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Andorian Shran-class Battle Cruiser

woerligenwoerligen Member Posts: 262 Arc User
edited October 2012 in Federation Discussion
Greetings, fellow Federation players!

Premise
A while back, the Devs planned a playable Andorian starship, based on the Kumari-class battle cruiser from Star Trek: Enterprise (Link: http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Andorian_battle_cruiser).

The Problem
Its Vulcan equivalent, the D'Kyr-class science vessel, entered the game. The problem for both ship types: the are from the mid-22nd century. Thus, their designs were approx. 250 years old by 2409. You could prevent that just the hull design was copied and the technology state-of-the-art. Still, some saw these ships (like the NX-class replica) as centuries old hunks.

The Solution
And now the solution: In Trek literature, which is a CBS-authorized source for STO, the recently published novel Fallen Gods featured the state of the art, approx. 600 meter long Shran-class battle cruiser. That's cool: The design is a direct descendant of the Kumari-class but the technology is state-of-the-art.

Specifications
The I.G.W. Therin has a crew of 700 and even has a special device that could be turned into a console ability in-game: the Transporter Duplicator!

The Transporter Duplicator can create duplicates of persons (remember the Thomas Riker incident). I'm sure this could be adapted to a cool space combat ability. The Shran Battle Cruiser is heavy on weapons and outguns a Luna-class Recon Science Vessel.

In-game, the Shran Battle Cruiser could be the Escort counterpart to the Vulcan Science Vessel.

Links to have a look at:
http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/andorian-cruiser/ -- Visual impression
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Shran_class -- Class-specific details
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/IGW_Shantherin_th%27Clane -- The I.G.W. Therin
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  • nycteris1523nycteris1523 Member Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I completely agree with you're post ...i personally have been waiting for the Andorian ship since it was annouced roughly the same time the vulcan ship was ...even made 3 andorians capt's one of each career to make sure i had the best fit...and would open my wallet quick for this ship no matter the layout ...just cause the andorians rock :)

    please cbs make this ship come true!
  • dknight0001dknight0001 Member Posts: 1,542
    edited August 2012
    600 meters long and you think it should be an Escort?

    It's a Cruiser hence the name "Shran-class battle cruiser".

    The Federation doesn't have a Cruiser that can mount DHC's why not make this one it. Of course it's not just a matter of whacking the ship into the game they need to sort out licensing.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,921 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    600 meters long and you think it should be an Escort?

    It's a Cruiser hence the name "Shran-class battle cruiser".

    The Federation doesn't have a Cruiser that can mount DHC's why not make this one it. Of course it's not just a matter of whacking the ship into the game they need to sort out licensing.

    Umm the Gal-x can mount DHC's.
  • woerligenwoerligen Member Posts: 262 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    600 meters long and you think it should be an Escort?

    It's a Cruiser hence the name "Shran-class battle cruiser".

    The Federation doesn't have a Cruiser that can mount DHC's why not make this one it. Of course it's not just a matter of whacking the ship into the game they need to sort out licensing.

    The Shran-class not being an Escort sounds reasonable, now that you mention it. Initially, I thought a tactical Andorian ship would complement the Vulcan science ship. On the other hand, the Tellarite warship (if we ever get it, that is ;)) could fill the Tac part.

    Licensing: Actually, it is much easier to get novelverse stuff into the game than fan-made or licensed game material. CBS recently granted entry to the Vesta- and Merian-class, which come from ST novels (Destiny trilogy and VOY: Children of the Storm).

    Personally, I hope to have an Aenar captain on an Andorian starship someday. :cool:
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  • dknight0001dknight0001 Member Posts: 1,542
    edited August 2012
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Umm the Gal-x can mount DHC's.

    You got me there, but I kind of wanted a turn of around 10 or 11 to use with the DHC's. Hull strength reduced to compensate just to be fair here.
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  • woerligenwoerligen Member Posts: 262 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    You got me there, but I kind of wanted a turn of around 10 or 11 to use with the DHC's. Hull strength reduced to compensate just to be fair here.

    Okay, so far it would be a tactically oriented Cruiser that can mount cannons, is more maneuverable but has lower hull. Nice combination, I'd say.

    Recently, "alien" ships came with a separate small craft. I'm toying with the idea of a combat shuttle or fighter craft based on the smaller Andorian cruiser seen in ST:ENT. :cool:
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  • dknight0001dknight0001 Member Posts: 1,542
    edited August 2012
    Let's think up a special a little better than another ship with a pet shall we?

    Exploration Cruiser Retrofit
    D'Kyr
    MVAE
    All 3 variants of the Odyssey
    Armitage
    Atrox

    Feds alone have 8, and I know I'm pushing to call an Odyssey's worker bees a pet but despite the performance what else is it?

