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Almost the nail in the coffin for me guys.

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
edited June 2012 in PvP Gameplay
Think I might hang my phasers up soon.

The saying "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a new out come is bordering on insanity" is starting to describe me.
The amount of trust I had in cryptic saying to the effect "promise we'll get round to pvp soon" and not seeing anything materialise is a running joke now. Just look at Mav's forum signature of broken promises.

Hopes were high for me when Cryptic stated that fleet bases will have pvp elements to it. Now "later". Sound familiar? Mav get ready to add to the list of broken promises.

I really do feel that pvp will be dropped from STO. Cryptic are just leading us on to try and milk the last bit out of us.

The systems team don't know what they are doing. Sci resists - what a TRIBBLE up. Made the sci toon about as useful as a chocolate fireguard. Unbeatable scenario on tribble - what a joke it is. I bet they were thinking, "but the numbers on my screen say no one can do it."

Gozer can add all the pvp content he wants, but if the systems team carry on TRIBBLE things up, what's the point? Gozer, good luck to ya buddy. Feels like you'll be truly against it.

Is there a big rift between the various teams at Cryptic? I dunno. Sure feels like it.

Cryptic, why do you think pvp is failing and then saying no one really plays that part of the game? Thought of the answer yet? Let me tell you. You spent hardly no resources on it since STO was released.

Almost come to same drastic conclusion as someone else did recently. The systems team needs putting it politely, sacking! Then we might have a chance. Systems guys, have you ever pvp'ed to see the "fruits" (more like lack of) of your labour?

For the rest of you guys, enjoy the table top Orion dancers at Drozana. That's about as much pvp action you'll get in the foreseeable future.

Even Jupiter Force has stopped airing STOked. Sign of things to come for STO?

Question is do I wanna carry on my STO subscription? I really don't want to stop it but way things are going,
Soon gonna terminate my monthly subscription. Way to go Cryptic.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    my playtime has been cut drasticly by outside forces.....(work)

    but i am probably on the same track naz. and its a shame.

    i love trek. but this game just isnt where it should, or needs to be.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Go away, and come back that's what I do.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Work and life forced me away for the last two months or so; and I've found that the longer I stay away, the less I want to log back in.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    OtakuboyT wrote: »
    Go away, and come back that's what I do.

    Back to a further crippled pvp system? No thanks. PVP probably won't be there when I leave and come back.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    but Pvp is the way it is BECAUSE of listening to the various whines and complaints of our so esteemed holier than though PvP scene ..i am frankly ecstatic gozer has decided to take Pvp by the reigns and be hands on instead of flipping through the pvp sections various rants and whines and just nerfing something BECAUSE....and many players have agendas , they want the game to evolve around their build and what power THEY feeel they should only need and if a power turns up that makes them regret/rethink their build idea instead of respeccing into a better system they hop on here and cry until a system is nerfed into uselessness....just look at sci capatins...a derect result of PvP escort players...PEFECT example feedback pulse. YA you had to spec into it and basically cripple the rest of your powers just for it to be effective and because escort pilots couldnt 3 second pop you without dieing they cried on here to have it nerfed....as a matter of fact...if ANY ability effectiviliy counters the dreaded alpha strike from tactical escort players it is sure to be nerfed into uselessness....lets compare danube and siphon nerfs....siphons are still extremely op .. and renders them unable to move OR fight back as they are sitting on 0 power all across the board....and when danubes only hinder their movement NOT their ability to fight back you see hordes of klingons on here crying...when in actuallity the fighters/craft from the fed carrier are about half as effective as the fighters on the klink side



    So ppl what i am getting at is i have great THANKs for gozer taking PvP by the reigns as it is dying due to PvP'er own agendas and mass rants to further break a broken system in favor of their favorite ships

    I think i have said enough i hope everyone takes this at face value and dont bother trolling me becasue this will be my only post here and have a nice day :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    To the poster above me

    /faceroller
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Unsub most of us did.... um the game is F2P and there is zero reason to give them money. If you have multiple toons which I am sure you have if you really decide you must have some cstore junk... play 2-4 toons each night for a couple nights and let some new F2P kid pay for your shiny stuffz. :)

