T5 console: Phaser dual cannon burst ( similar in concept to the galaxy-x's phaser lance , a 10 second burst from forward mounted phaser cannons , 2 min cooldown )
T5 console: Phaser dual cannon burst ( similar in concept to the galaxy-x's phaser lance , a 10 second burst from forward mounted phaser cannons , 2 min cooldown )
Looks good, but getting the devs on this is another story. I read that she is supposed to have an experimental technology oh her. New type of phasers and slipstream drive?
well the new phasers you're thinking of are the Mk XII phaser cannons hes has mounted under her prow , but seeing how giving a decent turn rated cruiser the ability to load out with dual heavies would be overpowered , i made it into a console
as for the slipstream , yes , in the novels the vesta was the test-bed for the slipstream drive tech voyager brought back with them , but seeing how every ship uses it at t5 now , plus the odyssey having the advanced one it would be a bit redundant giving it to the vesta
T5 console: Phaser dual cannon burst ( similar in concept to the galaxy-x's phaser lance , a 10 second burst from forward mounted phaser cannons , 2 min cooldown )
I think the Vesta is suppose to be a science vessle, or so I have read. i have not gone through most of the Post-Endgame novels because there are so many different possibilites that are not set in stone.
Here are my modifications:
Hull: 32,000
Sheilds are good at 5,100.
Weapons should be 3 and 3 like all other science ships.
I fine with the crew size at 750.
Bridge Officers: Commander Science, Lt. Commander Engineer, Lt Tactical, Lt. Science, Ensign Engineer
Device Slots: 3
Consoles are good with 3 of each.
Turn rate: 12
Implue Modifier 0.15
Inertia is fine at 35.
+15 Auxilary
A popular misconception , in all the books the vesta is listed as a multi mission explorer , not a science vessel.
The class is initially a testbed for systems brought back from the delta quadrant.
Regardless , at the time of the vesta's introduction , the premier science vessels being produced were the luna class ships
A popular misconception , in all the books the vesta is listed as a multi mission explorer , not a science vessel.
The class is initially a testbed for systems brought back from the delta quadrant.
Regardless , at the time of the vesta's introduction , the premier science vessels being produced were the luna class ships
If anything you could justify selling 3 variants of this ship like the Oddy class since the whole class was supposed to testing out new tech in the field. The original Vesta class was to test out the new slip stream drive if I recall correctly. They were about to test it when the borg came to wipe the Federation off the map.
If anything you could justify selling 3 variants of this ship like the Oddy class since the whole class was supposed to testing out new tech in the field. The original Vesta class was to test out the new slip stream drive if I recall correctly. They were about to test it when the borg came to wipe the Federation off the map.
yes thats correct , the borg invasion took place just after the vesta was brought introduced into service
and three variants of the ship could work i suppose, it could easily be handled by a single ship though
If anything you could justify selling 3 variants of this ship like the Oddy class since the whole class was supposed to testing out new tech in the field. The original Vesta class was to test out the new slip stream drive if I recall correctly. They were about to test it when the borg came to wipe the Federation off the map.
That wouldn't be bad. But instead of strictly being a cruiser like the Oddy, make the three varients Escort, Science Ship, AND Cruiser with appropriate stats to go with the varients.
well im hesitant to just make it yet another KDF ship in a federation skin , so ideally its best to keep dual heavies OFF cruisers, since thats their thing
I'm pretty sure it would fall under being a science vessel to be honest. It's kind of mute what the ship is classed as in the books, same as other ships in the series, because they wern't clasified by the way STO actually classifies ships. I think many players in STO now use the Escort/Cruiser/Science vessel trilogy and apply it to ships in the series and assume it must be right, the reality is though, that Cryptic has decided the roles or has copied the roles from what other Star Trek games have assigned 8such as the Nebula been a Science ship, the Cheyenne been a cruiser, the Sabre been an escort). The reality of the matter is it really isn't that cut-&-dry where ships from the series should be in relation to the actual game. Right now the game is swamped with cruisers, therefore it makes esnce that the Vesta should actually be a Science ship in my eyes.
I'm pretty sure it would fall under being a science vessel to be honest. It's kind of mute what the ship is classed as in the books, same as other ships in the series, because they wern't clasified by the way STO actually classifies ships. I think many players in STO now use the Escort/Cruiser/Science vessel trilogy and apply it to ships in the series and assume it must be right, the reality is though, that Cryptic has decided the roles or has copied the roles from what other Star Trek games have assigned 8such as the Nebula been a Science ship, the Cheyenne been a cruiser, the Sabre been an escort). The reality of the matter is it really isn't that cut-&-dry where ships from the series should be in relation to the actual game. Right now the game is swamped with cruisers, therefore it makes esnce that the Vesta should actually be a Science ship in my eyes.
That makes a certain ammount of sense i suppose , it just seems an odd fit for a science vessel when its meant for the same role as the galaxy , and armed with cannons to boot
I personally hope Vesta is going to be the FED's equivalent of Kar'Fi Battle Carrier. Not necessarily being a carrier, but in terms of overall stats, weapon and console slots as well as bridge layout. Honestly, even though I dislike the Kar'Fi's design, I love how the ship performs - a perfect mix of science vessel and an escort. Exactly the way I'd imagine Vesta to work.
