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Season 6 Dev Blog #22

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  • jkstocbrjkstocbr Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I can't believe you guys quoted "activate manual steering column". That is one of the most embaressing moments in Star Trek movie history - /facepalm
  • raj011raj011 Member Posts: 987 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    jkstocbr wrote: »
    I can't believe you guys quoted "activate manual steering column". That is one of the most embaressing moments in Star Trek movie history - /facepalm

    I liked it, even though ya the helm could of done what riker did but there must be a reason, the writers etc will think of one. Remember its a science FICTION movie. Wish we had that and a new bridge as well.
  • ussultimatumussultimatum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    4 Tac Consoles (and 2 Sci consoles) and I would bite on this ship - so I'll have to pass for the time being as a Fleet Retrofit is a long time away for me and I don't see a point to downgrading from the Ody until that's available.

    Otherwise, I think it's mostly the right direction for the Sovy - sad that the chance to make it actually an assault ship was lost and it retains its slow Fed Turtle roots with a 7 base turn and beam arrays - but that was to be expected from Cryptic's overly formulaic ship design framework (i.e. only KDF and Lockbox cruisers get to actually have the stats most people want cruisers to have).


    Maybe someone bright on the dev team couldwatch this clip and calculate the turn rate? :P


    I'm sure a ton of these will be sold.
  • mewimewi Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Is anyone else bothered by the fact that this is yet another cruiser?
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  • suavekssuaveks Member Posts: 1,736 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    mewi wrote: »
    Is anyone else bothered by the fact that this is yet another cruiser?
    Not as much as I'm bothered by the fact that it's just a typical VA/RA ship variant which we'll have to buy again in a Fleet version for additional 5$ later on. And yet it's still priced at 2500 Zen - the same as the superior Odyssey.

    Considering the price, why not include the Imperial skin with the purchase, huh Cryptic? *hint hint wink wink*

    No, really, I'm serious. What do you have to lose? The Imperial is great, but I doubt people want to wait for the Tier 5 Shipyard Fleet Assault Cruiser Refit just to unlock its costume (assuming they didn't manage to buy it before it was removed from the C-Store).

    Heck, I would even purchase the Imperial costume for the full price, just to use it on the Regent, were it to return to the C-Store, even for a limited time.
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  • rrincyrrincy Member Posts: 1,023
    edited August 2012
    mewi wrote: »
    Is anyone else bothered by the fact that this is yet another cruiser?

    immensly :(
    wheres the love for science
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  • matridunadan1matridunadan1 Member Posts: 579 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Can we plz have some data on the torpedo? Beacose if it is not MK XII, I may not be intresting at all.

    If they follow the trend like they have in the past, the torpedo will most likely be a leveling weapon which, if the Connie phasers are any indication of, means it will be better than a Mk X but worse than a Mk XI.

    But the 3 modifiers mean it will definitely be a Very Rare quality launcher.
  • rrincyrrincy Member Posts: 1,023
    edited August 2012
    It'll probably be like the quad cannons , no level purple same as some leveling weps , 180 arc makes up for it i suppose though
    highly doubt they'd give away XII weps with a ship
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  • extremis0extremis0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    was hoping for a stronger turn rate like 8-10 but since when ever a refit got its turn rate pumped up but its still something :)
  • eltatuseltatus Member Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I think the Sove is the most beautiful ship in the hole Star Trek, but I don?t see any reason to buy this ship.
    This ship has the same hull, turn rate, shields and console slot. It has only a different (not worst or better) Boff configuration and some new stuff (console and torpedo) that are probably useless.
    Sorry cryptic, but I was hoping for better than this.

    And beacose you guys never show any intrest in the player feedback, this is going live anyway and I am not going to buy it =)
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Lead Designer Al "CaptainGeko" Rivera reveals details about the new Assault Cruiser Refit in this entry of the Season 6 News Dev Blog series.


    Link to the blog.

