Unable to Mute / Unmute players properly in OPVP (Just so you know, we can only mute people with a %20 success rate, everybody else is perma-muted because of this bug)
Unable to Mute / Unmute players properly in OPVP (Just so you know, we can only mute people with a %20 success rate, everybody else is perma-muted because of this bug)
They're all good bugs that need to be fixed, even the one that wasn't actually anything to do with PVP but has "PVP" written on it should be fixed. But you know they wont, and I know they wont. Gozer says that there's nothing important enough to warrant fixing in a system that will be ripped out anyway - which is a fantastic excuse not to fix stuff.
"Hello, hello is that a plumber? Oh thank god - the bath taps, they wont stop running! We've tried everything to stop it and right now the bathroom and everything on the 1st floor is going under! There's water everywhere! Whats that? You won't fix it because in a year's time we get a totally new bathroom? Well, how does that help me now?! My children have washed away, they're now being brought up by sea horses! Hel-glub glub glub...-"
They're all good bugs that need to be fixed, even the one that wasn't actually anything to do with PVP but has "PVP" written on it should be fixed. But you know they wont, and I know they wont. Gozer says that there's nothing important enough to warrant fixing in a system that will be ripped out anyway - which is a fantastic excuse not to fix stuff.
"Hello, hello is that a plumber? Oh thank god - the bath taps, they wont stop running! We've tried everything to stop it and right now the bathroom and everything on the 1st floor is going under! There's water everywhere! Whats that? You won't fix it because in a year's time we get a totally new bathroom? Well, how does that help me now?! My children have washed away, they're now being brought up by sea horses! Hel-glub glub glub...-"
+1 / Like /Sacrifices to the Dark Goddess of Ten Char
But maybe it will be less of a year? So you won't drown, but your kids will still be brought up by sea horses.
Mustrum "That may not be such a bad deal" Ridcully
For preventing AFKers in queues, how about a "warp out" timer that starts when you haven't pressed any button in the game for 1 minute? You'd then have to abort that warp out timer by pressing a button again.
Logoffski, however, I don't see any chance to do anything about it. You could just score it as a kill for you, because in the end, it actually has all the same effects except for the explosion.
For preventing AFKers in queues, how about a "warp out" timer that starts when you haven't pressed any button in the game for 1 minute? You'd then have to abort that warp out timer by pressing a button again.
So instead, you would have people sitting at spawn activating science team periodically.
The only way to solve this problem is either:
Return kerrat to the way it was and let the ******s farm there or,
Remove the award by participation completley. Awards based on performance only.
The second one is a hardline approach, yes but, I think, worth it.
Aytanhi, you really might want to remove that second video in the OP; it very likely falls under the forum rules concerning naming and shaming, and I'd hate to see you get banned because of it. Publicly calling out other users by name as cheaters (however completely accurate and justified you may be) could get you banned from the forums. Submit the proof via GM ticket or something, not on the forums.
So instead, you would have people sitting at spawn activating science team periodically.
The only way to solve this problem is either:
Return kerrat to the way it was and let the ******s farm there or,
Remove the award by participation completley. Awards based on performance only.
The second one is a hardline approach, yes but, I think, worth it.
I think one needs to distinguish between
Presence
Participation
Success
Presence is just being on the map. That's what AFKers do.
Participation is dealing damage, healing people, stunning people, exploding yourself and others.
Sucess means winning via effective Participation.
Presence doesn't get you anything..
Sufficent amount of Participation could get you a reasonable reward. This can be already enough "barrier" for AFKers to stop bothering. If you first have to inflict 10,000 damage or healing, you already need to be way more active than any AFKer would want to be.
Success should get you the most reward.
There could be 2 Dailies:
PvP Participation: Participate in 3 matches (deal 10,000 damage or heal 10,000 damage, or get 2 kills). 600 Dilithium
Other games have log out timers that are interrupted by entering combat, or that can't even be started while under attack. In the event of forced disconnects, it is my understanding that some even hold your character there, vulnerable for a short time. Those were features of the first and only MMO that I ever played before STO. That game didn't even have PvP.
Presumably, people who work at Cryptic have also played other games. You can borrow ideas to learn what works and what doesn't without making carbon copies.
Presence is just being on the map. That's what AFKers do.