I mean, it has a cruiser's turn-rate and size, can equip dual cannons, yet still remains science oriented due to sci boffs and consoles. A perfect fit for the Vesta concept. Just replace the hangars with something else (like sensor analysis or subsystem targeting), or even leave one hangar (as the ship in the books was supposed to have a flight deck with runabouts and stuff) and it's day one purchase for me.
Imaginary stats:
Hull Strength: 34.000
Shield Modifier: 1.1
Crew: 750
Weapons: 4 Fore, 3 Aft
Device Slots: 3
Hangar Bays: 1 (default with Runabouts)
Bridge Officer Stations: 1 Lieutenant Commander Tactical, 1 Lieutenant Science, 1 Lieutenant Engineering, 1 Commander Science, 1 Ensign Tactical
Console Modifications: 3 Tactical, 3 Engineering, 3 Science (or 4 science, should there be no fleet variant)
Base Turn Rate: 7 degrees per second
Impulse Modifier: 0.15
+5 Power to Weapons; +10 Power to Auxiliary
Subsystem Targeting / Sensor Analysis
Can Load Cannons
Advanced Quantum Slipstream Drive
Some new console/ability
From what I gather the Vesta supposedly has some kind of Chroniton Deflector.
Even though it would be impossible to implement it the way it's described to work in the books ("see" into the future) it could of course be used in a fashion similar to the Chroniton Torpedo, only in a bigger scale.
It could fire a chroniton pulse that slows down the whole enemy ship in terms of movement, cooldown timers, shield regen etc. for a few seconds.
Im very doubtful it'll be a carrier , as the ship does have a landing pad for runabouts true , but it only has enough space on board for two runabouts in that hanger..
the chroniton regulator is part of the slipstream drive system , which enables it to see whats in front of it a few seconds before it comes into contact with it , and make course adjustments accordingly
the slipstream thats in game is nowhere near as fast as its supposed to travel , and without this bit of tech there would be a very real chance it could hit planets , other ships etc etc
even though this was never mentioned in voyager :rolleyes:
More thread necro, as I've just started a science character and have read the ST: Destiny books, so am getting somewhat excited about the idea of having the Vesta-class as a science vessel. To that end, I had a think about what stats it could potentially have, and how it could be very viable, whilst remaining true to canon and not being massively overpowered.
So, my thoughts...
Hull: 31,000
Shield Modifier: 1.3
Crew: 750 (as stated in the books)
Weapons: 3x Fore, 3x Aft
Consoles: 3x Tactical, 3x Engineering, 4x Science, 3x Devices
Base Turn Rate: 10-11
Impulse Modifier: 0.15
Bridge Officers: Commander Science, Lt. Commander Science, Lt. Engineering, Lt. Tactical, Ensign Tactical
Specials: Able to equip dual cannons (but not dual heavies), +15 to Aux Power, Sensor analysis, Subsytem Targetting
Unique Console: Quantum Field Focus Controller (Science console)
What's the point of the unique console? Well, in the books it is stated that it can be used with the ship's deflector to create either a shield bubble or a a high intensity phaser beam. So, my thought was, have it come with 2 abilities on a shared cooldown - either you fire a single shot within a 45degree arc to the front (similar to the spinal lance but not as powerful - dependent on Weapons power and skill points allocation), or you instantly restore all shield facings to 100%. Either way, it has a 3min cooldown, same as any other special console.
As best as I can recall, only three ships in the Star Trek universe was giving any type of role classification indicative to what we have in STO.
ST3: USS Grissom, "Federation science vessel"
ST Generations: USS Enterprise, "Galaxy class battlecruiser"
DS9: USS Defiant, "Officially classified as an escort"
The only time the words "Galaxy Class" are used in Generations is when B'Etor is speaking to Sauron. He says to deal with them. Her response being "That is a Galaxy class starship, we are no match for them!"
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The only time the words "Galaxy Class" are used in Generations is when B'Etor is speaking to Sauron. He says to deal with them. Her response being "That is a Galaxy class starship, we are no match for them!"
It has been a while since Inwatched it. I could have sworn I heard the Galaxy refered to has a battlecruiser. I could be (and probably am) wrong.
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Looks good, but getting the devs on this is another story. I read that she is supposed to have an experimental technology oh her. New type of phasers and slipstream drive?
as for the slipstream , yes , in the novels the vesta was the test-bed for the slipstream drive tech voyager brought back with them , but seeing how every ship uses it at t5 now , plus the odyssey having the advanced one it would be a bit redundant giving it to the vesta
I think the Vesta is suppose to be a science vessle, or so I have read. i have not gone through most of the Post-Endgame novels because there are so many different possibilites that are not set in stone.
Here are my modifications:
Hull: 32,000
Sheilds are good at 5,100.
Weapons should be 3 and 3 like all other science ships.
I fine with the crew size at 750.
Bridge Officers: Commander Science, Lt. Commander Engineer, Lt Tactical, Lt. Science, Ensign Engineer
Device Slots: 3
Consoles are good with 3 of each.