    Believe it or not, you guys made me happy on so many levels. Not only we finally got the Sovereign-Refit, but the Regent is no doubt taken from my DTNE Entry. :)

    Then on top of it, the "Riker Manuver" and the Wide-Arc Quantum Torpedo Launcher.


    But I'll be honest, I'm not too thrilled over the stations. This is layout is virutally the same as the Excelsior Refit, except the only difference is the Sovereign has a LT Universal slot (that obviously will be a Science slot) and the Engisn slot is Tactical and not Engineering. But the Excelsior boosts a larger turn radius.

    Personally, I wish Cryptic went with the LTC Tactical / Cmdr Engineernig / LtC Engineering / LT Scii layout. Maybe including a Universal Ensign Slot.



    BTW Devs, since this was "inspitred" partly by my Frontier DTNE Entry, could I get a discount? ;)
  • extremis0extremis0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    aw i wanted a commander universal.but this might mean that the fleet version will come back and hopefully a commander universal and a better turning rate ill take that over any hull increase :)
  • meurikmeurik Member Posts: 856 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    extremis0 wrote: »
    this might mean that the fleet version will come back and hopefully better turning ill take that over any hull increase :)

    Why would the Fleet version have better Turn Rate? None of the other Fleet ships got improved Turn Rate over their "lesser" equivalent. Only Hull and Shield strength increased.
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  • toslover#1432 toslover Member Posts: 327 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Looks like a great ship, but I gotta say a HUGE thank you to you guys for whoever decided to make it an account-wide unlock! :)
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  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Ya know I just noticed something about the price. The blog entry doesn't list the price, only the rank requirement. The 2500z is a player assumption, though admittedly one we haven't been corrected on.

    <_<

    >_>

    What, I can hope can't I?
  • usscapitalusscapital Member Posts: 985 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    2500 zen :eek: , thx but no thx not at that price
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  • usscapitalusscapital Member Posts: 985 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Ya know I just noticed something about the price. The blog entry doesn't list the price, only the rank requirement. The 2500z is a player assumption, though admittedly one we haven't been corrected on.

    <_<

    >_>

    What, I can hope can't I?



    The Assault Cruiser Refit: Regent Class is absolutely stunning, and we can?t wait for you to be able to fly it. It will be available in the C-Store as an account-wide unlock for 2,500 ZEN following server maintenance this Thursday, August 16th

    taken from the blog :(
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  • gypsybladegypsyblade Member Posts: 730 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I'm assuming the Fleet version will have a 4th Tactical console, more hull/shields. I don't like Fed Cruisers with the Excelsior being the exception.. we'll see if the unique console and torp are worth $25..
  • mattmiraclemattmiracle Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    walshicus wrote: »
    ... Why do you have four accounts??

    LOL, ok, the short story version.

    The @mattmiracle account is my primary account and the one I started with STO on. This account has 12 toons (6 Fed/6 KDF). In February of 2010, this became my Lifetime account.

    The @Matt_Miracle_2 account was started when the "Refer a Friend" was in effect so that the @mattmiracle account could get the Photonic Science Officer. This account subscription was dropped for a while but is roughly 230 days behind the main. This account has 12 toons (6 Fed/6 KDF).

    The @MattMiracle3 account was ALSO started for the friend referral for @matt_Miracle_2. This account is now used as a Role play / DOFF grinder for starbase. This account has 6 toons (3 Fed/3 KDF).

    The @mattmiracle4 account is a strict F2P only account with only the stock ships used (no C-Store ships purchased). I created this account just for the sake of having a total F2P account. This account has 0 vet days and only the standard 1 Fed and 1 KDF toons. This is the account that will not get the Regent
    trek21 wrote: »
    He meant on three characters, out of four anyway.

