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matteo716maikaimatteo716maikai Member Posts: 823
edited July 2012 in PvP Gameplay
Concentus: Let's see, why do pets keep getting added to the game, and on the same subject, why do skills that stop and immobilize players keep getting added to the game, and apparently they make the game more annoying. I will agree with the stuns and immobilizations are very annoying. They drive me crazy in the other Science Fiction MMO that shall rename nameless.

Geko: Umm... so... why do they get added? First of all, I'd like the question to be a little more specific as far as ground or space. Like, there's, you know it's like any other game where, I think maybe a lot of people not taking their stun and control resistance abilities, and then those things don't last as long. Umm.. we don't really feel like we add a lot, and it's one of those things that when it happens, it kinda, you remember it and it's not fun when it happens to you. In space we're a lot more forgiving, because we've got more levers where we can take your engines offline, your weapons offline, your auxiliary, your shields, and um I don't think there's any actual holds in space that I can think of. And let's be clear in the terminology, that immobilization, you might call a root, where you can't move, and a stun could be in Star Trek, on the ground, is basically a hold, where you can't move or attack.


this explains some things- we all apparently need to spec into resists. who'd have thunk it?
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  • zorena#3961 zorena Member Posts: 254 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Shield bug was just a display glitch also. bug report bug.
    Noone.
  • aytanhiaytanhi Member Posts: 107 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Replace all consoles and weapons with carrier slots :D
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  • havamhavam Member Posts: 1,735 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    adds three points into TSI forum chain resists skill....then makes a bloated excel sheet about it
  • mavairomavairo Member Posts: 579
    edited July 2012
    All I have to say is, if he watches the vids I will be working on Friday, he's in for another shocker, much like Voldemort.

    And maybe captain gecko an alleged expert on the game, will finally admit they really don't know what they are doing.

    and maybe just maybe, rather than do stupid stuff or say stuff is fixed at random... actually either Test this stuff, or even just simply consult the pvp community.

    Because nothing special was really done in the soon to be coming vids... this was BASIC testing. (let alone future, Live Tests in pvp that I will be doing down the road if issues are not addressed. I apologize in advance for any hurt feelings my klink team will be delivering over the next few weeks)
  • zorena#3961 zorena Member Posts: 254 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Oh I know that pure garbage build already, sure Mavrio if you wanna win.

    • 5 kar'fi 7 phaser turrets
    • power siphon pods
    • aceton skill-eliminators
    • Plasmonic leach console

    and afew tykens 3 also because don't make it too easy.

    Think 5man of that is gonna be insta warpout for any good teams.


    Oh and forgot tetryon glider maybe scattervolley 1-2 and hmm snb doffs.


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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    a ship with a tractor, chrono and all the other annoying stuff is 1 thing, hell even a team full of that stuff is 1 thing, but when you give these types of things to pets, suddenly you go from 5 of these to worry about to 20. thats when the game stops working, thats when things arent as intended, but the devs would actually have to test this stuff in a pvp match to notice.

    i put a lot of points in resistance, but it barely works or plain doesn't work. what does work is helpless against the volume of pet disables and stuns though. we still don't know FOR SURE if insulators guards against the glider. dampeners is getting tweekes to work better against chronos, but it might work better against tractor beams too now, might be worth specing into 6 for it soon. the confuses are mostly harmless or to short to mater, except AMS, which can some times last 15 seconds it seems. is still spec 3 into it. subsystem repair would be fine if crew wasn't a multiplier. have to give up an active roster spot for the nurse to effectively defend against that. volume of that TRIBBLE is the problem, not people blowing off specing into resistance.
  • havamhavam Member Posts: 1,735 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    mavairo wrote: »
    All I have to say is, if he watches the vids I will be working on Friday, he's in for another shocker, much like Voldemort.

    And maybe captain gecko an alleged expert on the game, will finally admit they really don't know what they are doing.

    and maybe just maybe, rather than do stupid stuff or say stuff is fixed at random... actually either Test this stuff, or even just simply consult the pvp community.

