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How are they not winning the war?

supergaminggeeksupergaminggeek Member Posts: 616 Arc User
edited July 2012 in Klingon Discussion
The Klingons have a multiplier of 5 on the Federation. Sure, it makes PvP for them easy, but what about the Federation? They have wargames, sure, but once they take a real fight to Klingons, why are they not as tough as they feel in wargames?
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  • adon333adon333 Member Posts: 304
    edited June 2012
    Hmmnn...Not enough cowbell?
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    The Klingons have a multiplier of 5 on the Federation. Sure, it makes PvP for them easy, but what about the Federation? They have wargames, sure, but once they take a real fight to Klingons, why are they not as tough as they feel in wargames?

    Multiplier of 5 what? What makes PvP easy for us?
    Everytime I fight the Feds winning comes down to team work in the ques or numbers in Ker'rat to get victory. Skill of participants is the biggest factor though in fvKPvP.

    The feds may not seem as tough becuase fighting FvF is a lot different than fvKing. Different foes means different tactics.

    Though the embittered KDF fan in me says to not worry, The feds will have that "easy PvP" versus us KDF'ers just as soon as the Devs finish selling it to you.
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  • adon333adon333 Member Posts: 304
    edited June 2012
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    Multiplier of 5 what? What makes PvP easy for us?
    Everytime I fight the Feds winning comes down to team work in the ques or numbers in Ker'rat to get victory. Skill of participants is the biggest factor though in fvKPvP.

    The feds may not seem as tough becuase fighting FvF is a lot different than fvKing. Different foes means different tactics.

    Though the embittered KDF fan in me says to not worry, The feds will have that "easy PvP" versus us KDF'ers just as soon as the Devs finish selling it to you.

    In all seriousness I have to agree with Roach on this.. especially since it turns out there is some truth in the fed BoP and cloak rumors we've been hearing. Pretty soon feds will have that last remaining 4% of the Klingon experience they don't yet have and have been screaming for.
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Links or other evidence to the Cloak and fedBoP rumors, please.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    The Klingons have a multiplier of 5 on the Federation. Sure, it makes PvP for them easy, but what about the Federation? They have wargames, sure, but once they take a real fight to Klingons, why are they not as tough as they feel in wargames?

    Have you considered, that on average, the small KDF player population is more PvP-centric? This is most applicable to the longtime KDF players that have been around since the beginning, when there was literally, nothing else for the KDF to do but do PVP or bash their heads mindlessly on Empire Defense missions in the nebulas.

    On average, I'd take a KDF pug over a Starfleet pug any day of the week, but there are some Fed PVPers that of course really know their stuff. But with such a large population on the Blue Side of the Neutral Zone, the blood is a little "thin" when it comes to PVP.
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I still do not understand the multiples of 5 reference......
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  • deano65ehgdeano65ehg Member Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    wat multiplyer of 5 ?:confused:
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  • bawj4wsbawj4ws Member Posts: 102 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    I still do not understand the multiples of 5 reference......

    every klingon is worth 5 feds?

    Basic trigonometry Roach :rolleyes:
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  • adon333adon333 Member Posts: 304
    edited June 2012
    I think this thread might not be as it appears..... >.>
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  • skyranger1414skyranger1414 Member Posts: 1,785 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    The Klingons have a multiplier of 5 on the Federation. Sure, it makes PvP for them easy, but what about the Federation? They have wargames, sure, but once they take a real fight to Klingons, why are they not as tough as they feel in wargames?

    Multiplier of 5? That was just teamwork, it can make it seem you're fighting 5 times your number.
  • kalavierkalavier Member Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    How have klingons not won the war? Maybe their obsession with killing each other over honor?
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Nah. we are hardly obsessed with killing each other.
    If that was the case then the KvK ques and the N'vak (KDF ker'rat) would be full all the time and the feds would have nothing to ***** about.

    Nobody wins the war becuase nobody is suppossed to win the war in this MMO.
    Leonard Nimoy, Spock.....:(

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  • kalavierkalavier Member Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    Nah. we are hardly obsessed with killing each other.
    If that was the case then the KvK ques and the N'vak (KDF ker'rat) would be full all the time and the feds would have nothing to ***** about.

    Nobody wins the war becuase nobody is suppossed to win the war in this MMO.

    Was meaning the whole "His family talked to a romulan, WE MUST KILL THE ENTIRE HOUSE."

    Or the "My brother tripped and broke his hip. I must kill him because his honor is tarnished!"

    Basically, part sarcasm, part actuality of Klingon nature I've seen.
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    kalavier wrote: »
    Was meaning the whole "His family talked to a romulan, WE MUST KILL THE ENTIRE HOUSE."

    Or the "My brother tripped and broke his hip. I must kill him because his honor is tarnished!"

    Basically, part sarcasm, part actuality of Klingon nature I've seen.

    lol- poor writing and bad storylines.

    The same could be said , " How come nobody has killed off Star Fleet yet?"
    With all thier high and mighty attitudes that everyone not following the fed way of doing things is wrong its a wonder they where not exterminated years ago in a joint effort of all the "villian" races together.
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    The main reason the Federation has not won is the Federations own captains (being a really stuck in the mud bunch) they are still arguing over who is going to TANK the KDF fleet while the 40,000 cloaked escorts sit there like lemons

    The main reason the klingons have not won is they don't want to
    A war is a glorious adventure to the klingons
    but a crushed federation ??
    Boring
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  • timezargtimezarg Member Posts: 1,268
    edited July 2012
    sollvax wrote: »
    The main reason the Federation has not won is the Federations own captains (being a really stuck in the mud bunch) they are still arguing over who is going to TANK the KDF fleet while the 40,000 cloaked escorts sit there like lemons

    The main reason the klingons have not won is they don't want to
    A war is a glorious adventure to the klingons
    but a crushed federation ??
    Boring

    Well put. The Klingon Empire must always have an enemy, an adversary, to test the mettle of our warriors and the power of our ships.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    timezarg wrote: »
    Well put. The Klingon Empire must always have an enemy, an adversary, to test the mettle of our warriors and the power of our ships.

    Wasn't there supposed to be a Klingon saying that if you have to make peace, do so, but leave someone to fight with. Or something along those lines :cool:
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  • ferdzso0ferdzso0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Klingons lose because they do not bring new ships (lulz), so the Federation gains the upper hand. and Fed not wins because they are peaceful :D

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  • bloctoadbloctoad Member Posts: 660 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    kalavier wrote: »
    Was meaning the whole "His family talked to a romulan, WE MUST KILL THE ENTIRE HOUSE."

    Or the "My brother tripped and broke his hip. I must kill him because his honor is tarnished!"

    Basically, part sarcasm, part actuality of Klingon nature I've seen.

    PWE/Cryptic won the war. It's we as players who lost. But in all honesty, I haven't logged on a character in a couple of weeks and don't miss it.
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Wasn't there supposed to be a Klingon saying that if you have to make peace, do so, but leave someone to fight with. Or something along those lines :cool:

    tlhIngan Hol: Hoch jaghpu'Daj HoHbogh SuvwI' yIvup
    Literal translation: Pity the warrior that kills all his enemies!
    Leonard Nimoy, Spock.....:(

    R.I.P
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