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SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
edited June 2012 in PvP Gameplay
well i see alot of ideas for the new escourt and i wanted all the ideas in one place. now before i get flamed for mine go on tribble and see how my spec would work with it.

im thinking that epts 1 and 2 with aux to sif. why aux to sif? small heal? my transfer rate is 274% (13.7/sec)


right now my he 1 gives 8,311. thats not bumping my aux. when i use my jem i did epts 1 x2 and my aux to sif gave close to 4k in hp. the hp is very nice, dont get me wrong. but mainly the aux to sif is for the resist.

my power levels are 125/95 (wep) 55/35 (shields) 47/25 (engines) 60/45 (aux)

so if i need to get full use of my heals i could just go to my aux config hit my heals and swap to full use of wep power. im told that for that split sec that im in full aux and hit my heals and swap back to full weps i do get the full heal. as u see my transfer is awesome that it makes this possible. also i do happen to own a red matter so most times i just hit that and use a heal. also i owned 3 sdo doffs. all purple. reason my sheild power is low is because i relie on epts 1 and 2. so im always getting high sheild power. my epts1 gives me 77 sheild power and epts 2 gives 85.


i know people think epts 1 2 and ewp, but ewp needs to be speced. least this is what im told. could do eptw3. others have said this. thoes 2 options are great but if your thinking along thoes lines then epts1 rsp and epts3 would be the better option. right now going with aux to sif i am abit unsure. reason is phaser procs love to hit your damn aux and take it off line. but since i have 3 purple sdo (free in rolor on crits) im not hard up on that much of sheild heals. atm my tss gives 659/168/12%, no consoles no bump to aux. so again i feel no need for epts3. i use a wep bat and red matter so my guns are mostly hot. so i doubt a need for eptw3. we all have access to theta,(death to devs for this)so that frees up a bo power. no need to even spec it. your only looking to kill crew to make that persons tt usless. the dps they will get will be nothing compared to full crew. besides most only use it for sheild balance. i dont i like that added dps.


well this is my post and please do tell your ideas and explain why its what you would pick.


http://www.stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/index.php?build=escourt2_0
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    epts 1, epts 1, rsp 1, tac team 1, tac team 1, csv1, apb 1, apo 1, apo 1, crft 1, st 1, tss 1
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    troll post much? how are you going to epts 1 x2? lol

    think u ment epts 1 and 2 with rsp correct? also why 2 copies of tt1? my defiant uses 1 copie of tt2 with 2 tt purple doffs.

    but please explian why you would pick rsp. its not going to do much good if u get a sub nuke. also with 3 purple sdo doffs its basically an insta sheild. tts. atleast with aux to sif you do get a nice resist low heal. but its used for the resist. in a team setting your going to get an extends so you can take off the rsp. and the aux to sif is every 15 sec while your rsp has a long cd. and nice thing is if u dont need that aux to sif u can always give it to a team mate. just count how many times in a match you use rsp, then count how many times you could actually be using aux to sif. and since alot of people are still using 3 peice borg thats a boost to he and aux to sif as well.


    i do know your a very good player but when u make a post like that its kinda upsetting. everything you listed is level 1. your not even trying to contrubit good ideas to this thred. and i know this for a fact in our 1v1 i got hit with cannon rapid fire 3 and 1

    please in the future dont come to troll post. everyone in opvp is giving nice ideas and it would be awesome for them to be all in 1 place.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    BROKEN1981 wrote:
    troll post much? how are you going to epts 1 x2? lol

    why u don't check the fleet escort boff layout first :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    playhard88 wrote:
    why u don't check the fleet escort boff layout first :)

    Bridge Officer Stations: 1 Ensign Tactical, 1 Lieutenant Tactical, 1 Commander Tactical, 1 Lieutenant Commander Engineering, 1 Lieutenant Science

    1 station with 3 ranks. not 2 stations.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    BROKEN1981 wrote:
    Bridge Officer Stations: 1 Ensign Tactical, 1 Lieutenant Tactical, 1 Commander Tactical, 1 Lieutenant Commander Engineering, 1 Lieutenant Science

    1 station with 3 ranks. not 2 stations.

