soon all Star Trek Online players will finally be able to get behind the helm of one of the most powerful warships ever built on a Federation homeworld.

    The U.S.S. Enterprise features a full launch deck, capable of carrying and deploying brave men & women into battle aboard their own personal craft, and allowing them to land again with relative safety. It boasts a powerful enough engine and core to operate for years away from the nearest friendly port, and can operate as a fully-functional and self-reliant frontline base of operations in the event of an extended campaign away from home. It also carries some of the most state-of-the-art armaments available, and is fully capable of holding its own in a firefight even after its squadrons of fighters have been launched.

    Behold our first WIP rendering of this fine ship: click here to view the photo.

    Coming Soon to a C-Store near you!


    Link to the pre-order."

    Heh, I found that post. The Pre-Order link is awesome.
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  • pyryckpyryck Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited October 2012
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  • pyryckpyryck Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    jaturnley wrote: »
    We do, kinda. We know that there is one each for Fed and KDF, that they are destroyer class, that they look like smaller armored cruisers, and they have some sort of moving/transforming aspects. There is a blog post coming next week with details and priority one has pics on Monday.


    Your description sounds an awful lot like an Aquarius...and it's KDF counterpart.

    The Fleet versions have been added to T4 or T5 shipyards (can't remember which) so they won't have any competition in game for a few more months.

    But they do look like they would be "fun" to fly.

    p.s. quoted wrong post :(
  • syberghostsyberghost Member Posts: 1,711 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    It's two ships! One Fed, one Klingon.

    Hey, look at that; now we have TWICE as much info!

    :D
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    syberghost wrote: »
    Hey, look at that; now we have TWICE as much info!

    :D

    1.5 times as much unless the Klingon ship is ALSO one of the Design the Next Enterprise entries. ;-)
  • cptrichardson12cptrichardson12 Member Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    So, if it's a DtnE ship, it's likely either Maddens or the Fuzzyprise, considering those were the two that the fanbase went nuts over. Though the 'moving bits' piece doesn't fit any of those designs. Hmmm.
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    So, if it's a DtnE ship, it's likely either Maddens or the Fuzzyprise, considering those were the two that the fanbase went nuts over. Though the 'moving bits' piece doesn't fit any of those designs. Hmmm.

    Are you kidding? The Fuzzyprize looks like two ships clamped together.

    I'm assuming if they made it, it would probably split into saucer/nacelles and boat... and maybe the pylons would lower and the saucer/nacelle part would turn upside down in combat mode, raising the question of which side is up for people inside the ship. :-)
  • cptrichardson12cptrichardson12 Member Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Are you kidding? The Fuzzyprize looks like two ships clamped together.

    I'm assuming if they made it, it would probably split into saucer/nacelles and boat... and maybe the pylons would lower and the saucer/nacelle part would turn upside down in combat mode, raising the question of which side is up for people inside the ship. :-)

    It still utterly dominated the popular vote, though. Which points to the fact that people like the directions it took. Granted, they'd probably broad-strokes it like the current 'enterprise', but stealing stuff off of it to make a sweet ship would make a lot of people happy.
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    It still utterly dominated the popular vote, though. Which points to the fact that people like the directions it took. Granted, they'd probably broad-strokes it like the current 'enterprise', but stealing stuff off of it to make a sweet ship would make a lot of people happy.

    Not disputing people like it. I might fly it on an alt.

    But my point was that there'd be nothing weird about it having moving parts or transforming.

    It LOOKs like a ship that could split, do multi-vector, or transform somehow. Really, any ship that isn't all curves and contours and is larger than the Defiant looks like a ship that's supposed to split or transform to me.
  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    1.5 times as much unless the Klingon ship is ALSO one of the Design the Next Enterprise entries. ;-)

    I wonder if it could be one of those other KDF flagship proposals. We know there were several concepts, and if I remember right, we never saw any of the scrapped ones.
  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    What is this "Fuzzyprise" you people keep talking about?
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  • jaturnleyjaturnley Member Posts: 1,218 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    pyryck wrote: »
    Your description sounds an awful lot like an Aquarius...and it's KDF counterpart.

    The Fleet versions have been added to T4 or T5 shipyards (can't remember which) so they won't have any competition in game for a few more months.

    But they do look like they would be "fun" to fly.

    p.s. quoted wrong post :(

    Well, the Moebius is also a destroyer, and I am hope that they followed that template rather than the Aquarius. We will see next week on Priority One.
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