    I will say that I HATE Cryptic they are one of the worst game developers in the industry... I still like some of the underlying game elements and the people the game has attracted. Giving them Zero of my funds really does take an edge of the hate while I'm playing at least. lol
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    but Pvp is the way it is BECAUSE of listening to the various whines and complaints of our so esteemed holier than though PvP scene ..i am frankly ecstatic gozer has decided to take Pvp by the reigns and be hands on instead of flipping through the pvp sections various rants and whines and just nerfing something BECAUSE....and many players have agendas , they want the game to evolve around their build and what power THEY feeel they should only need and if a power turns up that makes them regret/rethink their build idea instead of respeccing into a better system they hop on here and cry until a system is nerfed into uselessness....just look at sci capatins...a derect result of PvP escort players...PEFECT example feedback pulse. YA you had to spec into it and basically cripple the rest of your powers just for it to be effective and because escort pilots couldnt 3 second pop you without dieing they cried on here to have it nerfed....as a matter of fact...if ANY ability effectiviliy counters the dreaded alpha strike from tactical escort players it is sure to be nerfed into uselessness....lets compare danube and siphon nerfs....siphons are still extremely op .. and renders them unable to move OR fight back as they are sitting on 0 power all across the board....and when danubes only hinder their movement NOT their ability to fight back you see hordes of klingons on here crying...when in actuallity the fighters/craft from the fed carrier are about half as effective as the fighters on the klink side



    So ppl what i am getting at is i have great THANKs for gozer taking PvP by the reigns as it is dying due to PvP'er own agendas and mass rants to further break a broken system in favor of their favorite ships

    I think i have said enough i hope everyone takes this at face value and dont bother trolling me becasue this will be my only post here and have a nice day :)

    You must not have been here long.

    The dev promise allot of things about pvp..

    pvp hasn’t change or been added to in 2 year...

    Let me rephrase that they did add a map which was available in beta but cut before launch.

    Power balance like old snb and VM + the HUGE NERF to sci capt but as a whole pvp is untouched same maps , same kerrat.

    To the op , you'll be back I was gone for 6 months playing Tor and other MMO's but all it took was one night back in sto and I got hooked again.

    It s a shame the devs do not relies the potential STO has in pvp instead they decided to ignore the one thing that makes people return, hoping the devs have done something. There is no other game I have seen with the commitment of this pvp community to make something out of nothing and try so hard to get something done for pvp.

    At the beginning everyone had high hopes, now we feel like cryptic spit on the ip they have license. Its never the devs fault remember they can only do what the suits tell them and Atari was hemorrhaging money, so I doubt that helped. All we can do is hope PW puts the funds where it matters.

    Last thing is if you think sto is broke, I say L2P STO. You must not be a vet. STO is so random it’s like a box of chocolates, forest said it best " you never know what you’re gonna get." Adapt no one build is un killable, there is always kryptonite to your superman.

    I’ve seen thread like p2w QQ lol, my first night back, I got hit with all these new console abilities. Did it really matter much no, lol past pvp experience kick in and it felt like the old VM /SNB days all over again. This keeps you on are toes this is what make 3 hr pvp zombie cruiser premades end with a winner it is the randomness of STO. Sto is balance like this there is no op build but there sure are allot of really strong ones/ unique builds. WHICH allot were taken away with the sci nerf I see. This led to a huge staleness in sto and I wish they fix this one thing because sci as a option is just sad now.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    See fallout23 signature. That's all I can say.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    naz1911 wrote: »
    Think I might hang my phasers up soon.

    The saying "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a new out come is bordering on insanity" is starting to describe me.
    The amount of trust I had in cryptic saying to the effect "promise we'll get round to pvp soon" and not seeing anything materialise is a running joke now. Just look at Mav's forum signature of broken promises.

    Hopes were high for me when Cryptic stated that fleet bases will have pvp elements to it. Now "later". Sound familiar? Mav get ready to add to the list of broken promises.

    I really do feel that pvp will be dropped from STO. Cryptic are just leading us on to try and milk the last bit out of us.

    The systems team don't know what they are doing. Sci resists - what a TRIBBLE up. Made the sci toon about as useful as a chocolate fireguard. Unbeatable scenario on tribble - what a joke it is. I bet they were thinking, "but the numbers on my screen say no one can do it."

    Gozer can add all the pvp content he wants, but if the systems team carry on TRIBBLE things up, what's the point? Gozer, good luck to ya buddy. Feels like you'll be truly against it.

    Is there a big rift between the various teams at Cryptic? I dunno. Sure feels like it.

