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Mirror Universe "Errors"

thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,250 Arc User
edited July 2012 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
If we're going to have them can we have the I.S.S. Prefix and the Terran Logo on them.

the dev who failed to place these on the ship models must report to the agony booth at once... other than that... love em :D
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Thank you for the Typhoon!
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  • rgrgeomrgrgeom Member Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    some of them do i think
    Long Live The Empire!
  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,250 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    rgrgeom wrote: »
    some of them do i think

    I've seen a few ships with the Terran logo where the starfleet/fleet logo is. (look at the mirror Typhoon... you'll see it clearly on there)
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    Thank you for the Typhoon!
  • admrenlarreckadmrenlarreck Member Posts: 2,041 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I think the OP is referring to the Player controlled ships...
    fayhers_starfleet.jpg


    Fleet leader Nova Elite

    Fleet Leader House of Nova elite
    @ren_larreck
  • pwebranflakespwebranflakes Member Posts: 7,741
    edited July 2012
    I mentioned this yesterday:
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    I know many of you are asking me via Twitter about the ISS prefix -- I just spoke to Starfleet Command and they let me know that when the Federation needed to make their "minimal modifications" to the mirror ships, they changed the prefix to USS so it could be re-registered. I'm being told that the KDF needed to do the same and updated the registry to IKS.

    There are also technical reasons behind it.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=
  • sdkraustsdkraust Member Posts: 524 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    How can we have NX then?
  • theindefatigabletheindefatigable Member Posts: 351 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    It actually makes sense, come to think of it, that the ships would have the U.S.S. prefix, like it or not. Why, there are plenty of real-world examples of similar situations: the German heavy cruiser Prinz Eugen, which accompanied the battleship Bismarck on her famous attempt to break out into the Atlantic, survived WWII and was taken by the U.S. Navy, which labeled it the "U.S.S. Prinz Eugen" before disposing of the vessel in nuclear weapons tests. (I guess it was a more dramatic ending for that fine ship than the scrapyard...)
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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    Founding member, Special Service Squadron
    "Fear God and Dread Nought." First Sea Lord, Adm. Jacky Fisher
  • zodiemishzodiemish Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    sdkraust wrote: »
    How can we have NX then?

    " NX was a registry prefix first used by the United Earth Starfleet for their NX-class starships in the mid-22nd century. (ENT: "Broken Bow", "Fortunate Son"). After the founding of the United Federation of Planets in 2161, this prefix was used for experimental and prototype starship designs. (Star Trek III: The Search for Spock) In the Mirror Universe, this prefix was used by the Terran Empire for their NX-class starships. (ENT: "In a Mirror, Darkly") Two centuries later, this prefix was used by the Terran Resistance Forces for their Defiant-class starship. (DS9: "Shattered Mirror") Ships that use the NCC and the NX prefix are listed in the Starfleet Registry. (TOS: "The Ultimate Computer") "

    SOURCE

    Know your Trek boi!!!!


    Kidding, but that is a good point. we can have the NX, but not the ISS. my guess is some where along the chain of command at the gods who control what we can and can't have have said no. we are star fleet.. not the Empire. these are the same people who say no to the T5 connie..

    of course I am just taking a guess. It could be that cryptic wants to put it in the Cstore.
  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,250 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    I mentioned this yesterday:



    There are also technical reasons behind it.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    hmmm... okay technical issue... well.. uhmm... how about changing the U to a I on the ship hull type while the game registers the ship as U.S.S.

    Edit: Please place the dev who failed to give us the I.S.S. Prefix in the agony booth plox.... failing that.. slap him/her :O
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    Thank you for the Typhoon!
  • carl103carl103 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    More likliy there's a technichial limitation and the prefix system can only accommodate 2 prefix's atm.
  • sito1jastsito1jast Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    well if the Prefix is a no for now.

    Can we get the Mirror Symbol for the ships as seen on the mirror npcs.
  • trhrangerxmltrhrangerxml Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Aren't there already Holoemitters that grand the ISS prefix?
    Hi, my name is: Elim Garak, Former Cardassian Oppressor

    LTS, here since...when did this game launch again? :D
  • eagledracoeagledraco Member Posts: 340 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I'm going to call CBS out on this. It's getting quite silly in this game.

    • Starfleet with no uniform standards (so Cryptic can sell any and all types of costumes).
    • Klingons with stricter uniform options (Cryptic doesn't have time to make more).

    • Starfleet / Klingons flying Dominion Ships (for sales) - CBS Approved.
    • Starfleet / Klingons flying Cardassian Ships (for sales) - CBS Approved.
    • Starfleet / Klingons flying Ferengi Ships (for sales) - CBS Approved.
    • Starfleet / Klingons flying Tholian Ships (for sales) - CBS Approved.
    • Starfleet / Klingons flying Mirror Ships (for sales) - CBS Approved.
    • Starfleet Flying Updated/Refitted Constitution Class at T5 - CBS Disallowed. Ha!