Participation is dealing damage, healing people, stunning people, exploding yourself and others.
Sucess means winning via effective Participation.
Presence doesn't get you anything..
Sufficent amount of Participation could get you a reasonable reward. This can be already enough "barrier" for AFKers to stop bothering. If you first have to inflict 10,000 damage or healing, you already need to be way more active than any AFKer would want to be.
Success should get you the most reward.
There could be 2 Dailies:
PvP Participation: Participate in 3 matches (deal 10,000 damage or heal 10,000 damage, or get 2 kills). 600 Dilithium
PvP Success: Win in 3 matches. 1,200 Dilithium
Yes, of course. By participation, I do indeed mean presence in your, much more succinct, definition.
Problem is that presence gets the farmers the same reward as the guys that won.
Yes, of course. By participation, I do indeed mean presence in your, much more succinct, definition.
Problem is that presence gets the farmers the same reward as the guys that won.
If you can now find a different name for Success that also with P, we can coin this the 3P model.
Presence is just being on the map. That's what AFKers do.
Participation is dealing damage, healing people, stunning people, exploding yourself and others.
Sucess means winning via effective Participation.
Presence doesn't get you anything..
Sufficent amount of Participation could get you a reasonable reward. This can be already enough "barrier" for AFKers to stop bothering. If you first have to inflict 10,000 damage or healing, you already need to be way more active than any AFKer would want to be.
Success should get you the most reward.
There could be 2 Dailies:
PvP Participation: Participate in 3 matches (deal 10,000 damage or heal 10,000 damage, or get 2 kills). 600 Dilithium
PvP Success: Win in 3 matches. 1,200 Dilithium
I dont think the amount of dilithium you can get should be based on your skill, otherwise only 50% of the people who take part in ANY PVP will get the best. Right now everyone gets the same amount of dilithium regardless. As it stands ,I can make many times more dilithium doing STFs then in PVP, but the point still stands. Take away the already ****** rewards for doing PVP and the active numbers will only go down, not up.
I dont think the amount of dilithium you can get should be based on your skill, otherwise only 50% of the people who take part in ANY PVP will get the best. Right now everyone gets the same amount of dilithium regardless. As it stands ,I can make many times more dilithium doing STFs then in PVP, but the point still stands. Take away the already ****** rewards for doing PVP and the active numbers will only go down, not up.
I think it should be based on skill, but the difference may be too high with the values I gave. It could also simply be 1,440 (that's the current amount, right) for 3 Participations and an extra 400 for a single win. (All daily rewards). As long as you still need to spend a minimum amount of non AFK-able effort for either.
Well, now that the forums are "fixed", maybe these bugs and exploits could be looked at.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Aytanhi of TSI, TSI fleet founder and leader OrganizedPVP channel Admin Feel free to ask me about PVP or starship strategies. "No, I am not Borg!" /channel_join OrganizedPVP If you are interested in learning PVP, looking for a team, or a private match
You know, I find it odd that Cryptic/PWE have the time and manpower to "fix" the forums which didn't need fixing, but they don't have the time or manpower, to fix any number of the numerous glaring bugs in the game, that has existed for 2.5 years.
Allocating resources on the wrong projects, perhaps?
As this is really a PWE forum that our stuff got shifted to (rather than something lolcryptic did), based on my impression of this forum and the nightmare of "buying zen" to convert to Cpoints.
Sto and Champions are likely their two best games.
You know, I find it odd that Cryptic/PWE have the time and manpower to "fix" the forums which didn't need fixing, but they don't have the time or manpower, to fix any number of the numerous glaring bugs in the game, that has existed for 2.5 years.
Allocating resources on the wrong projects, perhaps?
Anything to "better streamline" our money to their pockets is top priority. Now get to buying some zen!
Cryptic dosent care...as long as people contiune to buy into the bull****..overhyped Cpoint ships..Ferengi lock boxes..broken Dilith system..and that gamma quad pack promo.ect ect. Cryptic has put more important stuff on the back burner. Bugs still go unchecked..real content that this game really needs (episodes, end game content, tier 6 ships, less bugs, PvP overhaul+Pvp Drops..the list goes on and on) were never going to get the stuff we really want/need bc everyone buys into the BS..account bank lol..we did just fine giving items/ec to our other toons before it. so now everyone is rushing out to get sub just to save a few clicks? almost everything there doing is a money pit now..am i the only one that is seeing this? I stopped paying monthly dues well before F2P and i refuse to spend any more in Cstore until theres some changes..i hate where this game is going, this isnt the Star Trek i once knew and if it keeps up, i will be forced to spend my time/money on a diffrent MMO.
