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trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
edited August 2012 in Klingon Discussion
After having played three Fed characters (all three professions, all Liberated Borg), and generally maxing them out, I decided to try the KDF a bit, having 3 more free character slots to play with ;)

So, in my Liberated Borg Science Officer/Bird-of-Prey playtime; have thoroughly explored the First City, the Orbital Shipyard and the Academy, played Bringing Down the House and The House Always Wins, experienced the Empire Defense missions, and the general workings of the Klingon Empire.

First City had a lot of lag... but I expected that, as I knew it was on/more than the same level as Earth Spacedock, and it didn't bother me. But I gotta say WOW... the city is impressive, and that's putting it mildly :eek:

The two missions I've experienced so far... they are worlds beyond most Fed ones. There are a number of bugs, but the entire game has those, so that's not entirely new. But I can't wait to experience the rest of the KDF's unique missions

Playing in a Bird-of-Prey was quite interesting. I already knew the workings of high-turning-low-health from playing an escort, but the cloaking aspect was entirely new... and I loved it. I felt like an actual predator in that thing, silently creeping up on my enemies :cool:

That was my first time on a KDF. And I will enjoy going back to it. In fact, there will be an Engineer and Tactical in addition to him later. And they will be my main dilithilum grinders for the next few months, specifically to get away from the Feds for awhile.

So I've joined the KDF ;) See you all on the field of battle

Qapla'!
Was named Trek17.

Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
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  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Welcome! We will crush the Federation dogs! Simply say the word, and my crew and I will gladly come to your aid in glorious combat in my mighty Bortasqu'!
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
    I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    mimey2 wrote: »
    Welcome! We will crush the Federation dogs! Simply say the word, and my crew and I will gladly come to your aid in glorious combat in my mighty Bortasqu'!
    As soon as my character's a Lt. General, and the flagship is suitably prepared for battle, I just might take you up on that offer :D
    Was named Trek17.

    Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Welcome to the KDF.

    When you reach the "Blood of the Empire" mission, be sure to look up this map:

    http://www.stowiki.org/The_Great_Hall_of_Qo%27noS_%28pre-Season_4%29

    Since the mission predates Season 4 and was never updated, the First City is still
    in its old incarnation.
    Confuses the heck out of everyone who didn't play the game before Season 4.;)
    To reach the Chancellor you need to go the stairs up here:

    http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/5098/screenshot2012040412324.jpg

    http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/3493/screenshot2012040412330.jpg

    and then turn right.

    May glorious victory await you on your journeys.
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Qa'pla! Welcome Warrior.

    We are passionette but small community always willing to help.:D
    Leonard Nimoy, Spock.....:(

    R.I.P
  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    misterde3 wrote: »
    Welcome to the KDF.

    When you reach the "Blood of the Empire" mission, be sure to look up this map:

    http://www.stowiki.org/The_Great_Hall_of_Qo%27noS_%28pre-Season_4%29

    Since the mission predates Season 4 and was never updated, the First City is still
    in its old incarnation.
    Confuses the heck out of everyone who didn't play the game before Season 4.;)
    To reach the Chancellor you need to go the stairs up here:

    http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/5098/screenshot2012040412324.jpg

    http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/3493/screenshot2012040412330.jpg

    and then turn right.

    May glorious victory await you on your journeys.
    Will do, thanks for the tip :D

    Currently, I am halfway through the Devidan FE series. And while I agree it's still very Fed-oriented on the dialogue, the small touches like the 'What in the name of Kahless' addition in "Skirmish" are great, we just need more of that :)

    I also liked how on "What Lies Beneath", when we found the VERY-recently killed person, my tactical officer wasn't doing that scared portrait. It may befit a cowardly Fed to be scared, but my warrior was merely demanding to know how it had happened ;) Cowardice does not befit the KDF, and I am pleased

    And on a side note, the Kar'Fi's Phase Shift Generator... what skills, if any, affect that thing's performance? STOwiki still doesn't have that page, and I'm curious.
    Was named Trek17.

    Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Hmm, unfortunately, don't own the catfish-carrier, as my fleet calls it. It MIGHT be boosted by your Starship Stealth skill, but I don't know 100%.
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
    I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    mimey2 wrote: »
    Hmm, unfortunately, don't own the catfish-carrier, as my fleet calls it. It MIGHT be boosted by your Starship Stealth skill, but I don't know 100%.
    That probably makes sense. According to the C-Store description, it temporalily shifts you out of phase with your enemies... in other words, by an indirect hiding method, briefly become untargetable. Cloaking does the same, though you become invisible instead of intangible.

    Stealth sounds like the most likely candidiate, thanks :)
    Was named Trek17.

    Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
  • nyniknynik Member Posts: 1,628 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Awesome! Fair play to you for making the decision to try things out for yourself.
  • travelingmastertravelingmaster Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    KDF is pretty cool, there's no doubt about that. I think most of the complaints raised on these forums is largely from players who are frustrated from the slow development of the KDF faction and the apparent lack of interest on the part of Crpytic/PWE towards finishing the faction.

    Me, personally. . .I want more storyline stuff. More Klingon dialogue and bravado, etc :)
    My PvP toon is Krov, of The House of Snoo. Beware of my Hegh'ta of doom.
  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    trek21 wrote: »
    That probably makes sense. According to the C-Store description, it temporalily shifts you out of phase with your enemies... in other words, by an indirect hiding method, briefly become untargetable. Cloaking does the same, though you become invisible instead of intangible.

    Stealth sounds like the most likely candidiate, thanks :)

    If it is, great, if not, oh well. Regardless, your best bet is to think of it, more or less, as a cloak.
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
    I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    KDF is pretty cool, there's no doubt about that. I think most of the complaints raised on these forums is largely from players who are frustrated from the slow development of the KDF faction and the apparent lack of interest on the part of Crpytic/PWE towards finishing the faction.

    Me, personally. . .I want more storyline stuff. More Klingon dialogue and bravado, etc :)
    It is pretty cool :D I just finished all the Fek'Ihri Return missions... and I thought S'taass was huge :eek: Not to mention we just stormed through Gre'thor itself... wow.
    mimey2 wrote: »
    If it is, great, if not, oh well. Regardless, your best bet is to think of it, more or less, as a cloak.
    A limited, pathetic temporary excuse for a cloak... but a cloak nontheless ;)
    Was named Trek17.

    Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    trek21 wrote: »
    A limited, pathetic temporary excuse for a cloak... but a cloak nontheless ;)

    Quite so. But it is on a carrier, something the Vo'quv, Atrox, and Recluse all don't have.

    Anywho, if I knew you in-game, I'd totally take my Bortasqu and it's 3,600 disposable bod....erm...'crew', and help you tear through all the missions. :D
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
    I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
  • majesticmsfcmajesticmsfc Member Posts: 1,401 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Welcome you'll find us KDF Fans are a pretty good bunch and many are really skilful players. It's great to see another player joining our ranks, I hope you enjoy your time on the KDF and join our ranks in encouraging the Dev's to put some more working into our beloved faction especially more PvE missions.
    Support the Game by Supporting the KDF, equality and uniqueness for all factions!
  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    mimey2 wrote: »
    Quite so. But it is on a carrier, something the Vo'quv, Atrox, and Recluse all don't have.

    Anywho, if I knew you in-game, I'd totally take my Bortasqu and it's 3,600 disposable bod....erm...'crew', and help you tear through all the missions. :D
    Any may our warriors die with honor ;)
    Welcome you'll find us KDF Fans are a pretty good bunch and many are really skilful players. It's great to see another player joining our ranks, I hope you enjoy your time on the KDF and join our ranks in encouraging the Dev's to put some more working into our beloved faction especially more PvE missions.
    As far as I'm concerned, the KDF's unique missions (which are better than most Fed ones) + the FE's (which are some of the better missions period, even if they're only minorly changed for the KDF), this is the better faction ;) And I'm thoroughly enjoying the KDF
    Was named Trek17.

    Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
  • jnohdjnohd Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Qa'pla!

    Welcome to the 16%. We have cookies. Well, candied racht at any rate. ;)

    I think you'll find the broad variety of ship designs, limited costuming, and markedly more interesting, high quality but lower quantity content to be both addictive and frustrating.

    Since Season 6, our numbers appear to have swelled, our mission queues have filled faster, and our Fleet recruitment has gotten more aggressive (perhaps the only remaining non-PtW PvP in the game? I kid, of course its stil PtW)

    So ready your Bat'leth, defend the Great Houses against interlopers, storm the very gates of Gre'thor, and teach the Hirogen PetaQ which of us is Prey and which is Predator! (and then re-do all the same stuff you've done on your Feddie, but with a cooler ship)
    Qoy qeylIs puqloD
    Qoy puqbe'pu'
    yoHbogh malthbogh je' SuvwI'
    Sey'moHchu' may' 'Iw
    maSuv manong 'ej maHoHchu'
    nI'be'yInmaj 'ach wovqu'!

    batlh maH ghbej'jyoqIjDaq
    vavpu'ma' DImuvpa'reH maSuvtaH
    Qu' DamevQo' maSuvtaH, ma'ov
    Wampaq@Jnoh, Fleet Leader: ..Bloodbath and Beyond [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] 'Iw HaH je Hoch!
    ALL HOLDINGS FINISHED! - Starbase 5-5-5-5 || Embassy 3-3-3 || Mine 3-3-3 || Spire 3-3-3
    A laid back KDF fleet welcoming independent, casual, & part-time players and groups. Roms & alts welcome.
    Send in-game mail to Wampaq@Jnoh, visit our recruitment thread and FB page for more info.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    jnohd wrote: »
    Qa'pla!