    Because nothing special was really done in the soon to be coming vids... this was BASIC testing. (let alone future, Live Tests in pvp that I will be doing down the road if issues are not addressed. I apologize in advance for any hurt feelings my klink team will be delivering over the next few weeks)

    make sure to count the clicks, 20 is the number to beat
  • mavairomavairo Member Posts: 579
    edited July 2012
    zorandra wrote: »
    Oh I know that pure garbage build already, sure Mavrio if you wanna win.

    • 5 kar'fi 7 phaser turrets
    • power siphon pods
    • aceton skill-eliminators
    • Plasmonic leach console

    and afew tykens 3 also because don't make it too easy.

    Think 5man of that is gonna be insta warpout for any good teams.


    Oh and forgot tetryon glider maybe scattervolley 1-2 and hmm snb doffs.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hCyzdg-iEs



    Nah. You can do it actually abit Better than the 5 karfi team. (the method I'm using will get faster kills) It's TRIBBLE.

    Sides that if people weren't running 5 man extend garbage teams this sort of thing probably wouldn't need to happen ;)

    That aside, I'm mostly doing this for Fraps purposes. If you don't wanna deal with it don't que for CnH (as that is where Fraps presently works best with sto in pvp).
  • cmdrparthoscmdrparthos Member Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Great! let us know when we can watch, so we can all..I dont know know...shake our heads in disgust? :)

    or maybe..not do it in favor of..keeping the game fun? ok I'll step off my soapbox and not queue at all for the next month :(
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  • aquitaine985aquitaine985 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    or maybe..not do it in favor of..keeping the game fun? ok I'll step off my soapbox and not queue at all for the next month :(

    That's the spirit ;)
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  • mavairomavairo Member Posts: 579
    edited July 2012
    Don't worry guys.

    It'll get changed once the facerollers whine about it.

    That aside, rejoice that I'm not posting the Super Dickmove 5000 Team Build on the forum that I cooked up! :eek:
  • cmdrparthoscmdrparthos Member Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    yeah, i just wanting to be abkle to run 2 cruiser, 1 sci and 2 escorts comepetivtly again :) to hell with extend-o-matics and drain teams! :)
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  • mavairomavairo Member Posts: 579
    edited July 2012
    yeah, i just wanting to be abkle to run 2 cruiser, 1 sci and 2 escorts comepetivtly again :) to hell with extend-o-matics and drain teams! :)

    or 2 sci 2 scorts 1 cruiser.



    Stupid Cryptic.
    Ah well. Maybe my vids will help change things again.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvLnZ_Ouo-M&feature=plcp
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmuBCOnz8WI&feature=plcp
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2jVKaLNnqs&feature=plcp

    I'll post an Article with these in sto Genital detailing what happened, how things broke down etc. But here's the raw footage as a preview.
  • matteo716maikaimatteo716maikai Member Posts: 823
    edited July 2012
    mavairo wrote: »
    or 2 sci 2 scorts 1 cruiser.



    Stupid Cryptic.
    Ah well. Maybe my vids will help change things again.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvLnZ_Ouo-M&feature=plcp
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmuBCOnz8WI&feature=plcp
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2jVKaLNnqs&feature=plcp

    I'll post an Article with these in sto Genital detailing what happened, how things broke down etc. But here's the raw footage as a preview.

    i dont think you spelt genital right.... unless im completely mis-reading it.
  • falloutx23falloutx23 Member Posts: 456
    edited July 2012
    the more important question is "who the hell is the real leader of TSI, aytannhi, or matteo?"
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    mavairo wrote: »
    or 2 sci 2 scorts 1 cruiser.



    Stupid Cryptic.
    Ah well. Maybe my vids will help change things again.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvLnZ_Ouo-M&feature=plcp
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmuBCOnz8WI&feature=plcp
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2jVKaLNnqs&feature=plcp

    I'll post an Article with these in sto Genital detailing what happened, how things broke down etc. But here's the raw footage as a preview.

    ya... the final product of this is sure to be good. hey, 9 energy is beter then 0 right guys? over 200 particle generators and less then 2k shield drain, thats not much at all. and a single chrono proc cuts your movement in half, and a second cut your movement in half again i think?

    the best way to load up on chrono procs is to get that carrier friend to use 2 advanced interceptors, think i had 4 from them once.
  • zorena#3961 zorena Member Posts: 254 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    falloutx23 wrote: »
    the more important question is "who the hell is the real leader of TSI, aytannhi, or matteo?"

