Yet again we are forced to endure another Fed costume pack. But once again never one for KDF. Where is/are:
Captain Klaa fingerless gloves?
Captain Klaa hair?
General Chang set?
Chancellor Gorkon set?
Azetbur set?
Rura Penthe commandant set?
d'k tahg as a KDF uniform accessory?
Painsticks?
Lursa and B'Etor skirts?
Fix for the clipping of Klingon hair with pauldrons?
Fix for weapons clipping with pauldrons?
When are we going to see this?
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If possible, sell parts of uniforms of orions, gorn, nauusican, mercenary and other random npc stuff in a whole pack to at least fill the absence of any uniform set to KDF toons.
I see people playing STF elite to get honor guard parts only to chance the costumes. I see people spending a lot of money to open lockbox or pay high for a small skirt or scarf only to get a different thing in visual of your toon.
If continue this way, without any costume support to KDF players, we will see people doing some unoffical mods on the game just to have a new look in your toon, or just for fun or because are too desesperate to have anything to kdf.
More costume options and make some of the current species-specific ones more avaliable to all species. I want a Gorn in a bikini, haha.
Another big thing biting the KDF in the lower back is their lack of customization. You want to know why KDF is under played, its because people can't make their character as unique as they can for a Fed.
Cloaking generators break down at first sign of language.
Personally I would like some more sensible Orion female clothing.
Sure, we've got the standard Klink-based options, but that's a bit too conservative for Orions who normally wear stripper clothes, so my proposal is somewhere in between in terms of practicality vs. stripper-ness.
On level of exposure, maybe something like TOS-level (short skirts and/or exposed shoulders) or Mirror Enterprise (midriff).
And in the interest of gender equality, also give males similar options.
Like all KDF fans I agree with what has to be said. I also think Aliens and Joined Trills should be able to use all species parts, it would be cool and open more costume options at least for those species. But we really need more costume parts and the shoulder pad errors fixed as well.
Come on Dev's are you even paying attention to what paying customers who have the money and want to spend on the KDF are requesting?
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Romulan uniform
Prisioner Uniform (the same of the 2046 mission)
The FED mercenary uniform to kdf, because is awesome...
Costumes parts like Jackets, coats, armpads, boots, belts.
Marks of war parts: A part to make the arm or hand of a toon become invisible, like you "lose" in battle. Or place a hook. KDF warriors have pride of your combat scars. Losing a hand can make a awesome rp story.
May I remind the posters in this thread what the point of an uniform is ? Only thing I miss are the grey coats. I mean my toon is general, yet he can't have a proper uniform !?
Oh and Lethean uniforms. They are completely missing.
May I remind the posters in this thread what the point of an uniform is ? Only thing I miss are the grey coats. I mean my toon is general, yet he can't have a proper uniform !?
Oh and Lethean uniforms. They are completely missing.
Sure we know.
And this is also the KDF.
Look at episodes like DS9's "Soldiers of the Empire" and you'll see Klingons have a rather loose definition of the term.:)
Honestly, they need to just bundle KDF and Fed costuming together in the same purchase. Remove the distinction between what faction sells more stuff. Might also encourage more Feds to try KDF or play their KDF alts. Just like the mission content - only produce cross-faction C-Store releases.
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We're missing the proper boots and of course the female version from "Day of the Dove".
what I'm confused about is that women have less boot options than the men.
An armored shirt does not a TOS Klingon make. You're still an alien. Not an authentic TOS Klingon.
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Personally I would like some more sensible Orion female clothing.
Sure, we've got the standard Klink-based options, but that's a bit too conservative for Orions who normally wear stripper clothes, so my proposal is somewhere in between in terms of practicality vs. stripper-ness.
On level of exposure, maybe something like TOS-level (short skirts and/or exposed shoulders) or Mirror Enterprise (midriff).
And in the interest of gender equality, also give males similar options.
This is a very good point, my sexy Orion would be happier with a more conservative option than stripper, while still remaining femenine.
Geez really, how 'bout some boots that DON'T look like used costume parts from KISS?
(Like, maybe, something that isn't sporting weed-catching spikes??)
This is importnant as well, the only non-"KISS" boots we have make our lower legs and feet look small and compact, we are warriors not hybrid prius's.
Cloaking generators break down at first sign of language.
This is easiest way I can explain this to Cryptic. You speak of metrics with the KDF and that its not worth your time to get money from KDF players which is kind of redundant since we are customers and would probally spend money if there was something new to buy on the KDF side (all we do is buy collectors items for our feds who sit and collect dust). Simple aspects of Supply and Demand... If there is a supply there will be a demand... Without the supply which is the situation here is there is no demand which your metrics only validate your statements if you make something for people to even have a demand for
I just hope that was easy enough to be understood that you cannot expect demand for something that hasn't been made yet.
An armored shirt does not a TOS Klingon make. You're still an alien. Not an authentic TOS Klingon.
karmapoint said "The TOS bundle give you a armor/shirt of TOS Klingon."
Nowhere does it state TOS Klingon character or anything like that.
So what's your point?