    No, three accounts :) If it was a per character then only my main from the @mattmiracle account would get the new ship.
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  • rrincyrrincy Member Posts: 1,023
    edited August 2012
    2500 zen is still the equivilant of 2000 c points i believe , same as almost every other ship on the store :rolleyes:
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  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    usscapital wrote: »
    The Assault Cruiser Refit: Regent Class is absolutely stunning, and we can?t wait for you to be able to fly it. It will be available in the C-Store as an account-wide unlock for 2,500 ZEN following server maintenance this Thursday, August 16th

    taken from the blog :(

    D'oh, I'm an idiot. Did a text search for 2500, but not 2,500 (that comma makes all the difference). Drat.
  • jexsamxjexsamx Member Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    raj011 wrote: »
    Insurrection was not lousy, it was way better then nemesis in terms of story, acting-vise and music, nemesis had better looks, some better acting, some better music. Story-vise it was a redone version of Wrath of Khan with out the KHANNNNNNNNNNNN. The action scenes was brilliant both ground and space. The way I see it is that nemesis is a good action movie but for a star trek movie nope. Its still one of favs but in terms of story-vise not at the top of my list.

    Anyway back on topic, that Wide Angle torpedo launcher sounds great. So it will only fire front and back right? Hope it launches from the correct tube on the ship model itself. Price is very steep for a fictional ship from a game.

    I never said anything about Nemesis being good. ;)

    Insurrection is still pretty lousy, though.
  • zulisvelzulisvel Member Posts: 518 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    A Sovy with a Lt Cmd Tac station, a beautiful new skin, a wide angle quantum torp launcher that I can use on my other Fed characters, and the Riker Maneuver?

    Shut up and take my money!
  • vengefuldjinnvengefuldjinn Member Posts: 1,521 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Lot's of interesting new possibilities.
    I'm particularly going to have lots of fun kit bashing. :D

    I only hope that the new parts play well with others and that existing customization bugs that have and still do plague other ship classes don't affect this ship.
    Also hoping that the costume unlock can also be used on the appropriate mirror ship.

    Wondering if the ship's special abilities are going to remain intact, avoiding the infamous bat. Was this ship available for testing?

    I'll be really miffed if after dishing out some serious cash for this ship, it's changed into something I wouldn't have purchased in it's final form.
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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Regent sounds nice, just wish it had gotten a bit better turn rate than the standard Assault Cruiser. I'm in an Oddy now, not sure if the Regent is an 'upgrade' or even a 'sidegrade'. :confused:

    • No +1 console slot to cover the Metreon console.
    • Same turn rate as old Sovereign. Would rate of 8 be that bad to give it?
    • I'm dubious on how strong the 180 Q-Torp is gonna be. Wish there was a fore and aft version so we could have 2 yet only have 1 per facing.
    • A Universal slot that will "have to" be a Sci station, so no real value there. Universal slot is best when you've already given me the basics first!
    • Sci station went Universal, LC Eng and Lt Tac switched. Not really adding anything.
    • Really dislike these Tier 5+ ships having a lowly ensign station. Just bump a Lt to a LC station instead. Same # of powers, more power options.


    Looks like Cryptic is saving all the good upgrades of the ship for the fleet version. I think I'll have to pass on it for now. The Metreon gas thing isn't worth the $25. Maybe when the Fleet version comes out I'll spend $25 + 1 Fleet Ship Module, for a real upgrade of the Assault Cruiser.

    After so long a wait for this refit, I'm disappointed in this one.
    Sometimes I think I play STO just to have something to complain about on the forums.
  • dragongod17dragongod17 Member Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    The main question I have about the wide-arc quantum torpedo launcher is will the high-yield torpedo and torpedo spread skills affect it?
  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    The main question I have about the wide-arc quantum torpedo launcher is will the high-yield torpedo and torpedo spread skills affect it?

    I'm pretty sure it will, like how the Quad Cannons are affected by Cannon Abilities. Else the Torpedo system would be useless.
  • jkstocbrjkstocbr Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    raj011 wrote: »
    Insurrection was not lousy, it was way better then nemesis in terms of story, acting-vise and music, nemesis had better looks, some better acting, some better music. Story-vise it was a redone version of Wrath of Khan with out the KHANNNNNNNNNNNN. The action scenes was brilliant both ground and space. The way I see it is that nemesis is a good action movie but for a star trek movie nope. Its still one of favs but in terms of story-vise not at the top of my list.