    Its me m8 :)
    Noone.
  • cmdrparthoscmdrparthos Member Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    thanks for the raw footage there..multprocs? that explains a bit.. :/ that and chrons still do not have a counter that works..like you were pointing out in the vid Mav.
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  • falloutx23falloutx23 Member Posts: 456
    edited July 2012
    zorandra wrote: »
    Its me m8 :)

    i knew it!
  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    mavairo wrote: »
    or 2 sci 2 scorts 1 cruiser.



    Stupid Cryptic.
    Ah well. Maybe my vids will help change things again.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvLnZ_Ouo-M&feature=plcp
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmuBCOnz8WI&feature=plcp
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2jVKaLNnqs&feature=plcp

    I'll post an Article with these in sto Genital detailing what happened, how things broke down etc. But here's the raw footage as a preview.

    Definitely good stuff.

    On a side note apparently those Vids, while in 1080p mode has a 3D option too. Almost makes me wish I had 3D glasses for my Vid card if it was 3D capable.. (Can't remember if it is) lol Watch that in trippy 3D. :D
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  • matteo716maikaimatteo716maikai Member Posts: 823
    edited July 2012
    falloutx23 wrote: »
    the more important question is "who the hell is the real leader of TSI, aytannhi, or matteo?"

    its a little known made up fact that aytahni, matteo, and zorena are all the same person! (there used to be another personality called "faithborn" but he said "**** this ****" a long time ago.)

    :P

    tsi actually has 4 leaders, 3 active 1 inactive in sto.
  • havamhavam Member Posts: 1,735 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    they are the spanish inquisition, if you can still post in the pvp sections of the forums repent your sins and make up a convincing story for when they get to you. I hear aytahni's assimilation techniques into the hippie collective formerly known as TSI are particularly ....interesting
  • gx4th23gx4th23 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Concentus: Let's see, why do pets keep getting added to the game, and on the same subject, why do skills that stop and immobilize players keep getting added to the game, and apparently they make the game more annoying. I will agree with the stuns and immobilizations are very annoying. They drive me crazy in the other Science Fiction MMO that shall rename nameless.

    Let me translate with my corporations-are-people-my-friends-lol translator 3.1 here. More pets, more shiny, more stuff = more dilithium, more c-points, more money, cryptic = moar happy.

    You really hope that cryptic cares about balance? more than quick monetary gains?
    "No, there is no real problem with P2W in STO. Obviously, if you fight against someone with an equal level of skill in the game, better equipment will give you an edge. But usually, it is the skill level that determines the outcome, not the P2W." -Logimo
  • falloutx23falloutx23 Member Posts: 456
    edited July 2012
    havam wrote: »
    they are the spanish inquisition, if you can still post in the pvp sections of the forums repent your sins and make up a convincing story for when they get to you. I hear aytahni's assimilation techniques into the hippie collective formerly known as TSI are particularly ....interesting

    Isnt it "the TSI"?
  • lintyuklintyuk Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    falloutx23 wrote: »
    Isnt it "the TSI"?

    Nope, and Kai missed out an extra fleet leader too, he keeps putting them down and forgetting where he left them.
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  • mavairomavairo Member Posts: 579
    edited July 2012
    webdeath wrote: »
    Definitely good stuff.

    On a side note apparently those Vids, while in 1080p mode has a 3D option too. Almost makes me wish I had 3D glasses for my Vid card if it was 3D capable.. (Can't remember if it is) lol Watch that in trippy 3D. :D

    Yeah that's one of the glorious things about Windows movie maker.. that or it's the drivers for my vid card :)

    Anyway I'll get started on the Article tomorrow. We'll see what kind of responses it generates.
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