This is my first post and i thought i had better write one after my first venture into PVP.
So i run an engi odyssey and i have been getting bored of running STF's all the time so i thought lets try pvp. I played two games, one arena and the second was capture and hold.
First game i thought not bad our team lost 15-13 but i enjoyed it. My healing was the highest of both teams and i thought yup this is wot an engi should be doing. Then came capture and hold..we were decimated, didnt get 1 cap and i was being ripped to shreds. The game finished and i ususally say my customary good game in chat to everyone, but this time i didnt i went a bit further. I said good game and added that it was my first time trying it. Left the game then i got a private message..."here we go" i thought, im going to recieve some msg like learn to play the game, your a noob etc etc.
Well i was pleasently suprised by the message as it was from someone on the other side congratulating on a good game and if i need any tips just ask. So i did...cut a long story short for thenext hour he helped go through my build and explain stuff like stacking consolest and doff powers to utilize my carrier to be a real force..His name was "Beiber" and he was part of the sad panda cubs (i believe).
So i would like to say a big THANK YOU to him and to all other players who take the time to help other fellow captains out and to show there are some really decent ppl on this game, not morons who constantly complain and abuse other players (STF).
So THANK YOU for the time and you sir are a gentleman and a scholar......thanks
welcome shanksboy. Gald you are having fun in pvp, and are part of the fresh blood we all hoped to see with F2P.
As an Eng healer, I have to warn you though, healing pugs when you know what you are doing can be rather frustrating. Get just one guy on your team, et voila you ll be having much more fun and helping your team.
I m glad that the savage beasts that are the pvp community, have greeted you with kindness. Have fun with the cubs, once i get back into pewpew i m looking forward to fly along with ya.
As for "gentleman and scholar" no matter how many alts you make Biebs, we all know you are a moron in clever disguise
This is my first post and i thought i had better write one after my first venture into PVP.
So i run an engi odyssey and i have been getting bored of running STF's all the time so i thought lets try pvp. I played two games, one arena and the second was capture and hold.
First game i thought not bad our team lost 15-13 but i enjoyed it. My healing was the highest of both teams and i thought yup this is wot an engi should be doing. Then came capture and hold..we were decimated, didnt get 1 cap and i was being ripped to shreds. The game finished and i ususally say my customary good game in chat to everyone, but this time i didnt i went a bit further. I said good game and added that it was my first time trying it. Left the game then i got a private message..."here we go" i thought, im going to recieve some msg like learn to play the game, your a noob etc etc.
Well i was pleasently suprised by the message as it was from someone on the other side congratulating on a good game and if i need any tips just ask. So i did...cut a long story short for thenext hour he helped go through my build and explain stuff like stacking consolest and doff powers to utilize my carrier to be a real force..His name was "Beiber" and he was part of the sad panda cubs (i believe).
So i would like to say a big THANK YOU to him and to all other players who take the time to help other fellow captains out and to show there are some really decent ppl on this game, not morons who constantly complain and abuse other players (STF).
So THANK YOU for the time and you sir are a gentleman and a scholar......thanks
Contrary to common belief the majority of PvPers really do want new players to have a good time and play well. For most STO PvP vets the fun is in the challenge. New players who grew up on the PvE this game offers really don't get a chance to learn how to really squeeze the most out of their build. Then they come onto PvP get curb stomped and storm off to start a "Nerf This Thing It is OP" thread or not PvP again. Unknown to those who strom off the PvP veterans did not get a chance to really use what they know about their builds or even do what they really want to do and that is use team tactics and strategy via VOIP.
The best thing is you saw past what you perceived to be a bad cap and hold match, went beyond your ego, and reached out.
Bieber is not a Panda Cub, (I am), Beiber is a Sad Panda who, (among others), wanted more challenge from more teams and helped to start the Panda Cubs with the notion of training new PvPers so they would in turn start new fleets, or at least PvP teams within a fleet they are already a member of.
Count yourself lucky that it was USSEnterpriseZ, (Bieber), and learn all you can from him, Havam, 4monkeys, Mancom and all the rest. Add PandaCubs to your chat options so you can team up and pew pew.
Welcome and I hope to see you in the battle space.
Oh and since the thread was archived this here guide will be a great place to start. http://denkbassin.de/sto/ Thank you again Mancom, (aka Hilbert), for that thread.
If you are a pickle in a pickle jar you know every pickle's different, sort of, but really they're all just pickles...
Extremely glad to hear the fun times being had by new guys to the PVP Scene. Look foward to seeing you guys more even if I get blown up more then you in my new and shiny Akira Escort Cruiser. :rolleyes:
You think that your beta test was bad?