    • No Completed Klingon faction (no budget to finish).
    • No Romulan faction with ships (no budget to create).
    • No Dominion mini-faction with ships (no budget to create).
    • No Cardassian mini-faction with ships (no budget to create).
    • No I.S.S. Prefix for Mirror Ships ("technical concerns" - yeah right).


    The contradictions are astounding as far as what CBS allows and disallows. And as far as what Cryptic takes the time to create or not create.

    The "NX Prefix" was sold to players via pre-orders and I think later on in the C-Store. You can do the same here with the I.S.S. Prefix if you really wanted to.
  • thefastone21thefastone21 Member Posts: 210 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I know many of you are asking me via Twitter about the ISS prefix -- I just spoke to Starfleet Command and they let me know that when the Federation needed to make their "minimal modifications" to the mirror ships, they changed the prefix to USS so it could be re-registered. I'm being told that the KDF needed to do the same and updated the registry to IKS.

    Dear Starfleet Command

    I understand the technical reasons... next time im in port I request the use of one of the construction arms. I intend to use it to scratch part of the U off my hull

    Lots of Love...
    ...... Bob.


    Im not buying the technical issue... how hard could it be to replace a letter!
  • pwebranflakespwebranflakes Member Posts: 7,741
    edited July 2012
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Managed to bag a Mirror ship!

    Oddly, though, the box was labelled 'mirror assault cruiser' but it's a Star Cruiser. And it remains labelled 'mirror assault cruiser. But it's a mirror star cruiser.

    the Mirror Universe Assault Cruiser looks like the Prime Universe Star Cruiser :) Full details in this blog: http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=614731

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=
  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,250 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    the Mirror Universe Assault Cruiser looks like the Prime Universe Star Cruiser :) Full details in this blog: http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=614731

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    lol really?

    Im not sure how to respond to that...

    I think its better to admit that someone just got the ship names mixed up.. this is just going to confuse people.

    Edit: no wait.. yeah mirror the roles... I get it...
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    Thank you for the Typhoon!
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    I mentioned this yesterday:



    There are also technical reasons behind it.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=


    So what you are saying is that you forgot that little detail, and now that it is out, it's best not to devote more time for it?
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
    Like Duty Officers? Support effords to gather ideas
  • sito1jastsito1jast Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    the Mirror Universe Assault Cruiser looks like the Prime Universe Star Cruiser :) Full details in this blog: http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=614731

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    If your going to pass on feedback.. pass on this..

    As you've obviously seen via twitter etc.. people are willing to pay for the I.S.S. prefix.. now.. granted... how are we going to get it in story wise... well...

    a) we stole a mirror ship... ship should come with the I.S.S.

    b) as said above.. the ship builders scrape of part of the U

    next.. people... or atleast the ones i've spoken to are willing to pay for the I.S.S. Prefix... so... yeah.. you get profit.. we're happy... (for a few minutes).. tada

    That and... Mirror escorts, sci and battleship please :D
  • pwebranflakespwebranflakes Member Posts: 7,741
    edited July 2012
    anazonda wrote: »
    So what you are saying is that you forgot that little detail, and now that it is out, it's best not to devote more time for it?

    No; the team did not forget and tried to make it work, but it couldn't. If it was unlocked, it would have unlocked for all Fed ships you owned (like the NX does) and then you would have Prime Universe ships with the ISS prefix. Since the Federation had to make "minor modifications" anyways, they updated the registry (story wise). We may be able to look at this in the future, but tech is needed -- I'm pretty sure most players, and the team, would rather see that time devoted to other things, like (secret project) and (secret project) :)

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=
  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,250 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    No; the team did not forget and tried to make it work, but it couldn't. If it was unlocked, it would have unlocked for all Fed ships you owned (like the NX does) and then you would have Prime Universe ships with the ISS prefix. Since the Federation had to make "minor modifications" anyways, they updated the registry (story wise). We may be able to look at this in the future, but tech is needed -- I'm pretty sure most players, and the team, would rather see that time devoted to other things, like (secret project) and (secret project) :)

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    Given the choice I would rather have the I.S.S. Prefix and the Terran ship logo... its quite known that (secret project) will have a shorter fun feel to it.. and as for (secret project) well... do we need that? :P