    Cryptic, why do you think pvp is failing and then saying no one really plays that part of the game? Thought of the answer yet? Let me tell you. You spent hardly no resources on it since STO was released.

    Almost come to same drastic conclusion as someone else did recently. The systems team needs putting it politely, sacking! Then we might have a chance. Systems guys, have you ever pvp'ed to see the "fruits" (more like lack of) of your labour?

    For the rest of you guys, enjoy the table top Orion dancers at Drozana. That's about as much pvp action you'll get in the foreseeable future.

    Even Jupiter Force has stopped airing STOked. Sign of things to come for STO?

    Question is do I wanna carry on my STO subscription? I really don't want to stop it but way things are going,
    Soon gonna terminate my monthly subscription. Way to go Cryptic.

    Jeez my god wow. Why so depressed man. I was thinking about buying a LTS for 199$ or like 165 euro for me. I will stick with this game no matter what.

    Sorry but constnatly putting all this negative stuff on the pvp forums wont really help matters.
    If ur so pessimistic u might try and leave the game right now.

    Im not saying that i wouldnt want pvp in this game to improve, because i think we all want that. But again the so maniest post about the exact same subject, cryptic knows it by now. and this post wont make a 0.000001% difference to that.


    Sorry, im still having fun in this game. Not much, and its mostly short lived. but its still there. Thats also because there is still hope left. but by all means, continue this negativity. If i had 0% fun in this game i would probably bail out again right now.

    I think u need some more milk buddy.

    Cheers.

    M*T
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    PVP in WoW is a joke. If Blizzard keeps spoiling the porridge every patch what makes you think a company of Cryptic's standing will ever get it or anything else right?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Jeez my god wow. Why so depressed man. I was thinking about buying a LTS for 199$ or like 165 euro for me. I will stick with this game no matter what.

    Sorry but constnatly putting all this negative stuff on the pvp forums wont really help matters.
    If ur so pessimistic u might try and leave the game right now.

    Im not saying that i wouldnt want pvp in this game to improve, because i think we all want that. But again the so maniest post about the exact same subject, cryptic knows it by now. and this post wont make a 0.000001% difference to that.


    Sorry, im still having fun in this game. Not much, and its mostly short lived. but its still there. Thats also because there is still hope left. but by all means, continue this negativity. If i had 0% fun in this game i would probably bail out again right now.

    I think u need some more milk buddy.

    Cheers.

    M*T

    Its was after a few days of playing, realizing that almost all other powers in this game are nerfed to hell so not being able to kill in a plethora of ways got me. I love my sci sci's above all else. Apart from the shock wave and a major buffed grav well with mk xii purple consoles, its pretty much useless.

    Its more a frustration towards Cryptic not realizing the gem they have and polishing it so to speak. They are more content with the passer by F2P Drozana table top dancer than keeping a long term monthly subscribing STO player in game.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    but Pvp is the way it is BECAUSE of listening to the various whines and complaints of our so esteemed holier than though PvP scene ..i am frankly ecstatic gozer has decided to take Pvp by the reigns and be hands on instead of flipping through the pvp sections various rants and whines and just nerfing something BECAUSE....and many players have agendas , they want the game to evolve around their build and what power THEY feeel they should only need and if a power turns up that makes them regret/rethink their build idea instead of respeccing into a better system they hop on here and cry until a system is nerfed into uselessness....just look at sci capatins...a derect result of PvP escort players...PEFECT example feedback pulse. YA you had to spec into it and basically cripple the rest of your powers just for it to be effective and because escort pilots couldnt 3 second pop you without dieing they cried on here to have it nerfed....as a matter of fact...if ANY ability effectiviliy counters the dreaded alpha strike from tactical escort players it is sure to be nerfed into uselessness....lets compare danube and siphon nerfs....siphons are still extremely op .. and renders them unable to move OR fight back as they are sitting on 0 power all across the board....and when danubes only hinder their movement NOT their ability to fight back you see hordes of klingons on here crying...when in actuallity the fighters/craft from the fed carrier are about half as effective as the fighters on the klink side



    So ppl what i am getting at is i have great THANKs for gozer taking PvP by the reigns as it is dying due to PvP'er own agendas and mass rants to further break a broken system in favor of their favorite ships

    I think i have said enough i hope everyone takes this at face value and dont bother trolling me becasue this will be my only post here and have a nice day :)


    Dude, come back when you know something about the game and been here since beta. Jog along!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    1. Leave
    2. Come back
    3. Lol
    4. Repeat
    5. ??????
    6. More lols
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Miogaruna wrote: »
    1. Leave
    2. Come back
    3. Lol
    4. Repeat
    5. ??????
    6. More lols

    At stage 5 now buddy.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Bah, you silly person Naz. Don't leave right when we have a giant block of exciting starbase content coming along; our fleet needs to quit this lame pvp stuff that we've been dabbling in and focus on our core mission of PvE content and RP. Just think of the possibilities opened up by having a starbase; we'll name it HaxStar 1 and get all our Orion toons to dance together!