( i can also see this new Starbase system to be yet another way for cryptic to laugh all way to the bank) and yes i know its a f2p game now and cstore is how they make most thier coin..but at some point u lose the fun of the game.
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but no seriously logoffski and afk in pvp been messing the game since day 1
Every custom chat channel has this issue apparently. Cryptic has known about it since season 4.
"Hello, hello is that a plumber? Oh thank god - the bath taps, they wont stop running! We've tried everything to stop it and right now the bathroom and everything on the 1st floor is going under! There's water everywhere! Whats that? You won't fix it because in a year's time we get a totally new bathroom? Well, how does that help me now?! My children have washed away, they're now being brought up by sea horses! Hel-glub glub glub...-"
These 'ere problems have simple solutions.
But maybe it will be less of a year? So you won't drown, but your kids will still be brought up by sea horses.
Mustrum "That may not be such a bad deal" Ridcully
Logoffski, however, I don't see any chance to do anything about it. You could just score it as a kill for you, because in the end, it actually has all the same effects except for the explosion.
So instead, you would have people sitting at spawn activating science team periodically.
The only way to solve this problem is either:
Return kerrat to the way it was and let the ******s farm there or,
Remove the award by participation completley. Awards based on performance only.
The second one is a hardline approach, yes but, I think, worth it.
There could be 2 Dailies:
Presumably, people who work at Cryptic have also played other games. You can borrow ideas to learn what works and what doesn't without making carbon copies.
Yes, of course. By participation, I do indeed mean presence in your, much more succinct, definition.
Problem is that presence gets the farmers the same reward as the guys that won.
Oh, maybe "Prevail"? Now to make a noun of it...
I dont think the amount of dilithium you can get should be based on your skill, otherwise only 50% of the people who take part in ANY PVP will get the best. Right now everyone gets the same amount of dilithium regardless. As it stands ,I can make many times more dilithium doing STFs then in PVP, but the point still stands. Take away the already ****** rewards for doing PVP and the active numbers will only go down, not up.
The Cannon Blind Spot: In Detail.
Aytanhi of TSI, TSI fleet founder and leader OrganizedPVP channel Admin
Feel free to ask me about PVP or starship strategies. "No, I am not Borg!"
/channel_join OrganizedPVP If you are interested in learning PVP, looking for a team, or a private match
CommanderDonatra@Capt.Sisko: ahhh is it supposed to do that?
Norvo Tigan@dontdrunkimshoot: hell ya, maybe
Allocating resources on the wrong projects, perhaps?
As this is really a PWE forum that our stuff got shifted to (rather than something lolcryptic did), based on my impression of this forum and the nightmare of "buying zen" to convert to Cpoints.
Sto and Champions are likely their two best games.
Anything to "better streamline" our money to their pockets is top priority. Now get to buying some zen!
take it take it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nows i is the kirksauce yes?
pwe said so fallout, they said so, and you cant take it back, they said so.
Cryptic dosent care...as long as people contiune to buy into the bull****..overhyped Cpoint ships..Ferengi lock boxes..broken Dilith system..and that gamma quad pack promo.ect ect. Cryptic has put more important stuff on the back burner. Bugs still go unchecked..real content that this game really needs (episodes, end game content, tier 6 ships, less bugs, PvP overhaul+Pvp Drops..the list goes on and on) were never going to get the stuff we really want/need bc everyone buys into the BS..account bank lol..we did just fine giving items/ec to our other toons before it. so now everyone is rushing out to get sub just to save a few clicks? almost everything there doing is a money pit now..am i the only one that is seeing this? I stopped paying monthly dues well before F2P and i refuse to spend any more in Cstore until theres some changes..i hate where this game is going, this isnt the Star Trek i once knew and if it keeps up, i will be forced to spend my time/money on a diffrent MMO.
( i can also see this new Starbase system to be yet another way for cryptic to laugh all way to the bank) and yes i know its a f2p game now and cstore is how they make most thier coin..but at some point u lose the fun of the game.