    If by fleet escort you mean the new Akira, then you are correct......
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    well yes thats why i put at title new fleet escourt. its basically the fleet escourt just revamped. but would be nice if people listed this own ideas of layout and reasons for it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    BROKEN1981 wrote:
    Bridge Officer Stations: 1 Ensign Tactical, 1 Lieutenant Tactical, 1 Commander Tactical, 1 Lieutenant Commander Engineering, 1 Lieutenant Science

    1 station with 3 ranks. not 2 stations.

    no, that is no the layout of the fleet escort.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    BROKEN1981 wrote:
    well yes thats why i put at title new fleet escourt. its basically the fleet escourt just revamped. but would be nice if people listed this own ideas of layout and reasons for it.

    It's similar to the Fleet Escort, but the Armitage is most definitely not a Fleet Escort. Calling it such only leads to confusion.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    BROKEN1981 wrote:
    troll post much? how are you going to epts 1 x2? lol

    think u ment epts 1 and 2 with rsp correct? also why 2 copies of tt1? my defiant uses 1 copie of tt2 with 2 tt purple doffs.

    but please explian why you would pick rsp. its not going to do much good if u get a sub nuke. also with 3 purple sdo doffs its basically an insta sheild. tts. atleast with aux to sif you do get a nice resist low heal. but its used for the resist. in a team setting your going to get an extends so you can take off the rsp. and the aux to sif is every 15 sec while your rsp has a long cd. and nice thing is if u dont need that aux to sif u can always give it to a team mate. just count how many times in a match you use rsp, then count how many times you could actually be using aux to sif. and since alot of people are still using 3 peice borg thats a boost to he and aux to sif as well.


    i do know your a very good player but when u make a post like that its kinda upsetting. everything you listed is level 1. your not even trying to contrubit good ideas to this thred. and i know this for a fact in our 1v1 i got hit with cannon rapid fire 3 and 1

    please in the future dont come to troll post. everyone in opvp is giving nice ideas and it would be awesome for them to be all in 1 place.

    If I was trolling, would the setup I just listed get scores like this?

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/MAIFrcrft2000/Star%20Trek%20Online/Aytanhi189.jpg

    I never troll someone unless they deserve it.

    Also, you were asking for a fleet escort layout, so I gave you one. My current Akira build is.... Secret. ;)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    The copy of RSP is so that there is 15 extra seconds of invulnerability so the cooldowns on my other heals will be finished. It's also great for surviving insane spike damage which simple resists just can't do sometimes.

    P.S. I meant CRF3, not CRF1

    P.P.S. Also, now I will proceed to troll this thread since you called me a troll.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaqC5FnvAEc
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Miogaruna wrote: »
    Also, you were asking for a fleet escort layout, so I gave you one. My current Akira build is.... Secret. ;)

    don't buy it, fu :mad:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    playhard88 wrote:
    don't buy it, fu :mad:

    No means yes and yes means more! :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    plus, if you have fun kill bad guys.......

    woooooooooooooooooooo
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Silly Q, but is the photon defense turret locked to ship as per tooltip?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Silly Q, but is the photon defense turret locked to ship as per tooltip?

    Yes since its A tier 5 console you cant move it around.

    And i was thinking about trying a Epts1, AUX to ID 1, Epts3 set up if i end up getting one,.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    thanks for the reply, cant pick one up till later tomorrow (Fri).

    aux2Damp to take place of an apo1? Not normally an escort cap, but thats what I would see it as, along with PH1.
    Although, having both point defense consoles on this ship would be...interesting :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    thanks for the reply, cant pick one up till later tomorrow (Fri).

    aux2Damp to take place of an apo1? Not normally an escort cap, but thats what I would see it as, along with PH1.
    Although, having both point defense consoles on this ship would be...interesting :)

    Omega is great and all but has horrid uptime... 25% vs 50%.. aux to damp also makes you immune to all sorts of annoying sci stuff... I like the aux to damp + extend 2 circle jerk idea myself... ala tsi.

    Still if I get one it will have a aux to bat on it most likely.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Husanak wrote: »
    Omega is great and all but has horrid uptime... 25% vs 50%.. aux to damp also makes you immune to all sorts of annoying sci stuff... I like the aux to damp + extend 2 circle jerk idea myself... ala tsi.

    Still if I get one it will have a aux to bat on it most likely.

    thats what ik did with mine :P
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Husanak wrote: »
    Omega is great and all but has horrid uptime... 25% vs 50%.. aux to damp also makes you immune to all sorts of annoying sci stuff... I like the aux to damp + extend 2 circle jerk idea myself... ala tsi.