Another alternative is packs, packs of random Klingon looking boots, belts, shirts etc. Not a specific uniform but parts so us players can customise it to our heart is content. It would allow many variations and keep us happy, along with the few uniforms mentioned by others in this thread.
Also why not some civilian cloths as seen in the TNG and DS9 series, yes we are in the military but why not some variation, isn't that part of a MMO, customisation and variation? I'd also like to see the Mercenary set as a standard uniform on the KDF side, perhaps update the existing package for us KDF players.
Support the Game by Supporting the KDF, equality and uniqueness for all factions!
Another alternative is packs, packs of random Klingon looking boots, belts, shirts etc. Not a specific uniform but parts so us players can customise it to our heart is content. It would allow many variations and keep us happy, along with the few uniforms mentioned by others in this thread.
Also why not some civilian cloths as seen in the TNG and DS9 series, yes we are in the military but why not some variation, isn't that part of a MMO, customisation and variation? I'd also like to see the Mercenary set as a standard uniform on the KDF side, perhaps update the existing package for us KDF players.
I could go along with this idea. Random bits and bobs that we can mix and match to make distinct outfits would be nice to have, so long as it comes with some properly Klingon skirts for the women.
I would also like to see the Mercenary set that is usable by the Feds to be added to the KDF as well. Since it already exists that shouldn't be too much of an issue to do.
karmapoint said "The TOS bundle give you a armor/shirt of TOS Klingon."
Nowhere does it state TOS Klingon character or anything like that.
So what's your point?
My point is it's an option that is presently lacking which is the topic of discussion. What's your point?
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Another alternative is packs, packs of random Klingon looking boots, belts, shirts etc. Not a specific uniform but parts so us players can customise it to our heart is content. It would allow many variations and keep us happy, along with the few uniforms mentioned by others in this thread.
Also why not some civilian cloths as seen in the TNG and DS9 series, yes we are in the military but why not some variation, isn't that part of a MMO, customisation and variation? I'd also like to see the Mercenary set as a standard uniform on the KDF side, perhaps update the existing package for us KDF players.
Why should we settle for more cheap imitations of gear when we already have that? You don't see bargain basement knockoffs of Fed TOS or TNG packs sold in the C-Store. Cryptic's method may be continued beatings until morale improves but why should we capitulate and accept more substandard work especially if we're paying for it? The more randomized customization options should be free and already available.
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My point is it's an option that is presently lacking which is the topic of discussion. What's your point?
My point is that carmapoint's position that some kind of TOS pack is required for something that is already in this game is not valid.
In additin I don't see you anything about a TOS option of any kind in your opening of this thread.
Neither as a costume option (which the name of this thread leads me to believe this is about) nor as a species option.
My point is that carmapoint's position that some kind of TOS pack is required for something that is already in this game is not valid.
In additin I don't see you anything about a TOS option of any kind in your opening of this thread.
Neither as a costume option (which the name of this thread leads me to believe this is about) nor as a species option.
Proofread before you attempt to mince words.
Jack Emmert: "Starfleet and Klingon. ... So two factions, full PvE content." Al Rivera hates Klingons Star Trek Online: Agents of Jack Emmert All cloaks should be canon.
Cryptic/PWE, you've got to spend money to make money. KDF costume options are sorely lacking. Unless you really half-TRIBBLE it, you can't lose here.
Jack Emmert: "Starfleet and Klingon. ... So two factions, full PvE content." Al Rivera hates Klingons Star Trek Online: Agents of Jack Emmert All cloaks should be canon.
I don't mince.
And my sincerest apologies that I bothered to write a reply that has an error in it that is most likely because it is very late in my timezone.
I will avoid discussions with you in the future if you are so very sensitive about this.
(if you find any typos in here you my keep them)
And just for completeness, here's my corrected answer:
"My point is that carmapoint's position that some kind of TOS pack is required for something that is already in this game is not valid.
In additin I don't see you mentioning anything about a TOS option of any kind in your opening of this thread.
Neither as a costume option (which the name of this thread leads me to believe this is about) nor as a species option."
There it is folks. Official notification from misterde3 has arrived! TOS items were not met with his approval. No TOS Klingon item is a valid costume request and therefore cannot be submitted. Pack it up. We're done here. Everyone be sure to thank misterde3 for his gracious accommodations upon exiting the building.
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An AV suit is good, but we need more sets.
If possible, sell parts of uniforms of orions, gorn, nauusican, mercenary and other random npc stuff in a whole pack to at least fill the absence of any uniform set to KDF toons.
I see people playing STF elite to get honor guard parts only to chance the costumes. I see people spending a lot of money to open lockbox or pay high for a small skirt or scarf only to get a different thing in visual of your toon.
If continue this way, without any costume support to KDF players, we will see people doing some unoffical mods on the game just to have a new look in your toon, or just for fun or because are too desesperate to have anything to kdf.
(not encouraging, just commenting)
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Another big thing biting the KDF in the lower back is their lack of customization. You want to know why KDF is under played, its because people can't make their character as unique as they can for a Fed.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Or male orion outift with the nausicaan armpads.
The TOS bundle give you a armor/shirt of TOS Klingon. You can use this in any character.
But without offense, we are a little tired with the same Klingon armor outfit with small changes.