    Thanks for the response(s) anyway.. now go to the agony booth!
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    Thank you for the Typhoon!
  • rgrgeomrgrgeom Member Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    no offence but i dont care about cryptics excuses. i would like an ISS prefix please. I rp as aTE character so please change the U to an I. that cant be that difficult
    Long Live The Empire!
  • admiralq1732admiralq1732 Member Posts: 1,561 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Not just the ISS prefix and on the name but HOW ABOUT THE ACTUALLY MIRROR PAINT SCHEME THESE GUYS ARE TERRAN EMPIRE NOT SECTION 31
  • sito1jastsito1jast Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    No; the team did not forget and tried to make it work, but it couldn't. If it was unlocked, it would have unlocked for all Fed ships you owned (like the NX does) and then you would have Prime Universe ships with the ISS prefix. Since the Federation had to make "minor modifications" anyways, they updated the registry (story wise). We may be able to look at this in the future, but tech is needed -- I'm pretty sure most players, and the team, would rather see that time devoted to other things, like (secret project) and (secret project) :)

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    I think he was refeering to the fact the mirror assult cruiser is the prime star etc... and it feels more like a mistake on your end.
    rgrgeom wrote: »
    no offence but i dont care about cryptics excuses. i would like an ISS prefix please. I rp as aTE character so please change the U to an I. that cant be that difficult

    They would need a thing so we could change the U.S.S. to I.S.S. ... that being said... I would pay for it.
  • atatassaultatatassault Member Posts: 1,008 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    No; the team did not forget and tried to make it work, but it couldn't. If it was unlocked, it would have unlocked for all Fed ships you owned (like the NX does) and then you would have Prime Universe ships with the ISS prefix. Since the Federation had to make "minor modifications" anyways, they updated the registry (story wise). We may be able to look at this in the future, but tech is needed -- I'm pretty sure most players, and the team, would rather see that time devoted to other things, like (secret project) and (secret project) :)

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=
    Aren't you also forgetting [REDACTED]?
  • thefastone21thefastone21 Member Posts: 210 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    While I can't speak for the dev team or the general player base, I would liek to see the I.S.S. Prefix added.
  • hatepwehatepwe Member Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    No; the team did not forget and tried to make it work, but it couldn't. If it was unlocked, it would have unlocked for all Fed ships you owned (like the NX does) and then you would have Prime Universe ships with the ISS prefix.

    Um...so? You let us fly: Galors, D'Koras, Ferengi Shuttles, Jem'Hadar attack Ships, and three different Tholian ships...but we can't have an I.S.S. registry and a paint job?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I don?t see any reason to have the I.S.S. prefix. The mirror vessels are no longer terran empire ships, they have been registered as Starfleet vessels and therefore they have a Starfleet registry, which includes the prefix.... :o
  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,250 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    qjunior wrote: »
    I don?t see any reason to have the I.S.S. prefix. The mirror vessels are no longer terran empire ships, they have been registered as Starfleet vessels and therefore they have a Starfleet registry, which includes the prefix.... :o

    aye... they were stolen... they should come with the I.S.S. ... but instead starfleet decided to paint a U on.
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    Thank you for the Typhoon!
  • synthiasuicidesynthiasuicide Member Posts: 458 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Hmm, so Mirror Assault Cruiser is a Dreadnought -Lance -1000 hull for +1 turn. lol

    I'm not feeling it. It's still a 9 Console ship. Unless below stats are incorrect.

    Mirror Universe Assault Cruiser

    Minimum Rank: Rear Admiral (Fed)
    Hull Strength: 39,000
    Shield Modifier: 1
    Crew: 1000
    Weapons: 4 Fore, 4 Aft
    Device Slots: 4
    Bridge Officer Stations: 1 Ensign Tactical, 1 Lieutenant Tactical, 1 Lieutenant Commander Engineering, 1 Commander Engineering, 1 Lieutenant Science
    Console Modifications: 3 Tactical, 4 Engineering, 2 Science
    Base Turn Rate: 7 degrees per second
    Impulse Modifier: 0.15
    +5 Power to all Subsystems
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    sito1jast wrote: »
    I think he was refeering to the fact the mirror assult cruiser is the prime star etc... and it feels more like a mistake on your end.

    Actually no... I was referring to me not believing that they remembered to add it. He was right... I still don't.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
    Like Duty Officers? Support effords to gather ideas
  • rgrgeomrgrgeom Member Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    i dont even consider myself federation. my character and t all my other characters are all alternate universe based. i dont do a lot of RP. but my character and his background is alternate reality so i dont think we can really have some excuse about the federation modifying ships or whatever considering the number of people flying around in galor's or bugships. yes this is star trek but this is an mmo and some freedom is required especially with the lack of factions. i play fed which allows me RP as a mercenary/trader/contractor/TE etc. no more bs about federation altering ships and prefixes because its TRIBBLE. just give me my ISS prefix and i will give you my money! simple!
    Long Live The Empire!
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