    Aytanhi has the right of it I think; there are laughs to be had and something worthwhile about this game and community, so you'll be back if you do take a break (I hope, would miss you Naz!). I think Deus Ex + Skyrim will be enough to keep me entertained until some of Gozer's planned pvp fixes have gotten implemented. The sad reality is that until starbases are up and running, with the first round of tweaks sorted out, that is going to be the priority for the systems team; PvP balance is going to have to wait; you aren't happy about it, and neither am I, considering that my sci/sci was my first PvP toon as you'll recall. That is the reality though. Go kill some dragons, repeat step 1, then come back. kkthxchnk.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    but Pvp is the way it is BECAUSE of listening to the various whines and complaints of our so esteemed holier than though PvP scene ..i am frankly ecstatic gozer has decided to take Pvp by the reigns and be hands on instead of flipping through the pvp sections various rants and whines and just nerfing something BECAUSE....and many players have agendas , they want the game to evolve around their build and what power THEY feeel they should only need and if a power turns up that makes them regret/rethink their build idea instead of respeccing into a better system they hop on here and cry until a system is nerfed into uselessness....just look at sci capatins...a derect result of PvP escort players...PEFECT example feedback pulse. YA you had to spec into it and basically cripple the rest of your powers just for it to be effective and because escort pilots couldnt 3 second pop you without dieing they cried on here to have it nerfed....as a matter of fact...if ANY ability effectiviliy counters the dreaded alpha strike from tactical escort players it is sure to be nerfed into uselessness....lets compare danube and siphon nerfs....siphons are still extremely op .. and renders them unable to move OR fight back as they are sitting on 0 power all across the board....and when danubes only hinder their movement NOT their ability to fight back you see hordes of klingons on here crying...when in actuallity the fighters/craft from the fed carrier are about half as effective as the fighters on the klink side



    So ppl what i am getting at is i have great THANKs for gozer taking PvP by the reigns as it is dying due to PvP'er own agendas and mass rants to further break a broken system in favor of their favorite ships

    I think i have said enough i hope everyone takes this at face value and dont bother trolling me becasue this will be my only post here and have a nice day :)

    Two words: Phaser Proc. As long as Fed fighters are spamming those, they'll always be OP. I've lost count of the ammount of deaths I've had with hardened, well fortified shields just because the RNG decided my time was up. It's uncommon to even have all subsystems online against that kind of phaser spam. If you can tell us that's not OP and give a good reason for it, then I'll be very impressed.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Two words: Phaser Proc. As long as Fed fighters are spamming those, they'll always be OP. I've lost count of the ammount of deaths I've had with hardened, well fortified shields just because the RNG decided my time was up. It's uncommon to even have all subsystems online against that kind of phaser spam. If you can tell us that's not OP and give a good reason for it, then I'll be very impressed.

    Let’s not turn this into a spam discussion, when we all know klinks are the king of spam (pot calling kettle black imo). Anyway, I have had many bouts of wanting to quit. Problem is that there is no other star trek ip game. I also stay because of the people who play.


    I also stay because I have invested so much into this game with time and real money (LTS, just bought the collector’s edition, countless c-points). I think or hope that Cryptic is realizing that PvPers do spend real money. Problem is they lack enough items and content that appeal to a PvPer. I hope it’s not too late and Gozer throw’s that hail Mary.


    Naz, I know you like SCI (I hate it with a passion). I also have nightmares of what SCI use to be like. If they had SNB in the real world vets wouldn’t need to castrate animals anymore :p I think too much cc can kill a match too. They do need a happy medium.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    just today - i managed to get into 3 (THREE) PVP matches Fed.vs.Kdf in 4(FOUR) hours!!!!!!!