    I'm a little stuck here I don't know what the Andorian specialty is? Honour and Agression? Maybe a Damn the Torpedoes ramming speed manuver?
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  • woerligenwoerligen Member Posts: 262 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I had in mind:
    playable Andorian Battle Cruiser with special ability (no carrier abilities)
    playable Andorian shuttle (sold separately)

    In Fallen Gods, there were Tholian interrogators serving aboard the ship with mind control technology (only working on Andorians) and the Transporter Duplicator.

    Maybe, in combat the ship can double itself, like the Gemini Effect from ST: Armada?
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  • dknight0001dknight0001 Member Posts: 1,542
    edited August 2012
    Doubling your ship is already in the game with the Photonic Displacement Console.

    Oh I see a seperate shuttle or an Andorian Pack style thing. I like it but you have to admit the Federation is spolied for choice when it comes to shuttles.
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  • sleepymarinesleepymarine Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Well in the trek universe Andorians are known for being fierce and honorable warriors who will fight to the bitter end....

    So howzabout some sort of "Go Down fighting" ability that grants a bonus to damage dealing as the ship's hull drops:
    - under 75% hull strength grants a 10% boost to all attack damage
    - under 50% hull strenght a 25% bonus to attack damage and a 25% reduction in cooldown times for weapons arrays
    - under 25% hull strength grants a 50% boost to attack damage, and a 50% reduction in weapon cooldown times
    - under 10% hull strength grant a 75% boost to attack damage and a 75% reduction to weapon cooldowns...
    - 0% hullstrength the vessel destruct withs higher damage output, and 2X range of standard ship destruction...

    It would make the ship a fiercer opponent as it sustains more damage, and maybe give the smurfs a chance to escape destruction...
    also would give captains an interesting conundrum as they would need to decide just how close to destruction they are willing to get to allow their ship to go in tradeoff for the extra damage output... a real risk vs reward
  • starcommando101starcommando101 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Well in the trek universe Andorians are known for being fierce and honorable warriors who will fight to the bitter end....

    So howzabout some sort of "Go Down fighting" ability that grants a bonus to damage dealing as the ship's hull drops:
    - under 75% hull strength grants a 10% boost to all attack damage
    - under 50% hull strenght a 25% bonus to attack damage and a 25% reduction in cooldown times for weapons arrays
    - under 25% hull strength grants a 50% boost to attack damage, and a 50% reduction in weapon cooldown times
    - under 10% hull strength grant a 75% boost to attack damage and a 75% reduction to weapon cooldowns...
    - 0% hullstrength the vessel destruct withs higher damage output, and 2X range of standard ship destruction...

    It would make the ship a fiercer opponent as it sustains more damage, and maybe give the smurfs a chance to escape destruction...
    also would give captains an interesting conundrum as they would need to decide just how close to destruction they are willing to get to allow their ship to go in tradeoff for the extra damage output... a real risk vs reward

    To be honest, it is smart. you will need to truely know your ship and the damage you take.
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  • woerligenwoerligen Member Posts: 262 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I hope, when/if the Shran-class battle cruiser comes, it won't be a Lockbox ship. :eek:
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  • buddha1369buddha1369 Member Posts: 386 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I want it to be z-store, but I almost hope it is a lockbox ship, so that it will be fleet ship quality. If it is z-store then it will be weaker then fleet and lockbox ships.

    I expect and hope that if it is a cruiser then it will be a mirror of the fleet Tor'kat, turn rate of at least 10, can mount DHC, 4 tac and 4 engineering consoles, or 4 and 3
  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    A refit version is fine, but keep the Kumari-class name. It just sounds cooler.

    And it must be an escort. It performed like an escort in Enterprise, and the Feds have too many cruisers already.
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  • aurigas7aurigas7 Member Posts: 488 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I would prefer it as a shameles Tor'kaht clone. The feds may have tons of cruisers, but all of them are space whales.
    Either that, or weapons firing to the side. Instead of 4 weapons fore and aft, 4 weapons right and left. Or better yet, 3 to each side and one fore/aft. Would at least give the feds a ship that can kite Donatra AND survive her torp volleys.
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  • benoliverwillockbenoliverwillock Member Posts: 99 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Does anyone else think this looks ALOT like a Qin Raptor?
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  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Does anyone else think this looks ALOT like a Qin Raptor?

    They do share similarities, yes. Both the Kumari and the original Somraw Raptor were shown in Enterprise; it's conceivable that one is a modified version of the other.
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  • lincolninspacelincolninspace Member Posts: 1,843 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Great looking ships! Enterprise had a lot of great art direction and this ship just looks andorian to me. The Vulcan ships were the coolest though.
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  • szimszim Member Posts: 2,503 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    In the youtube video of priority one visting Cryptic studios JamJamz especially emphasizes that there will be Andorian SHIPS. Meaning there will be more than one! So maybe they will release an escort and a cruiser? Or maybe just a cruiser and a shuttle. I don't know.
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