Think about this: American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
Extremely glad to hear the fun times being had by new guys to the PVP Scene. Look foward to seeing you guys more even if I get blown up more then you in my new and shiny Akira Escort Cruiser. :rolleyes:
Killawpilath?
If you are a pickle in a pickle jar you know every pickle's different, sort of, but really they're all just pickles...
Hehehehe Sorry for the misspell. Still getting to know he old faces on these fraggin new forums they up and shoved down our gullets. Good to see you still kicking about.
If you are a pickle in a pickle jar you know every pickle's different, sort of, but really they're all just pickles...
Hehehehe Sorry for the misspell. Still getting to know he old faces on these fraggin new forums they up and shoved down our gullets. Good to see you still kicking about.
No worries. And darn it.. my Signature was fine.. and I had to go and try to put in my Join date.. not that I can find it.. >.< Found my Champions Online join date as being 04-29-2009 But I know I don't think I got into the STO forums that early.. Bleh.. :frown:
You think that your beta test was bad?
Think about this: American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
No worries. And darn it.. my Signature was fine.. and I had to go and try to put in my Join date.. not that I can find it.. >.< Found my Champions Online join date as being 04-29-2009 But I know I don't think I got into the STO forums that early.. Bleh.. :frown:
I could not find mine either. I did find that I was active for 866 days and used maths to guestimate my join date. Do you have any clue how bad I am with maths? Lucky I did not end up with a join date from about the time for the invention of the wheel.
If you are a pickle in a pickle jar you know every pickle's different, sort of, but really they're all just pickles...
Want to PvP? Want to like to PvP? There is one lesson you should learn... and learn fast:
In PvP, players die!
Sounds obvious? Sounds simple? Trust me, it's not! In PvE, you have fun when something dies, and you don't have fun when you die yourself. If you go into PvP with this philosophy, you will hate it!
In PvP, you will die more than you will kill. this is a fact. (unless you make your way into the top 5 players). Learning to embrace death will give you peace of mind. Know that in some matches, your impact will be negligable. Your chances of making a difference marginal. Your respawn button frequent.
Find a way to enjoy such matches too, or at least to tolerate and accept them. It will save you a lot of pain, and you won't have to buy a new keyboard after smashing your old one!
Also, remember that some players, when working together, can achieve a level of skill that is beyond comprehension. This is to be expected. Teamplay is extremely powerful in STO. It doesnt necessarily mean that they have different gear/abilities than you, just that they know all the little things and synchronize perfectly.
And remember, if everything else fails, BraceForImpact+EvasiveManeuvers+RammingSPEED!!!
So the above link is a link to my Cruiser Thread. It's probably the most comprehensive cruiser build thread on these forums, and if I may be so bold, it's the best one on the forums as well.
I wrote it, just for guys like you, guys eager to learn and just got that addiction known as pvp.
In the thread you'll find a myriad of subjects covered by myself and a host of other players. (who helped me not only through their various inputs over the course of the thread, but also by being my test subjects over the last couple of years) Things from Ability Tray Layouts, to Doffs, to Skill Specializations, to Ship Loadouts.
While I have not covered -everything- yet, chances are there is something in this thread that will appeal to you. Also, you don't have to try to search the thread all at once, there is a table of contents post, that gives you ready links to everything (it's linked towards the end of my original post)
I do need to get around to copy and pasting all of the info though, since with the PWE forum migration I can no longer edit and update my table of contents, which means eventually, there will be a ton of links that I can't put in the TOC. In the mean time however, enjoy!
And I am glad to see a new face in pvp, that wants to learn and enjoys the game
Also join the organizedpvp channel. Click the little people icon on the bottom right corner of your chat box, click chat settings, open the channels tab, and type in OrganizedPVP in the "join/create" spot then click join. You'll find people to pvp with, or get help from.
This is my first post and i thought i had better write one after my first venture into PVP.
So i run an engi odyssey and i have been getting bored of running STF's all the time so i thought lets try pvp. I played two games, one arena and the second was capture and hold.
First game i thought not bad our team lost 15-13 but i enjoyed it. My healing was the highest of both teams and i thought yup this is wot an engi should be doing. Then came capture and hold..we were decimated, didnt get 1 cap and i was being ripped to shreds. The game finished and i ususally say my customary good game in chat to everyone, but this time i didnt i went a bit further. I said good game and added that it was my first time trying it. Left the game then i got a private message..."here we go" i thought, im going to recieve some msg like learn to play the game, your a noob etc etc.
Well i was pleasently suprised by the message as it was from someone on the other side congratulating on a good game and if i need any tips just ask. So i did...cut a long story short for thenext hour he helped go through my build and explain stuff like stacking consolest and doff powers to utilize my carrier to be a real force..His name was "Beiber" and he was part of the sad panda cubs (i believe).
