Best weapon type for PvP

soulwarrior78

I used to play this game when it first came out, over 2 yrs ago, then I switched to other games, and now I came back (swtor blows), and I'm wondering what damage type to use on my escort ship.

I heard antiproton is good, but for a pvp situation wouldn't phaser or polaron be better since they actually have procs unlike antiproton?

Speaking of Polaron, the proc for that is -25 to all systems, but it doesn't say how long that -25 lasts. Is it for 5 seconds like the procs from the other weapons, or does it stay -25 until the target gets out of combat or how does that work exactly?

Thanks.

falloutx23

phaser=disable=death

talzerotwo

I pretty much never fly escorts. But my understanding is that antiprotion should be for tac captains because of their higher crit rate? phasers = king for procs. polaron = idk. dis = you only need on person running this on team. plasma = everyone and their ma has resists to it. tetryeon = good for back up to switch to as not too many folk resist specifically against it.

my reccomendation is phasers for the proc. ap if you're a tac. but probably someone more familiar with escorts can help you with that.

talzerotwo

falloutx23 wrote: »

phaser=disable=death

what he said.

dant158

Phaser is definately the most potent proc... Too potent? Perhaps.

shimmerless

soulwarrior78 wrote: »

I used to play this game when it first came out, over 2 yrs ago, then I switched to other games, and now I came back (swtor blows), and I'm wondering what damage type to use on my escort ship.

I heard antiproton is good, but for a pvp situation wouldn't phaser or polaron be better since they actually have procs unlike antiproton?

Speaking of Polaron, the proc for that is -25 to all systems, but it doesn't say how long that -25 lasts. Is it for 5 seconds like the procs from the other weapons, or does it stay -25 until the target gets out of combat or how does that work exactly?

Thanks.

Antiproton has an innate proc (i.e. it isn't a chance/rolled for) which boosts crit severity. If you're specced right, the extra DPS adds up fast. Unfortunately there are no available antiproton weapons with decent modifiers (iirc there aren't even [Acc]x2s) so their use is very limited at best.

Phaser is pretty much king of the roost.

neurodopamine

If you happen to own a Galor, the Spiral-Wave Disruptors are the best weapon type.

piwright42

I have seen a few of late call phasers cheesy. To me that says it all. Otherwise I see it as situational.

Tac on an escort? Antiprotons or phasers

Engie in a cruiser that wants to actually tank? Tetryons for sure or possibly Polarons

Flying a Garumba and want the javelin to mean something? Disruptors

For everything else there are phasers.

Eww I use phasers on my Qin Raptor.

bawj4ws

Phaser proc is the most noticeable. Not sure if its broken or if its because there are now a lot of pets using this weapon type.

still sticking with polaron for energy stripping goodness

otherdave

the type that makes things go BAAA-BOOOOM!!!!!!

havam

piwright42 wrote: »

I have seen a few of late call phasers cheesy.

because they are, always have been, and with phaser proc spamming pets it becomes even harder to ignore for those defenders of canon weapon types

piwright42

havam wrote: »

because they are, always have been, and with phaser proc spamming pets it becomes even harder to ignore for those defenders of canon weapon types

Which is why I keep my disruptor load out in my personal inventory so when I do PvP I do not have to hear calls of cheese. LOL

wolverine595959

havam wrote: »

because they are, always have been, and with phaser proc spamming pets it becomes even harder to ignore for those defenders of canon weapon types

I personally feel that pets should get the energy weapon of the player ship. I have seen a few fed carriers with disruptors and pet phaser spam.

rdm1958

talzerotwo wrote: »

I pretty much never fly escorts. But my understanding is that antiprotion should be for tac captains because of their higher crit rate? phasers = king for procs. polaron = idk. dis = you only need on person running this on team. plasma = everyone and their ma has resists to it. tetryeon = good for back up to switch to as not too many folk resist specifically against it.

my reccomendation is phasers for the proc. ap if you're a tac. but probably someone more familiar with escorts can help you with that.

i had planned on doing a plasma build with a reman set.....i don't hear a lot of good concerning plasma. i'm going to see for myself anyway.

i use disruptors on my multi-vector escort and it works great.

piwright42

rdm1958 wrote: »

i had planned on doing a plasma build with a reman set.....i don't hear a lot of good concerning plasma. i'm going to see for myself anyway.

i use disruptors on my multi-vector escort and it works great.

Plasma is great, well it would be great if everyone and their pet did not have resistance to it from Borg STF sets.

zackaryss

phaser has the best proc, especially when u take out their shield with it

spiral disruptors are better proc yet tho. its both phaser and disruptor proc

corsair114

It goes something like this...

