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New Tric Mine aka iWin button

greenlightracergreenlightracer Member Posts: 18 Arc User
edited August 2012 in PvP Gameplay
Hi.


[8:22] [Combat (Self)] Leethia's officer Tricobalt Mine deals 79981 (79317) Kinetic Damage(Critical) to you with Mine Explosion.

[8:22] [Combat (Self)] Leethia's officer Tricobalt Mine deals 108789 (95000) Kinetic Damage(Critical) to you with Mine Explosion.



I was fully shielded with a few shield buffs (TSS + Tact team at least).

Go ahead and tell me I have no skills, and I dont know how to PvP, but how am I supposed to counter 150k of instant damage... puhlease.

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  • mewimewi Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    greenlightracer wrote: »
    Hi.


    [8:22] [Combat (Self)] Leethia's officer Tricobalt Mine deals 79981 (79317) Kinetic Damage(Critical) to you with Mine Explosion.

    [8:22] [Combat (Self)] Leethia's officer Tricobalt Mine deals 108789 (95000) Kinetic Damage(Critical) to you with Mine Explosion.



    I was fully shielded with a few shield buffs (TSS + Tact team at least).

    Go ahead and tell me I have no skills, and I dont know how to PvP, but how am I supposed to counter 150k of instant damage... puhlease.

    What ship? What kind of consoles are you using?

    What kind of consoles are they using?
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  • snoge00fsnoge00f Member Posts: 1,812 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Holy TRIBBLE. :eek:

    Reminds me of tric mines in ESD. :D

    I hope nothing broke in this recent update.
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  • greenlightracergreenlightracer Member Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    mewi wrote: »
    What ship? What kind of consoles are you using?

    What kind of consoles are they using?

    Vorcha Retrofit. MKX11 KHG Shields. Two Field Generators. They were in a Patrol escort.

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  • mewimewi Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    greenlightracer wrote: »
    Vorcha Retrofit. MKX11 KHG Shields. Two Field Generators. They were in a Patrol escort.

    Do you know if they were using any kind of mine damage improvement console~ IE: Did they have really weak other weapons?
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  • matteo716maikaimatteo716maikai Member Posts: 823
    edited August 2012
    ive heard reports that mines in general seem to be more powerful then torps now.
  • shimmerlessshimmerless Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Anecdotally I had someone doing horrendous hull damage earlier with either transphasic mines or plasma mines... I run a very defense-light setup but I am specced into kinetic resists, yet these things were chunking off hull like it was no tomorrow.

    It's still just an anecdote since who knows what he was actually running (it was a LSRV with just pure mines for its weap loadout) but Jesus!
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  • greenlightracergreenlightracer Member Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I dont know if they had any mine damage consoles. But I forgot to mention my EPS Transfer was up too, which means my shield power was around 100.

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  • praxi5praxi5 Member Posts: 1,562 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Were they possible stacking -DmgRes on you? Sensor Scan(s) + Disruptors (no Attack Patterns, since you had TT running)?

    If not, that's... yikes. Let's just hope that's a freak anomaly.
  • piwright42piwright42 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I do not think it is a bug or anomaly.
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  • holyhelmetholyhelmet Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Lol. I was wondering if some one would say something about my fun in kerrat with my double or tripple mines. (Depending what setup i was trying out) I am the one who dealt that lovely mine damage. I was running attack pattern omega 1, attack pattern alpha Tactical team torpedo high yield 2 and cannon rapid fire 3. I used dispersal pattern beta which drops 2 mines. I probably used go down fighting and fire on my mark 3 aswell.

    I purposely dropped the mines so they would be behind the enemy then unleased the cannon rapid fire on the front of his ship, this lead to his tactical team drawing power from the other 3 shields to the front of his ship, leaving his aft shields weakened ready for the mines to hit hi aft. With all those buffs running it certainly eats away an enemy ships shields and the tricobalt mines are both purple, one is a borg one from the stfs and the other has 2xcrit and a 1xdmg.

    It was a good attack run. I had many a failure as well as success. I was mostly testing for a new stf setup but it was fun trying it out on a few enemy players.

    Oh and I was flying a Fleet Patrol Escort firing all MKXII Antiproton weapons with 4xPurple MKXII antiproton consoles, my projectile skills are all set at 9 and staship projectile specialisation is set to about 7 or 8
  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Hmm... After reading what Holyhelmet posted, my best guess is that either A: It was just a REALLY Lucky Crit.. or B: The Tricobalt Mines got an accidental boost that they weren't supposed to recieve when the fix to the Tricobalt Mine/Pattern Bug got corrected.

    Not that I'm complaining of course.

    Guess this means to really watch for Speed Bumps. :cool:
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I wonder why Leethia didnt pull those out earlier tonight when he/she was in Ker'rat?
    It would've helped in combat.

    Are those constant damage numbers of crits buffes by DpA/DpB?
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  • p2wsucksp2wsucks Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Keep in mind there are pets that drop these things too. The normal player cooldown can be subverted via doffs. Granted they won't do as much damage as a player boost tric mine, but there could be a lot of them on the field at a given time and quickly replenished.
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  • paradise1killerparadise1killer Member Posts: 145 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    greenlightracer wrote: »
    Hi.


    [8:22] [Combat (Self)] Leethia's officer Tricobalt Mine deals 79981 (79317) Kinetic Damage(Critical) to you with Mine Explosion.

    [8:22] [Combat (Self)] Leethia's officer Tricobalt Mine deals 108789 (95000) Kinetic Damage(Critical) to you with Mine Explosion.



    I was fully shielded with a few shield buffs (TSS + Tact team at least).

    Go ahead and tell me I have no skills, and I dont know how to PvP, but how am I supposed to counter 150k of instant damage... puhlease.