So i would like to say a big THANK YOU to him and to all other players who take the time to help other fellow captains out and to show there are some really decent ppl on this game, not morons who constantly complain and abuse other players (STF).
So THANK YOU for the time and you sir are a gentleman and a scholar......thanks
This is a prime example of what happens then STFers come over to PVP..and why PvP is said to be "dying" (PvP is not dying..Skill within the community is dying). First of all theres no "Skill" involved on STFs not to mention very little teamwork, so its not that hard to run a Elite in mediocre gear. Problem is people do them religiously get macked out in STF gear with STF builds and a STF mindset then come to PvP and get Schooled then get all mad. surprisingly the OP seemed to of handled it well.
And as a Engi cruiser such as the OP..hopefully u got the Operations Ody as it is hands down the best both offensively and defensively..and the only real place for an engi in this game (not much use for engis in STO atm) is to grab as much aggro as possible and to tank/heal.
Welcome to STO pvp! It's good you got something useful out of your first matches, and better that you enjoyed it. Your attitude is excellent and will get you far into the reaches of higher end pvp after some time.
if you have gotten cruiser advice from bieber, then you have gotten advice from one of, if not the best, cruiser pilot in the game.
the pandas are always around to knock builds around, and have fun killing bad guys! we host an open ventrillo to all who seek good company, and good gaming.
mav posted a link above about cruiser builds, i highly suggest that read.
but as its been stated before, the learning curve is steep, but the gameplay experience at the top is one of the best any mmo has to offer. (this is because of the awesome community mostly)
so again, welcome, i look forward to targeting you!
I like the positive story. It's so easy to let the relatively few bad experiences over shadow anything else. Thanks for sharing:). And for being open minded.
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It's terrible but easy, and these Borg are way cooler than the mess STO and Voyager left us.
May not actually be "way" cooler or even "slightly" cooler.
Love to see positive threads like this about PVP in STO.
Just wanted to add a few points:
1. There are a (very) occasionally idiots in pvp who will call you a noob, or tell you to learn to play, etc. Ignore them. They are taking it all way to seriously.
2. Have fun.
3. Bieber. You rock. It is always a pleasure to die at your hands.
CYAs in the arenas!
>>>UniqueOne-Providing you with easy PVP kills since Feb 2012<<<
yes positive posts about pvp are so rare! and i also end matches with gg win or lose. WE need alot more people getting into pvp and having a good time with it, then maybe cryptic will understand pvp IS and integral part of mmo's. Hope to see you on the battlefield!
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As an Eng healer, I have to warn you though, healing pugs when you know what you are doing can be rather frustrating. Get just one guy on your team, et voila you ll be having much more fun and helping your team.
I m glad that the savage beasts that are the pvp community, have greeted you with kindness. Have fun with the cubs, once i get back into pewpew i m looking forward to fly along with ya.
As for "gentleman and scholar" no matter how many alts you make Biebs, we all know you are a moron in clever disguise
a history of sto pvp: 2010 - 2011
a history of sto pvp: 2012 - 2013
Contrary to common belief the majority of PvPers really do want new players to have a good time and play well. For most STO PvP vets the fun is in the challenge. New players who grew up on the PvE this game offers really don't get a chance to learn how to really squeeze the most out of their build. Then they come onto PvP get curb stomped and storm off to start a "Nerf This Thing It is OP" thread or not PvP again. Unknown to those who strom off the PvP veterans did not get a chance to really use what they know about their builds or even do what they really want to do and that is use team tactics and strategy via VOIP.
The best thing is you saw past what you perceived to be a bad cap and hold match, went beyond your ego, and reached out.
Bieber is not a Panda Cub, (I am), Beiber is a Sad Panda who, (among others), wanted more challenge from more teams and helped to start the Panda Cubs with the notion of training new PvPers so they would in turn start new fleets, or at least PvP teams within a fleet they are already a member of.
Count yourself lucky that it was USSEnterpriseZ, (Bieber), and learn all you can from him, Havam, 4monkeys, Mancom and all the rest. Add PandaCubs to your chat options so you can team up and pew pew.
Welcome and I hope to see you in the battle space.
Oh and since the thread was archived this here guide will be a great place to start. http://denkbassin.de/sto/ Thank you again Mancom, (aka Hilbert), for that thread.
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
Killawpilath?
In the flesh.. so to speak.. And fixed for you.
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
Hehehehe Sorry for the misspell. Still getting to know he old faces on these fraggin new forums they up and shoved down our gullets. Good to see you still kicking about.
