Doesn't the answer to that question depend on what ship you are commanding yourself? So, what is your ship?
*Facepalm
You've fought this guy so many times and still don't know. He flies a Bird of prey.
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You've fought this guy so many times and still don't know. He flies a Bird of prey.
I guess that explains why he flies the zombie builds... he isn't really there. Perhaps he was posting on the forums all those times Mini was trying to bomb him. lmao
You've fought this guy so many times and still don't know. He flies a Bird of prey.
could that be the problem? is the hardened escort that is bug ship simply too powerful to be alphaed in the traditional bop manner? ill accept this as truth eventually, but there has got to be a way...........
A BoP should be able to hit-and-run the Jem'Hadar Attack ship... if that is seen as an acceptable tactic in the match (for some reason, some people seem to believe it is not). Cloak, approach, wait until everything is ready for an alpha strike, hit the alpha strike buttons, decloak, attack, retreat, cloak, repeat.
but alas, the jem ship (wisely) holds his buffs for the last possible second, cycles two omegas and two tac teams so there isnt any window of vulnerability. vm is met with red matter capacitor. even with jump console nigh impossible to get a psw3 on a bug (1v1)
i could have had a bunch of bad rolls but no. trico crits bouncing off em! ill come back later and see if any worthy ideas popped up. but yes logimo, that is exactly what i do, problem is, it doesnt work vs bug ships who know whats going on
A BoP should be able to hit-and-run the Jem'Hadar Attack ship... if that is seen as an acceptable tactic in the match (for some reason, some people seem to believe it is not). Cloak, approach, wait until everything is ready for an alpha strike, hit the alpha strike buttons, decloak, attack, retreat, cloak, repeat.
Well, that must be the problem then, um, emoejoe was it? You must not have a very good alpha strike...
Mini, in case you've been sleeping on some of the other threads, this girl is Special Needs. Just pat her head and otherwise ignore her.
_______________ CommanderDonatra@Capt.Sisko: ahhh is it supposed to do that? Norvo Tigan@dontdrunkimshoot: hell ya, maybe
met some bugs in my day but fought this one guy had ultimate setup couldnt put the haymaker down on him
oh he died when he had 50 leech stacked... so dont say leech
The bugship has been wrongly buffed that it is in a class by itself at least until fleets start unlocking more ships. The worst thing by far I've encountered is the premades that are all flying lockbox ships. There is nothing quite like running into a team of bugships. It makes one wonder if these pilots actually do have any skill at all or are just hiding behind this broken ship. I can, at least have a little respect for a pilot that pugs. Not much...but a little.
It's not very often I've been popped by a decloaking vessel in my jemmy, even if it's the old tricbomb manoeuvre. Debuffs usually are my undoing. Sensor scan being the worst of the bunch.
If he's flying two copies of RSP (and yeah, not kidding, I've seen this happen) then you're kinda SoL. He probably has the console slots to survive a BoP tricobalt and he's going to out-turn you as well, there's really not much you can specifically do in a duel scenario. Best I can recommend is hard CC, like I'm talking VM PSW TB TBR GW style.
It has as much hull as a Kar'fi (34,500 base), more speed than any other ship (0.22 mod), as much shield strength as a cruiser or Vo'quv carrier (1.00 mod), 20 base turnrate (Hegh'ta has 21, Qin raptor has 15), one of the best bo layout for an escort, 5 tact consoles, 4 eng consoles and one sci console.
No sorry, if the guy piloting it is as good as you, you can't beat him.
It's simply the best escort and probably the most OP ship in the game.
Against Omega users in general tac buffed TBR goes straight to the hull and they eat every pulse unless they run. And it has no arc so turn rate doesn't help them.
_______________ CommanderDonatra@Capt.Sisko: ahhh is it supposed to do that? Norvo Tigan@dontdrunkimshoot: hell ya, maybe
Doesn't the answer to that question depend on what ship you are commanding yourself? So, what is your ship?
LOL I'm mostly a grounder and even i know this guy Fly's a Very Powerful BOP, usually when i see this guy decloak and if I'm not on a good team I'm saying what data said when the enterprise crashed.
3. ran into blackjack in his last night in a pug. you all know that guy is hella nasty in whatever he flies anyways. dude was rocking leech and the new fangled polaron proc with 5 pol consoles and stuff.
for **** sake, with only him targeting me i had 8 leeches stacked when he stacked a couple polaron procs on me. its just nasty stuff man. you can't hang with that unless you bring it yourself.
i managed to get a kill in on him while he was tanking my 4 laughable fed pugmates. oh, he had bad puggies too. i had a field day picking them off until he realized i had decloacked.
ah, the wonders of ship building in this cryptic world.