    Still if I get one it will have a aux to bat on it most likely.

    Aux to Bat? are you trolling again? :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    maicake716 wrote:
    thats what ik did with mine :P

    I've been telling people for awhile now that they should be working aux to bat into there builds... and I get called a trollz. :) hehe

    Sometimes people don't want to hear good sense ya know. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Husanak wrote: »
    I've been telling people for awhile now that they should be working aux to bat into there builds... and I get called a trollz. :) hehe

    Sometimes people don't want to hear good sense ya know. :)

    It's really no joke. I slapped something Aux to Batty on my Galaxy-R and it's been pretty fun. A little more thought and it could be pretty tough. The hardest part for me has been timing my EPtX with everything else to maximize the cool down reduction.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Miogaruna wrote: »
    If I was trolling, would the setup I just listed get scores like this?

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/MAIFrcrft2000/Star%20Trek%20Online/Aytanhi189.jpg

    I never troll someone unless they deserve it.

    Also, you were asking for a fleet escort layout, so I gave you one. My current Akira build is.... Secret. ;)

    very sorry about that. i thought i was clear when u said new fleet escourt. this ship is mostly a fleet escourt. as far as build we will all know what engineer powers your using when you show up in pvp.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    thanks for the reply, cant pick one up till later tomorrow (Fri).

    aux2Damp to take place of an apo1? Not normally an escort cap, but thats what I would see it as, along with PH1.
    Although, having both point defense consoles on this ship would be...interesting :)

    well you do lose the second copy of omega. aux2damp will be good at breaking tractors while leaving omega for offensive use. i was going to use ph but well, i think aux2damp is much better. with out bumping my aux my aux to sif is a but over 4k in hp with a nice resist. but since im used to omega i think aux2damp will suit me better.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    SteveHale wrote: »
    It's really no joke. I slapped something Aux to Batty on my Galaxy-R and it's been pretty fun. A little more thought and it could be pretty tough. The hardest part for me has been timing my EPtX with everything else to maximize the cool down reduction.

    Is that why you were dropping EWP so often?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    BROKEN1981 wrote:
    well you do lose the second copy of omega. aux2damp will be good at breaking tractors while leaving omega for offensive use. i was going to use ph but well, i think aux2damp is much better. with out bumping my aux my aux to sif is a but over 4k in hp with a nice resist. but since im used to omega i think aux2damp will suit me better.

    except...aux2damp doesnt stop tractor beams...just repulsors
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    SteveHale wrote: »
    It's really no joke. I slapped something Aux to Batty on my Galaxy-R and it's been pretty fun. A little more thought and it could be pretty tough. The hardest part for me has been timing my EPtX with everything else to maximize the cool down reduction.

    What should not be omitted is that you're using it with DOFFs. If you don't use those, the power is as useless as if it ever was.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    shelev wrote:
    Is that why you were dropping EWP so often?

    Exactly.
    What should not be omitted is that you're using it with DOFFs. If you don't use those, the power is as useless as if it ever was.

    The "...to maximize the cool down reduction" line may have been too vague. You are correct, 3 Very Rare Technicians.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    akira seems pretty TRIBBLE imho. it can have omega, but seemingly one copy only maximum. all carriers, always *****. my 2 cents
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    EmoeJoe wrote:
    akira seems pretty TRIBBLE imho. it can have omega, but seemingly one copy only maximum. all carriers, always *****. my 2 cents

    That can be worked around w/PH or Tech Doffs as others have mentioned. Also, Tac Capt ability helps as well. After a learning curve I think you'll see people become very effective w/these ships which have built in debuffs from pets and high DPS capabilities from Comm Tac and decent to very good tanking/or more CC from EWP or more DPS from DEM2.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    What should not be omitted is that you're using it with DOFFs. If you don't use those, the power is as useless as if it ever was.

    Same could be said for a few other skills that have been dofferized.... yes doffs make aux to bat much better they are far and away the best doffs for a skill in the system for sure.

    Still one EPTS one Aux to BAt + 3 doffs = Perfect skill roll.

    With 3 aux to bat doffs.... if you where one of the lazy people running 2 copies of EPTS ... you now get the same effect + the aux to bat doff procs.
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