All of the procs in the game are nice bonuses that exist in addition to the weapon's basic function of doing damage, save one. Phaser procs would be and are nasty even if you're doing 0 damage. They can have anywhere from annoying to murderous consequences anytime they activate, all the time, period.

mustrumridcully0

I had a way too long match yesterday involved only 2 Escorts and several Cruisers and Carriers.

Some of those Cruisers really had builds, but the Escort insisted on hitting the good build Cruisers. Anyway, a phaser proc disabling shields was often responsible for killing one of the harder to kill targets. Not having your 50+ % shield resists at your side hurts big time.

broken1981

wolverine595959 wrote: »

I personally feel that pets should get the energy weapon of the player ship. I have seen a few fed carriers with disruptors and pet phaser spam.

ask yoursled why they use phaser pets to begin with.......tractors and cono spam like good little noobs they are to abuse the system.

mavairo

Phasers.

Anything Phaser.


Phasers are still ridiculously overpowered.

broken1981

rdm1958 wrote: »

i use disruptors on my multi-vector escort and it works great.

you do know the pets get boosted by consoles right? so if your running disruptor and split up your ship they use phaser thus not getting wep damage boosted.

could never understand how you can load ap distruptr or any other wep type, split up the ship and magically the pets shoot phaser. idk kinda lol to me.

warmaker001b

Hard to ignore Phasers.

But Plasma? For T5 PVP, useless. For lower tiers, esp. below RAdm/BGen, Plasma can actually be useful.

rdm1958

broken1981 wrote: »

you do know the pets get boosted by consoles right? so if your running disruptor and split up your ship they use phaser thus not getting wep damage boosted.

could never understand how you can load ap distruptr or any other wep type, split up the ship and magically the pets shoot phaser. idk kinda lol to me.

i have noticed that but i rarely split my multi vector escort. does not make sense though.

crusty8mac

Okay, here is what you do. Try them all.

Either go to the vendors or the exchange and pick up a complete set of the weapon type you want to try. Don't worry about getting blue or purple, green is plenty good. Should be able to get those cheap (and maybe even blue or purple depending on the type) along with the related consoles. Don't worry about getting Mk XI or Mk XII. Green or white Mk Xs are fine for this.

Try them. If you don't like them. Try something else. Once you find something you like, begin investing in higher quality.

falloutx23

broken1981 wrote: »

you do know the pets get boosted by consoles right? so if your running disruptor and split up your ship they use phaser thus not getting wep damage boosted.

could never understand how you can load ap distruptr or any other wep type, split up the ship and magically the pets shoot phaser. idk kinda lol to me.

did this change after the new skill tree? I know this wasnt the case before the switch, which admittedly was a long time ago now. (been awhile since I flew mvam)

marctraiderz

Basically this:

Phaser > Polaron/Tetryon > Disruptor > Anti Proton > Plasma.

Why? Phasers have obviously the best procs.

Polaron/Tetryon both drain some stuff from your ship, practically its basically about the same end effect.

Disruptor -10 debuff, not better then Tet/Pol but still better then AP. Although that -10 is really hardly noticable at all. (Hull resistance debuff)

Antiproton +20 Severity. Negligable since all available weapon mods for AP are with [dmg] mods anyway. That would mean they would do a few DPS more then a different weapon type with CrtDx3 mods. Also u cannot use these with 2x or 3x Accuracy on any of them, perhaps 1 that might have 2x acc, but thats it.

Plasma? About all good shields reduce its damage by 20%.



These are the facts on Weapons in PvP. If anyone tells you otherwise, they are in error.

wolfpack12c

First off AP dose have a (acc)x2 mode I have 3 turts that are (acc)x2 (critH) that have that cost more then I want to admit and further more there is a (acc)x3 AP I've only seen it on a DC before and I've never seen it on any other weapon well ever but they do exist.

xxxhellspawnyxxx

Is there any truth in the rumor that the Disruptor debuff is in fact -10 for all other damage types but -30 for Disruptor itself?

dant158

Gotta shoot them in the head!

xxxhellspawnyxxx

dantrainor wrote: »

Gotta shoot them in the head!

I'd rather shred his cruiser to pieces.

Btw. the assertion came from a member of TSI, and he claimed he could prove it.

dassemsto

i hear complaining in the forum has merit! (actually i hear it's completely OP!)

Please someone ZOMBIE this thread! Half the mechanics discussed in it were changed a month or two ago, and this thread should be buried and forgotten!