No worries. And darn it.. my Signature was fine.. and I had to go and try to put in my Join date.. not that I can find it.. >.< Found my Champions Online join date as being 04-29-2009 But I know I don't think I got into the STO forums that early.. Bleh.. :frown:
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
I could not find mine either. I did find that I was active for 866 days and used maths to guestimate my join date. Do you have any clue how bad I am with maths? Lucky I did not end up with a join date from about the time for the invention of the wheel.
In PvP, players die!
Sounds obvious? Sounds simple? Trust me, it's not! In PvE, you have fun when something dies, and you don't have fun when you die yourself. If you go into PvP with this philosophy, you will hate it!
In PvP, you will die more than you will kill. this is a fact. (unless you make your way into the top 5 players). Learning to embrace death will give you peace of mind. Know that in some matches, your impact will be negligable. Your chances of making a difference marginal. Your respawn button frequent.
Find a way to enjoy such matches too, or at least to tolerate and accept them. It will save you a lot of pain, and you won't have to buy a new keyboard after smashing your old one!
Also, remember that some players, when working together, can achieve a level of skill that is beyond comprehension. This is to be expected. Teamplay is extremely powerful in STO. It doesnt necessarily mean that they have different gear/abilities than you, just that they know all the little things and synchronize perfectly.
And remember, if everything else fails, BraceForImpact+EvasiveManeuvers+RammingSPEED!!!
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You Google-fu is superior to mine.
April! See I am terribad at maths.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=249906
So the above link is a link to my Cruiser Thread. It's probably the most comprehensive cruiser build thread on these forums, and if I may be so bold, it's the best one on the forums as well.
I wrote it, just for guys like you, guys eager to learn and just got that addiction known as pvp.
In the thread you'll find a myriad of subjects covered by myself and a host of other players. (who helped me not only through their various inputs over the course of the thread, but also by being my test subjects over the last couple of years) Things from Ability Tray Layouts, to Doffs, to Skill Specializations, to Ship Loadouts.
While I have not covered -everything- yet, chances are there is something in this thread that will appeal to you. Also, you don't have to try to search the thread all at once, there is a table of contents post, that gives you ready links to everything (it's linked towards the end of my original post)
I do need to get around to copy and pasting all of the info though, since with the PWE forum migration I can no longer edit and update my table of contents, which means eventually, there will be a ton of links that I can't put in the TOC. In the mean time however, enjoy!
And I am glad to see a new face in pvp, that wants to learn and enjoys the game
Also join the organizedpvp channel. Click the little people icon on the bottom right corner of your chat box, click chat settings, open the channels tab, and type in OrganizedPVP in the "join/create" spot then click join. You'll find people to pvp with, or get help from.
This is a prime example of what happens then STFers come over to PVP..and why PvP is said to be "dying" (PvP is not dying..Skill within the community is dying). First of all theres no "Skill" involved on STFs not to mention very little teamwork, so its not that hard to run a Elite in mediocre gear. Problem is people do them religiously get macked out in STF gear with STF builds and a STF mindset then come to PvP and get Schooled then get all mad. surprisingly the OP seemed to of handled it well.
And as a Engi cruiser such as the OP..hopefully u got the Operations Ody as it is hands down the best both offensively and defensively..and the only real place for an engi in this game (not much use for engis in STO atm) is to grab as much aggro as possible and to tank/heal.
always remember the You will Die rule...
... there is always the Respawn button!
"live long enough to be assimilated, resistance is futile"
Arawn - SOB
OP *is* the new balance, whether you know it or not! Gecko says so.
Season 7 - Exodus, available online. U buy nao!
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if you have gotten cruiser advice from bieber, then you have gotten advice from one of, if not the best, cruiser pilot in the game.
the pandas are always around to knock builds around, and have fun killing bad guys! we host an open ventrillo to all who seek good company, and good gaming.
mav posted a link above about cruiser builds, i highly suggest that read.
but as its been stated before, the learning curve is steep, but the gameplay experience at the top is one of the best any mmo has to offer. (this is because of the awesome community mostly)
so again, welcome, i look forward to targeting you!
have fun, kill bad guys
horizon
It's terrible but easy, and these Borg are way cooler than the mess STO and Voyager left us.
:eek: Damn... I didn't realize I had been around THAT long.. Yeesh.. I feel old...er...Darn you Kids get of mah lawn!
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
Just wanted to add a few points:
1. There are a (very) occasionally idiots in pvp who will call you a noob, or tell you to learn to play, etc. Ignore them. They are taking it all way to seriously.
2. Have fun.
3. Bieber. You rock. It is always a pleasure to die at your hands.
CYAs in the arenas!
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