Turn rate: 12
Implue Modifier 0.15
Inertia is fine at 35.
+15 Auxilary
The class is initially a testbed for systems brought back from the delta quadrant.
Regardless , at the time of the vesta's introduction , the premier science vessels being produced were the luna class ships
If anything you could justify selling 3 variants of this ship like the Oddy class since the whole class was supposed to testing out new tech in the field. The original Vesta class was to test out the new slip stream drive if I recall correctly. They were about to test it when the borg came to wipe the Federation off the map.
yes thats correct , the borg invasion took place just after the vesta was brought introduced into service
and three variants of the ship could work i suppose, it could easily be handled by a single ship though
That wouldn't be bad. But instead of strictly being a cruiser like the Oddy, make the three varients Escort, Science Ship, AND Cruiser with appropriate stats to go with the varients.
Just like the Vor'Cha and Negh'Var are, right?
Unless it also gets at least a Lt. Cmdr Tactical slot, I don't think it'd be overpowered.
That makes a certain ammount of sense i suppose , it just seems an odd fit for a science vessel when its meant for the same role as the galaxy , and armed with cannons to boot
I mean, it has a cruiser's turn-rate and size, can equip dual cannons, yet still remains science oriented due to sci boffs and consoles. A perfect fit for the Vesta concept. Just replace the hangars with something else (like sensor analysis or subsystem targeting), or even leave one hangar (as the ship in the books was supposed to have a flight deck with runabouts and stuff) and it's day one purchase for me.
Imaginary stats:
Hull Strength: 34.000
Shield Modifier: 1.1
Crew: 750
Weapons: 4 Fore, 3 Aft
Device Slots: 3
Hangar Bays: 1 (default with Runabouts)
Bridge Officer Stations: 1 Lieutenant Commander Tactical, 1 Lieutenant Science, 1 Lieutenant Engineering, 1 Commander Science, 1 Ensign Tactical
Console Modifications: 3 Tactical, 3 Engineering, 3 Science (or 4 science, should there be no fleet variant)
Base Turn Rate: 7 degrees per second
Impulse Modifier: 0.15
+5 Power to Weapons; +10 Power to Auxiliary
Subsystem Targeting / Sensor Analysis
Can Load Cannons
Advanced Quantum Slipstream Drive
Some new console/ability
I'd pay 25$ for that...
From what I gather the Vesta supposedly has some kind of Chroniton Deflector.
Even though it would be impossible to implement it the way it's described to work in the books ("see" into the future) it could of course be used in a fashion similar to the Chroniton Torpedo, only in a bigger scale.
It could fire a chroniton pulse that slows down the whole enemy ship in terms of movement, cooldown timers, shield regen etc. for a few seconds.
Im very doubtful it'll be a carrier , as the ship does have a landing pad for runabouts true , but it only has enough space on board for two runabouts in that hanger..
the chroniton regulator is part of the slipstream drive system , which enables it to see whats in front of it a few seconds before it comes into contact with it , and make course adjustments accordingly
the slipstream thats in game is nowhere near as fast as its supposed to travel , and without this bit of tech there would be a very real chance it could hit planets , other ships etc etc
even though this was never mentioned in voyager :rolleyes:
Rear Admiral , Engineering Division
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34,000 hull
1.3 shield modifier
Crew about 6-800
3 forward and aft weapons
Or 4 amd 2
Turn rate between 9-12
Commander science, with either a universal tl com or a lt com tactical, lt eng, lt science, and ensign science.
The universal will depend if there is going to be multiple variants produced.
So, my thoughts...
Hull: 31,000
Shield Modifier: 1.3
Crew: 750 (as stated in the books)
Weapons: 3x Fore, 3x Aft
Consoles: 3x Tactical, 3x Engineering, 4x Science, 3x Devices
Base Turn Rate: 10-11
Impulse Modifier: 0.15
Bridge Officers: Commander Science, Lt. Commander Science, Lt. Engineering, Lt. Tactical, Ensign Tactical
Specials: Able to equip dual cannons (but not dual heavies), +15 to Aux Power, Sensor analysis, Subsytem Targetting
Unique Console: Quantum Field Focus Controller (Science console)
What's the point of the unique console? Well, in the books it is stated that it can be used with the ship's deflector to create either a shield bubble or a a high intensity phaser beam. So, my thought was, have it come with 2 abilities on a shared cooldown - either you fire a single shot within a 45degree arc to the front (similar to the spinal lance but not as powerful - dependent on Weapons power and skill points allocation), or you instantly restore all shield facings to 100%. Either way, it has a 3min cooldown, same as any other special console.
But, that's just my thoughts...
Tim
ST3: USS Grissom, "Federation science vessel"
ST Generations: USS Enterprise, "Galaxy class battlecruiser"
DS9: USS Defiant, "Officially classified as an escort"
Ermmm, sorry but I don't recall this particular edition of the movie.:)
Where does that come from?
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It has been a while since Inwatched it. I could have sworn I heard the Galaxy refered to has a battlecruiser. I could be (and probably am) wrong.