    This is phenomena is nothing new to the game the small buff to mines yes but the bypassing of shield no.

    It use to be more predominate when tric torp were good and people actually built tric bomber builds.

    If you can get the torp/mine damage past a certain level to be so high that it surpasses shield facing cap and res, even one damage past that point triggers the torp/mine to deal full damage to hull.

    for example 10000 shield at 20 res the torp/mine has to pass 200,001 damage to trigger this event where full damage is delt to hull.


    Someone said something of the line of sensor scan.I think this can also factor in, the torp hits it reads torp hit target for 50k , target is debuff hits for 80k ( not real math) now it factors in shield, the debuff raise the torp overall damage, now the overall torp damage might get that boost to bypass the shield cap/res if it can pass it by one damage.


    What happen was the mine crit , your res was to low/ shield cap. This is very rare and Ive only done it 3x to other people with full shields.


    Not many people know about this because not many people ran trico bombers before the nerf .

    If tric mine was buff this might be more common but it really not a Iwin its a freak of luck and luck
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  • corsair114corsair114 Member Posts: 276
    edited August 2012
    Tac Captain Buffs + Dispersal Pattern Beta 3 + 2 Trico Mines = 4 Mines that disable, generate subspace rifts, and deal north of 50k damage a piece every thirty seconds. Oh, and if you're wondering, no, one going off will not destroy the other three. Space they occupy is roughly the width and height of a Star Cruiser.

    Let the hilarity ensue.
  • dassemstodassemsto Member Posts: 792 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    all I can think about is how great a PvE skill this will be... I just have to build me a gate bomber for the STFs! :D

    Also, I think the new Tric mines are fine! After all, they deal AoE damage to everyone in range, meaning they'll be almost as deadly to the person who plants it! :D
  • aetam1aetam1 Member Posts: 228 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Dont worry, there is no need for a person to plant that tricobalt mine. My pet can do that :P
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  • matteo716maikaimatteo716maikai Member Posts: 823
    edited August 2012
    dassemsto wrote: »
    all I can think about is how great a PvE skill this will be... I just have to build me a gate bomber for the STFs! :D

    Also, I think the new Tric mines are fine! After all, they deal AoE damage to everyone in range, meaning they'll be almost as deadly to the person who plants it! :D

    well now that you mentioned how it could be abused in pve it'll sure to be adjusted soon(ish) lol
  • aetam1aetam1 Member Posts: 228 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    abused in pve? now that sounds like a job for starfleet dental.
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    < hum hum, dusts offs B'rel >
    What? Gotta have fun while the fun lasts.
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  • cakeballscakeballs Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    aetam1 wrote: »
    abused in pve? now that sounds like a job for starfleet dental.

    Well, only if you count being absolutely destroyed, then maybe. :cool:
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    i checked the tric mines in the dilithium store, base damage is 18k, tric torp only deals 8k.
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  • dassemstodassemsto Member Posts: 792 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    dontdrunkimshoot wrote: »
    i checked the tric mines in the dilithium store, base damage is 18k, tric torp only deals 8k.

    this has been roughly like this since the torpedo abilities started affecting tric torps
  • p2wsucksp2wsucks Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    While I haven't done it yet please keep in mind KDF Ad frigs drop Tric mines. While my Tac-Fi (AbusingP2WEnjoy) will abuse this @ somepoint, NPC pets really need to be considered when buffing mines.
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  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    < hum hum, dusts offs B'rel >
    What? Gotta have fun while the fun lasts.

    I think your B'rel could use a new coat of 'paint' there, Roach: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vQOW8RQnOA
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  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    [8/11 2:19] [Combat (Self)] officer Tricobalt Mine deals 72362 (49968) Kinetic Damage to <name redacted> with Mine Explosion.

    Hmm..... Seems normal from a Crit with a Tric mine. :D
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  • husanakxhusanakx Member Posts: 1,608 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    [Combat (Self)] officer Tricobalt Mine deals 68910 (128884) Kinetic Damage(Critical) to Vor'cha Battle Cruiser with Mine Explosion.

    [Combat (Self)] officer Tricobalt Mine deals 95663 (120652) Kinetic Damage(Critical) to Rival Bird-of-Prey with Mine Explosion.

    [Combat (Self)] officer Tricobalt Mine deals 101648 (126637) Kinetic Damage(Critical) to Rival Bird-of-Prey with Mine Explosion.

    [Combat (Self)] officer Tricobalt Mine deals 122292 (124291) Kinetic Damage(Critical) to Vor'cha Battle Cruiser with Mine Explosion.

    [Combat (Self)] officer Tricobalt Mine deals 71868 (109794) Kinetic Damage(Critical) to Raptor Escort with Mine Explosion.

    [Combat (Self)] officer Tricobalt Mine deals 41407 (53914) Kinetic Damage to Rival Raptor Escort with Mine Explosion.

    [Combat (Self)] officer Tricobalt Mine deals 46450 (48116) Kinetic Damage to Rival Bird-of-Prey with Mine Explosion.

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  • rjam0rjam0 Member Posts: 70 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    -____-"

    I have been a victim of these and they aren't pretty.

    Especially when they're on the spawn and in the 1 second interval where you don't have shields when you respawn, they can and will instapop you...

    :(
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  • thoroonthoroon Member Posts: 409 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    greenlightracer wrote: »
    Go ahead and tell me I have no skills, and I dont know how to PvP

    You have no skills, and you don't know how to PvP. :D

    But mines with fitting consoles are a nightmare atm. So there is hope it wasn't your fault ;)

    Atm respawn mining is ganking at its finest. Once you conquer the opponent, he has no chance of coming back.
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    im thinking of adding 1 to my warp plasma dumps, though im not speced in projectile damage at all. would it be worth it? are those huge damage numbers only gettable when buffed and speced to the max?
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