LOL I'm mostly a grounder and even i know this guy Fly's a Very Powerful BOP, usually when i see this guy decloak and if I'm not on a good team I'm saying what data said when the enterprise crashed.
after a year of trying to get my wife to like trek, it took this scene to get her into the fold. Data is still her all time favorite, and she quotes and references him often.
3. ran into blackjack in his last night in a pug. you all know that guy is hella nasty in whatever he flies anyways. dude was rocking leech and the new fangled polaron proc with 5 pol consoles and stuff.
for **** sake, with only him targeting me i had 8 leeches stacked when he stacked a couple polaron procs on me. its just nasty stuff man. you can't hang with that unless you bring it yourself.
i managed to get a kill in on him while he was tanking my 4 laughable fed pugmates. oh, he had bad puggies too. i had a field day picking them off until he realized i had decloacked.
ah, the wonders of ship building in this cryptic world.
have fun kill bad guys
which has got me thinking. kling side, would i go khg or omega? either way.
Put your hands together and pray real hard that the bug captain is rubbish.
Against a good bug captain? Not a chance. You might be able to survive him if you're built for tanking but he'll be able to survive you quite easily, even if he's built for pure DPS.
Which is of course why you see so much of this ship in PvP. It moves at lightning speeds, tanks like crazy and deals insane damage. I don't think Cryptic factors in how big of a boost manoeuvrability gives to survivability. With such an escort, why fly any other.
Is it using Polaron? Tetryon? Antiproton? Phaser? Disruptor? Some Hybrid?
Are there Torpedos involved?
What about Mines?
As a BoP, you should probobly be Observing the enemy ship in battle before trying to Engage it and kill it. Watching what powers it's using. Weapons. And so forth. Watching for Procs and such.
If your in a 1 v 1 Match, as a BoP, you may be making a Mistake. Because there is no Surprise at that point. They know you are there. They can eaisly have their fingers on their Key Binds or Powers needed to defend against your Decloak/Alpha Strike. Then it's just a matter of Whiping around and blowing you up. It's why, when ever we've 1v1ed, you had a hard time, if ever, of beating me. Because I'd know your there. And it's just a matter of waiting for you.
Powers that you could use to defeat, in Theory, a Jem'Hadar Attack Ship:
Viral Matrix + Doffs
Chroniton Torpedoes/Mines
Photonic Shockwave
Phasers
Polaron + Plasmonic Leech
Tractor Beam
SNB Doffs
Eject Warp Plasma
CPB + Tet Glider + Tetryon Weapons/Hybrids could maybe work
Just to name some Ideas that come to mind.
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*Facepalm
You've fought this guy so many times and still don't know. He flies a Bird of prey.
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"Leech" + Boarding Party + Subnuke + Viral Matrix + phasers + aceton assimilator + drain drones lol.
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I guess that explains why he flies the zombie builds... he isn't really there. Perhaps he was posting on the forums all those times Mini was trying to bomb him. lmao
could that be the problem? is the hardened escort that is bug ship simply too powerful to be alphaed in the traditional bop manner? ill accept this as truth eventually, but there has got to be a way...........
boardign party! thats it....
*to the drawing board
*rips up drawing..
no thats not it....
but alas, the jem ship (wisely) holds his buffs for the last possible second, cycles two omegas and two tac teams so there isnt any window of vulnerability. vm is met with red matter capacitor. even with jump console nigh impossible to get a psw3 on a bug (1v1)
i could have had a bunch of bad rolls but no. trico crits bouncing off em! ill come back later and see if any worthy ideas popped up. but yes logimo, that is exactly what i do, problem is, it doesnt work vs bug ships who know whats going on
Well, that must be the problem then, um, emoejoe was it? You must not have a very good alpha strike...
Mini, in case you've been sleeping on some of the other threads, this girl is Special Needs. Just pat her head and otherwise ignore her.
CommanderDonatra@Capt.Sisko: ahhh is it supposed to do that?