    Welcome to the 16%. We have cookies. Well, candied racht at any rate. ;)

    I think you'll find the broad variety of ship designs, limited costuming, and markedly more interesting, high quality but lower quantity content to be both addictive and frustrating.

    Since Season 6, our numbers appear to have swelled, our mission queues have filled faster, and our Fleet recruitment has gotten more aggressive (perhaps the only remaining non-PtW PvP in the game? I kid, of course its stil PtW)

    So ready your Bat'leth, defend the Great Houses against interlopers, storm the very gates of Gre'thor, and teach the Hirogen PetaQ which of us is Prey and which is Predator! (and then re-do all the same stuff you've done on your Feddie, but with a cooler ship)
    Qoy qeylIs puqloD
    Qoy puqbe'pu'
    yoHbogh malthbogh je' SuvwI'
    Sey'moHchu' may' 'Iw
    maSuv manong 'ej maHoHchu'
    nI'be'yInmaj 'ach wovqu'!

    batlh maH ghbej'jyoqIjDaq
    vavpu'ma' DImuvpa'reH maSuvtaH
    Qu' DamevQo' maSuvtaH, ma'ov

    STO's
    take on the song.
    Not sure from where.
    A DS9 take.


    In the spirit of the whole Klingon thing, a great episode centered on them as well as one of the original TOS Klingons, Kor: DS9's episode, "Once More Unto The Breach"
    "Long live the Empire!"
    XzRTofz.gif
  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Not sure from where.

    From the interactive video game "Star Trek: Klingon":)

    From "Once more Unto the Breach" for those who just want to have the musical piece in question:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtTUkpY4jmo&feature=related


    And a pice from TNG:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMHFMoH7mIc&feature=related
  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    So, how are you doing in glorious combat for the Empire?
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
    I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    mimey2 wrote: »
    So, how are you doing in glorious combat for the Empire?
    Currently assisting the Federation with their sudden Dominion troubles. Let's face it: they'll fall without our help, and we get insight into their defenses and other info that may serve the Empire in the future ;)

    And while loving it, I find going through Second Wave, as a Klingon warrior... mixed. S'taass was the only truly Klingon feel to the mission, the rest was strained. Captain Shon in particular reacted to me exactly as if I was human, which I found insulting to my honor. He's supposed to be diplomatic and all, but there was no change of words.

    The rest I'll be going through soon.
    Was named Trek17.

    Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    trek21 wrote: »
    And while loving it, I find going through Second Wave, as a Klingon warrior... mixed. S'taass was the only truly Klingon feel to the mission, the rest was strained. Captain Shon in particular reacted to me exactly as if I was human, which I found insulting to my honor. He's supposed to be diplomatic and all, but there was no change of words.

    .

    That which you described is why many KDF felt and still feel that the FE missions are not really designed for the KDF to participate, except as an after thought.

    Kestrel mentioned that dialouge choice based on faction/Race may arrive eventually to the game. Hopefully they will update the old FEs.
    Leonard Nimoy, Spock.....:(

    R.I.P
  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    trek21 wrote: »
    Currently assisting the Federation with their sudden Dominion troubles. Let's face it: they'll fall without our help, and we get insight into their defenses and other info that may serve the Empire in the future ;)

    And while loving it, I find going through Second Wave, as a Klingon warrior... mixed. S'taass was the only truly Klingon feel to the mission, the rest was strained. Captain Shon in particular reacted to me exactly as if I was human, which I found insulting to my honor. He's supposed to be diplomatic and all, but there was no change of words.

    The rest I'll be going through soon.

    Yeah, that 'Captain' may be in control of the Federation's new flagship, but I'll have my finger ready on the fire button, waiting to blow him out of the sky.

    I agree with what Bitemepwe said as well.

    I admit, seeing S'taass one-shotting that unfortunate Jem'hader is pretty cool. Although I won't miss that redshirt of an Admiral, the Tellarite.
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
    I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    mimey2 wrote: »
    Yeah, that 'Captain' may be in control of the Federation's new flagship, but I'll have my finger ready on the fire button, waiting to blow him out of the sky.

    I agree with what Bitemepwe said as well.

    I admit, seeing S'taass one-shotting that unfortunate Jem'hader is pretty cool. Although I won't miss that redshirt of an Admiral, the Tellarite.
    At least he's forward with the arrogance Feds have under their skins :D He has my respect for that, even as I'll enjoy blowing their ships out of space.

