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boglejam73
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I understand some people like the challenge of bringing a Miranda to a fleet action, but it isn't really fair to the others in the event.
You don't have the weapon slots or the hull strength to contribute to the fight and spend more time dead than alive, killing the group ability to earn fleet marks. You also mess up the already crappy loot drops. Instead of mk X and mk XI, you'll see mk II gear.
Would like to see Cryptic institute a rule that for any public queue event that requires a level 50 player, the players have to bring at least Tier 4 ships.
If you want to F up the already F'd up fleet mark grind, do it in a private event.
You don't have the weapon slots or the hull strength to contribute to the fight and spend more time dead than alive, killing the group ability to earn fleet marks. You also mess up the already crappy loot drops. Instead of mk X and mk XI, you'll see mk II gear.
Would like to see Cryptic institute a rule that for any public queue event that requires a level 50 player, the players have to bring at least Tier 4 ships.
If you want to F up the already F'd up fleet mark grind, do it in a private event.
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How is it fair to low level players to not be able to do any fleet action. I have a level 50 character and a level 26 character and I do want to be able to do FA with both of them.
Not all lowbies are useless. I was on my level 26 character (tank/healer) in my heavy cruiser yesterday doing FA's and we completed the defense mission with no real difficulties. I knew I could not do any real DPS, So I found a TAC captain stuck by him and throw heal after heal at him, buffing his shields(wait does that sound dirty) so he could lay down more DPS and make up for my lack of it.
I know it can be frustrating getting stuck with under powered players (STF elites are full of them), but cutting out a part of the game from them is not really an answer. I learned on my level 50 doing Elite STFs, don't GUP with quick play, if you want to be successful. Find a group in your fleet or go around chatting to people and find a few dedicated people. Who like yourself want to GUP and do private matches, away from the random lowbies.
I might not have been specific enough in my title but did you see the part where I said "Would like to see Cryptic institute a rule that for any public queue event that requires a level 50 player, the players have to bring at least Tier 4 ships"?
I know you can't keep newbs out of everything, but NO Win Scenerio (and I think a couple of the others) require you to be a level 50 character. No reason to allow people to bring a Centaur to that fight.
As a compromise, they could run two versions of the events, one open to anyone in any ship, the other open to endgame level characters with Tier 4 or higher ships. They already offer two versions of the STF queues (normal/elite) so this shouldn't be terribly difficult to implement.
Event rewards should inverse scale
so a LT gets most marks
a Lt com next most
a com next
and so on
with VA and LG getting the least
This would encourage fleets to recruit lower ranks and make for more realistic fleets
note i am not saying cut the award for a VA just add a bonus (say 2 mks) per rank below it
Thats fine. Would be good especially for private queues run by a specific fleet so that the fleet members could all play together.
My problem is in the non-private queues. I'm not really interested in if LT Joe from the Shmoe Fleet gets his marks specifically. I'm more interested in all team players being able to earn marks without having to carry dead weight.
A ship with 2 forward and 1 aft weapon isn't bringing anything to the fight and on No Win Scenerio, you may not even reach wave 3. So now you have to wait for the cooldown and all you got out of the effort was 2 fleet marks? In an event that you have to be a VA to even queue for? That makes no sense.
It can be quite difficult at times to find enough people in your level bracket to run content. If you only want tier 4+ high ranked players, make yourself a private queue.
Yeah, normally I would agree. Here is the deal thou - There are a ton of us endgame players, who are in either very small fleets or solo fleets. We shouldn't have to scrounge to fill private queues for fleet marks when the simple solution is to just run two versions of the event:
No Win Scenario (VA, Tier 4 or higher ships)
No Win Scenario (Anybody in Any Ship)
That way, people who don't have enough fleet members to run private but still want to earn our marks don't get burdened with the dead weight miranda pilots or stuck in a queue that never pops.
No amount of auto-leveling will compensate for 2 fore/1 aft weapon and as you mentioned, one-skill BOs.
As for the issue, it would be simpler gameplay wise to simply have number of variants of this mission to suit particular level ranges (10-19, 20-29 etc). It would also save an enormous amount of frustration for the high level players currently in the missions who would other wise have to carry all the dead weight.
I just can't believe that Sollvax is being listened to 0.o
Long answer:
It's nice to have something to do with my fleet buddies who play infrequently and at hours where the whole fleet isn't on. Just leave the little stuff (BoP's and Raptors) to the lowbie ships. Go for the chunkier targets.
its possible to be LT for weeks
even years
just don't "hammer down" the leveling
I agree with everything the OP said.
I can't even begin to count the missions (STF's, or new fleet stuff) that were failed due to some goon bringing in a T1 ship. Most of the time, we just BARELY miss the time limit.
15+ minutes ending in no loot for anyone (marks, tech, salvage, etc...)
At that point, that person just wasted 4 other people's time. Had he/she brought at least a T4 ship, we could've finished it in time.
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