Norvo Tigan@dontdrunkimshoot: hell ya, maybe
The bugship has been wrongly buffed that it is in a class by itself at least until fleets start unlocking more ships. The worst thing by far I've encountered is the premades that are all flying lockbox ships. There is nothing quite like running into a team of bugships. It makes one wonder if these pilots actually do have any skill at all or are just hiding behind this broken ship. I can, at least have a little respect for a pilot that pugs. Not much...but a little.
vids and guides and stuff
[9:52] [Zone #11] Neal@trapper1532: im a omega force shadow oprative and a maoc elite camander and here i am taking water samples
It has as much hull as a Kar'fi (34,500 base), more speed than any other ship (0.22 mod), as much shield strength as a cruiser or Vo'quv carrier (1.00 mod), 20 base turnrate (Hegh'ta has 21, Qin raptor has 15), one of the best bo layout for an escort, 5 tact consoles, 4 eng consoles and one sci console.
No sorry, if the guy piloting it is as good as you, you can't beat him.
It's simply the best escort and probably the most OP ship in the game.
CommanderDonatra@Capt.Sisko: ahhh is it supposed to do that?
Norvo Tigan@dontdrunkimshoot: hell ya, maybe
LOL I'm mostly a grounder and even i know this guy Fly's a Very Powerful BOP, usually when i see this guy decloak and if I'm not on a good team I'm saying what data said when the enterprise crashed.
That's because he goes down so fast and easy to Mini's guns that he doesn't have time to see what just sent him to the respawn point.
2. damn bug ships.
3. ran into blackjack in his last night in a pug. you all know that guy is hella nasty in whatever he flies anyways. dude was rocking leech and the new fangled polaron proc with 5 pol consoles and stuff.
for **** sake, with only him targeting me i had 8 leeches stacked when he stacked a couple polaron procs on me. its just nasty stuff man. you can't hang with that unless you bring it yourself.
i managed to get a kill in on him while he was tanking my 4 laughable fed pugmates. oh, he had bad puggies too. i had a field day picking them off until he realized i had decloacked.
ah, the wonders of ship building in this cryptic world.
have fun kill bad guys
after a year of trying to get my wife to like trek, it took this scene to get her into the fold. Data is still her all time favorite, and she quotes and references him often.
(as a nerd i love this of course)
which has got me thinking. kling side, would i go khg or omega? either way.
MWO hiatus?
CommanderDonatra@Capt.Sisko: ahhh is it supposed to do that?
Norvo Tigan@dontdrunkimshoot: hell ya, maybe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw9oX-kZ_9k :cool:
Put your hands together and pray real hard that the bug captain is rubbish.
Against a good bug captain? Not a chance. You might be able to survive him if you're built for tanking but he'll be able to survive you quite easily, even if he's built for pure DPS.
Which is of course why you see so much of this ship in PvP. It moves at lightning speeds, tanks like crazy and deals insane damage. I don't think Cryptic factors in how big of a boost manoeuvrability gives to survivability. With such an escort, why fly any other.
Daizen - Lvl 60 Tactical - Eclipse
Selia - Lvl 60 Tactical - Eclipse
I'll never leave STO for good, but this will cause another hiatus for me.
CommanderDonatra@Capt.Sisko: ahhh is it supposed to do that?
Norvo Tigan@dontdrunkimshoot: hell ya, maybe
Omega? Polarized hull? Evasive Doffs? Aux to Damp? HE? TSS? EPTS? RSP? Tac Team?
Then you probobly need to know what it's Armaments are.. And it's Defenses...
MACO/KHG shield? Tet Glider? Borg? (Doubtful) Jem'Hadar?
Is it using Polaron? Tetryon? Antiproton? Phaser? Disruptor? Some Hybrid?
Are there Torpedos involved?
What about Mines?
As a BoP, you should probobly be Observing the enemy ship in battle before trying to Engage it and kill it. Watching what powers it's using. Weapons. And so forth. Watching for Procs and such.
If your in a 1 v 1 Match, as a BoP, you may be making a Mistake. Because there is no Surprise at that point. They know you are there. They can eaisly have their fingers on their Key Binds or Powers needed to defend against your Decloak/Alpha Strike. Then it's just a matter of Whiping around and blowing you up. It's why, when ever we've 1v1ed, you had a hard time, if ever, of beating me. Because I'd know your there. And it's just a matter of waiting for you.
Powers that you could use to defeat, in Theory, a Jem'Hadar Attack Ship:
Viral Matrix + Doffs
Chroniton Torpedoes/Mines
Photonic Shockwave
Phasers
Polaron + Plasmonic Leech
Tractor Beam
SNB Doffs
Eject Warp Plasma
CPB + Tet Glider + Tetryon Weapons/Hybrids could maybe work
Just to name some Ideas that come to mind.
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
He gets a Recon, or his mvam, and four buddies to go beat one to death the hard way.
Can it be a Tholian Orb instead of a Recon?
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
god no. i hate that damn web.