    And yeah, that was pretty cool :) Though long before I joined the KDF here, I had read talk about how S'taass seemed a weak choice for a Klingon Ambassador; partly because he wasn't Klingon himself, only a subjugated race of the Klingons... I don't remember much about it, it was awhile ago :)
    Was named Trek17.

    Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    trek21 wrote: »
    At least he's forward with the arrogance Feds have under their skins :D He has my respect for that, even as I'll enjoy blowing their ships out of space.

    And yeah, that was pretty cool :) Though long before I joined the KDF here, I had read talk about how S'taass seemed a weak choice for a Klingon Ambassador; partly because he wasn't Klingon himself, only a subjugated race of the Klingons... I don't remember much about it, it was awhile ago :)

    Actually the beef with Stass was his dialouge choices. He sounds more Klingon than the Klingon players in the dialouge, which struck mnay as wrong considering he is a Gorn ambassador representing the KDFs interests in the mission.

    Still he is a complete bad TRIBBLE in a fight.
    Leonard Nimoy, Spock.....:(

    R.I.P
  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    So fun fact I discovered while doing 'We Need Breathing Room' Daily: the Emission-Seeking Torpedo the Feds fire can be indirectly targeted :D

    By that, I mean... I see it pulled into the center of Gravity Well if close enough. And I've seen FAW fire at it on one occasion (the only occasion it was in my firing arc, if I recall)

    And on a side-note, getting myself to max level before continuing in the Dominion FEs. This way I only have to go through the missions once, to make sure I get the max level set equipment I plan to use ;)
    Was named Trek17.

    Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
  • gerudongerudon Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I just started with my Klingon Commander yesterday and I must say, to play with a BoP is a lot of fun and surely different from my bulky Odyssey Cruiser. But the amount of PvE content is really disappointing and since I'm not a big pvp player, there sadly isn't much to do for me.

    If at least they would have built in more patrol missions, to level fast, but it seems the KDF doesn't even get that much.
  • lostusthornlostusthorn Member Posts: 844
    edited August 2012
    Luckily at level cap, the content is pretty much the same as fed side.
    Sp, once you get past the leveling pains, it doesn't matters.
  • gerudongerudon Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I reached 50 with my last Fed character before the end of the Romulan Episode, just by playing a lot of patrols. And apart of the episodes, there isn't much "content" to speak of, not even for Feds. It took my like two days to equip the ship of my last character (Borg Set, MACO Shield, Mark XI very rare Weapons of various kind, Mark XI rare consoles etc.) and for the ground combat you can buy whatever you need of just use the Jem'Hadar Set.

    The missing endgame content is one of the biggest problems of the game, so saying, that it is the same for Klingon characters isn't exactly a relieve. :D
  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    gerudon wrote: »
    I just started with my Klingon Commander yesterday and I must say, to play with a BoP is a lot of fun and surely different from my bulky Odyssey Cruiser. But the amount of PvE content is really disappointing and since I'm not a big pvp player, there sadly isn't much to do for me.

    If at least they would have built in more patrol missions, to level fast, but it seems the KDF doesn't even get that much.
    It is pretty fun :P And I must say I prefer the KDF's dark-red hue over the Fed's blue :D

    But how is the KDF's leveling curve that slow? I found with all the standard missions, plus Doff missions and the occasional 'Investigate Daily Missions' (Dil and a good amount of XP), would easily put me ahead of the grading curve. Same as on the Fed side.

    Granted, you'd normally have to go back and do certain missions over again to get max-level equipment, but it didn't seem that hard.
    Was named Trek17.

    Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
  • gerudongerudon Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    trek21 wrote: »
    It is pretty fun :P And I must say I prefer the KDF's dark-red hue over the Fed's blue :D

    But how is the KDF's leveling curve that slow? I found with all the standard missions, plus Doff missions and the occasional 'Investigate Daily Missions' (Dil and a good amount of XP), would easily put me ahead of the grading curve. Same as on the Fed side.

    Granted, you'd normally have to go back and do certain missions over again to get max-level equipment, but it didn't seem that hard.

    Well, you need like three and a half patrols to gain a level even at the end of the fed leveling (like from 49 to 50) and even less in the level before.

    As a Klingon you get hardly the same amount of EXP for the Pi Canis or Defense missions, only that those are three patrols (and always the same at that).

    As I said: I really like the KDF side and I can't wait to get my hands on the B'Rel BoP, if only for the looks alone, but they really should expand the PvE for Klingons. The missions you get, seem to be pretty good, as far, as I have played them that is, but there aren't many of them. Most of the PvE Episodes are "only" the episodes, that were added to the game during the last years.

    Edit: Oh, and is it normal, that DOff Missions as a Klingon are much more "difficult" as the DOff missions for the Feds? By now I have like 8 People in sickbay and about half of my missions fail.
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