    It was a poorly written watered down lovey-dovey TNG movie (Twilight has a better love story). It really marked the demise of the the TNG movies ending with Nemesis as the final nail. Picard dancing, worfs pimple, Beverlies granie TRIBBLE, the manual override joy-stick, picard and worf singing? What is it a musical? It is a cringe worthy movie.
  • studleydoostudleydoo Member Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    First I want to thank Capt. Geko for not giving us the boff layout we temporarily saw in Tribble for the Fleet Sovereign. So glad that they switched the ENS ENG to Lt ENG so it retains some of its ability to tank. Thank you for listening to our feedback.

    I will be definitely buying this ship. But here is my feedback.



    Boff Layout: pretty good. We lose a little tanking for more offensive power. And with the Lt Universal we have a little more versatility. However, I'm sure most of us will be using it for Science. Not awesome, but good. It would be more awesome if it was Com ENG, LtCom ENG, LtCom TAC, Lt Sci, but I can live with whatwe have.


    Console/Special ability: Wide angle Quantum launcher is awesome. It will certainly be extremely useful on slow-turning cruisers. But we still have no real stats and information on this. Will it be as good as the current very rare Mark XII quantum launchers? Also I was hoping this launcher will allow quantum torpedoes to come out of the "turret" under the saucer. But seeing that it can be equipped in any ship, it'll probably will not. On that note, why is this not exclusive to the assault cruiser as the Quad Cannons are exclusive to the Tactical Escort (Defiant). I guess the reason is to get more people to buy it. Metron gas console sound intriguing...but again we have no information on it.

    Skin: I'm a purist in term of starship design, so I'll probably stay with the original canon skin of the Sovereign. However a very intriguing design.

    Energy bonus: I see that we get +10 weapons, +5 shields, +5 Auxillary. Personally I'd prefer +5 to Engines rather than to Auxilliary as I prefer increased speed and turn rate.

    So in a nutshell, it didn't blow my socks off as I have hoped but I was not disappointed either. It is still a buy for me.

    Good work Cryptic. Can't wait to try it out.
  • corsair114corsair114 Member Posts: 276
    edited August 2012
    studleydoo wrote: »
    First I want to thank Capt. Geko for not giving us the boff layout we temporarily saw in Tribble for the Fleet Sovereign. So glad that they switched the ENS ENG to Lt ENG so it retains some of its ability to tank. Thank you for listening to our feedback.

    I will be definitely buying this ship. But here is my feedback.



    Boff Layout: pretty good. We lose a little tanking for more offensive power. And with the Lt Universal we have a little more versatility. However, I'm sure most of us will be using it for Science. Not awesome, but good. It would be more awesome if it was Com ENG, LtCom ENG, LtCom TAC, Lt Sci, but I can live with whatwe have.


    Console/Special ability: Wide angle Quantum launcher is awesome. It will certainly be extremely useful on slow-turning cruisers. But we still have no real stats and information on this. Will it be as good as the current very rare Mark XII quantum launchers? Also I was hoping this launcher will allow quantum torpedoes to come out of the "turret" under the saucer. But seeing that it can be equipped in any ship, it'll probably will not. On that note, why is this not exclusive to the assault cruiser as the Quad Cannons are exclusive to the Tactical Escort (Defiant). I guess the reason is to get more people to buy it. Metron gas console sound intriguing...but again we have no information on it.

    Skin: I'm a purist in term of starship design, so I'll probably stay with the original canon skin of the Sovereign. However a very intriguing design.

    Energy bonus: I see that we get +10 weapons, +5 shields, +5 Auxillary. Personally I'd prefer +5 to Engines rather than to Auxilliary as I prefer increased speed and turn rate.

    So in a nutshell, it didn't blow my socks off as I have hoped but I was not disappointed either. It is still a buy for me.

    Good work Cryptic. Can't wait to try it out.

    You can run the Quad Cannons on any Fed ship that can take Dual Heavy Cannons.
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