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We already got those:
http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/1777/screenshot2012030616391.jpg
We're missing the proper boots and of course the female version from "Day of the Dove".
what I'm confused about is that women have less boot options than the men.
Sure, we've got the standard Klink-based options, but that's a bit too conservative for Orions who normally wear stripper clothes, so my proposal is somewhere in between in terms of practicality vs. stripper-ness.
On level of exposure, maybe something like TOS-level (short skirts and/or exposed shoulders) or Mirror Enterprise (midriff).
And in the interest of gender equality, also give males similar options.
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Come on Dev's are you even paying attention to what paying customers who have the money and want to spend on the KDF are requesting?
Shut up and take my money!
Romulan uniform
Prisioner Uniform (the same of the 2046 mission)
The FED mercenary uniform to kdf, because is awesome...
Costumes parts like Jackets, coats, armpads, boots, belts.
Marks of war parts: A part to make the arm or hand of a toon become invisible, like you "lose" in battle. Or place a hook. KDF warriors have pride of your combat scars. Losing a hand can make a awesome rp story.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Oh and Lethean uniforms. They are completely missing.
Sure we know.
And this is also the KDF.
Look at episodes like DS9's "Soldiers of the Empire" and you'll see Klingons have a rather loose definition of the term.:)
ALL HOLDINGS FINISHED! - Starbase 5-5-5-5 || Embassy 3-3-3 || Mine 3-3-3 || Spire 3-3-3
A laid back KDF fleet welcoming independent, casual, & part-time players and groups. Roms & alts welcome.
Send in-game mail to Wampaq@Jnoh, visit our recruitment thread and FB page for more info.
An armored shirt does not a TOS Klingon make. You're still an alien. Not an authentic TOS Klingon.
Al Rivera hates Klingons
Star Trek Online: Agents of Jack Emmert
All cloaks should be canon.
This is a very good point, my sexy Orion would be happier with a more conservative option than stripper, while still remaining femenine.
This is importnant as well, the only non-"KISS" boots we have make our lower legs and feet look small and compact, we are warriors not hybrid prius's.
This is easiest way I can explain this to Cryptic. You speak of metrics with the KDF and that its not worth your time to get money from KDF players which is kind of redundant since we are customers and would probally spend money if there was something new to buy on the KDF side (all we do is buy collectors items for our feds who sit and collect dust). Simple aspects of Supply and Demand... If there is a supply there will be a demand... Without the supply which is the situation here is there is no demand which your metrics only validate your statements if you make something for people to even have a demand for
I just hope that was easy enough to be understood that you cannot expect demand for something that hasn't been made yet.
karmapoint said "The TOS bundle give you a armor/shirt of TOS Klingon."
Nowhere does it state TOS Klingon character or anything like that.
So what's your point?
Also why not some civilian cloths as seen in the TNG and DS9 series, yes we are in the military but why not some variation, isn't that part of a MMO, customisation and variation? I'd also like to see the Mercenary set as a standard uniform on the KDF side, perhaps update the existing package for us KDF players.
I could go along with this idea. Random bits and bobs that we can mix and match to make distinct outfits would be nice to have, so long as it comes with some properly Klingon skirts for the women.
I would also like to see the Mercenary set that is usable by the Feds to be added to the KDF as well. Since it already exists that shouldn't be too much of an issue to do.
My point is it's an option that is presently lacking which is the topic of discussion. What's your point?
Al Rivera hates Klingons
Star Trek Online: Agents of Jack Emmert
All cloaks should be canon.
Why should we settle for more cheap imitations of gear when we already have that? You don't see bargain basement knockoffs of Fed TOS or TNG packs sold in the C-Store. Cryptic's method may be continued beatings until morale improves but why should we capitulate and accept more substandard work especially if we're paying for it? The more randomized customization options should be free and already available.
Al Rivera hates Klingons
Star Trek Online: Agents of Jack Emmert
All cloaks should be canon.
My point is that carmapoint's position that some kind of TOS pack is required for something that is already in this game is not valid.
In additin I don't see you anything about a TOS option of any kind in your opening of this thread.
Neither as a costume option (which the name of this thread leads me to believe this is about) nor as a species option.
Proofread before you attempt to mince words.
Al Rivera hates Klingons
Star Trek Online: Agents of Jack Emmert
All cloaks should be canon.
Al Rivera hates Klingons
Star Trek Online: Agents of Jack Emmert
All cloaks should be canon.
I don't mince.
And my sincerest apologies that I bothered to write a reply that has an error in it that is most likely because it is very late in my timezone.
I will avoid discussions with you in the future if you are so very sensitive about this.
(if you find any typos in here you my keep them)
And just for completeness, here's my corrected answer:
"My point is that carmapoint's position that some kind of TOS pack is required for something that is already in this game is not valid.
In additin I don't see you mentioning anything about a TOS option of any kind in your opening of this thread.
Neither as a costume option (which the name of this thread leads me to believe this is about) nor as a species option."
correction in "Royal Blue"
Happy now?
Al Rivera hates Klingons
Star Trek Online: Agents of Jack Emmert
All cloaks should be canon.