    1 - ok balance.. could be better
    2 - maps? - ok , there could be WAY more maps
    3 - sets? - yes, more fancy stuff for PVP only would be nice
    4 - rewards? - NONE!!!!!
    i don't need 1k dillithium! why dont you give us ranks, tables, statistics, tournaments!!!???
    why should people waste their time with PVP when after the match - everything is forgotten?

    PVP = NO FUN cause nobody is playing it ( i mean on the FED side)
    in the last 4 hours it was like
    queue:
    fed:
    0-2

    kdf:
    5-8

    and waiting..
    if they rip PVP out, this game will not longer interest me, not even with added Romulans..

    Cause what shall i do with a D'deridex without PVP?
    Show off my green *** in ESD? Defeat the Borg for 1024th time?


    Gozer - PLS, INSTALL BLOODLINE CHAMPIONS , which is a PVP only game and has EVERYTHING a PVP fan would want.

    Play it for a couple of hours, take a look at characters History, at Tournaments, 3v3 to 5v5, premade or single.. statistics for every bloodline.. and transform what you see there in a functioning system back here.

    And PLS, INFORM us what you are doing and THAT you are working on it, PLSPLSPLS, we are giving up hope...

    In STO, PVP could be even more fun, cause space combat IS fun and 3D, and it's TREK, and we love our ships, and and and...


    To the OP - ya know, that there is no PVP in the S6 starbases doesn't really surprise much,
    because the new PVP S6 matches have to work with the new system Gozer is workin' on right now (for 6 weeks? )

    So be patient, give it a last chance, my predictions are:
    optimistic: August 2012
    pesimistic: November-December 2012
    realistic: September 2012
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    OtakuboyT wrote: »
    Go away, and come back that's what I do.

    This is good advice!
    Uber1250 wrote: »
    Work and life forced me away for the last two months or so; and I've found that the longer I stay away, the less I want to log back in.

    Yeah, after i left for a month, I felt the claws of addiction releasing me... Then, after a few months, I logged in just to see, and I really had fun! And that's the story of how I was hooked again...
    Sorry but constnatly putting all this negative stuff on the pvp forums wont really help matters.

    Yeah, one of the biggest problems with STO pvp is player negativity. True, Cryptic has done it's best to make players disillusioned, but it is still possible to have fun in STO. I've stopped caring about what cryptic has promised us in the past, or will promise in the future, and this allows me to enjoy what sto is now. (Like griefing carrier pilots. :) )
    Crimsonoa wrote: »
    Anyway, I have had many bouts of wanting to quit. Problem is that there is no other star trek ip game.

    ^^ QFT

    Wnen Cryptic bought the right to Star Trek, they got me in the bargain....
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    but Pvp is the way it is BECAUSE of listening to the various whines and complaints of our so esteemed holier than though PvP scene ..i am frankly ecstatic gozer has decided to take Pvp by the reigns and be hands on instead of flipping through the pvp sections various rants and whines and just nerfing something BECAUSE....and many players have agendas , they want the game to evolve around their build and what power THEY feeel they should only need and if a power turns up that makes them regret/rethink their build idea instead of respeccing into a better system they hop on here and cry until a system is nerfed into uselessness....just look at sci capatins...a derect result of PvP escort players...PEFECT example feedback pulse. YA you had to spec into it and basically cripple the rest of your powers just for it to be effective and because escort pilots couldnt 3 second pop you without dieing they cried on here to have it nerfed....as a matter of fact...if ANY ability effectiviliy counters the dreaded alpha strike from tactical escort players it is sure to be nerfed into uselessness....lets compare danube and siphon nerfs....siphons are still extremely op .. and renders them unable to move OR fight back as they are sitting on 0 power all across the board....and when danubes only hinder their movement NOT their ability to fight back you see hordes of klingons on here crying...when in actuallity the fighters/craft from the fed carrier are about half as effective as the fighters on the klink side



    So ppl what i am getting at is i have great THANKs for gozer taking PvP by the reigns as it is dying due to PvP'er own agendas and mass rants to further break a broken system in favor of their favorite ships

    I think i have said enough i hope everyone takes this at face value and dont bother trolling me becasue this will be my only post here and have a nice day :)

    HAHAHAHAHAHA

    and what of your and others PvE agenda's? Is a broken system the only way you can compete with the AI or against other players? What?, your egoes can't handle competition?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    We need a GW2 guild for STO PvP refugees. "Charr Trek Online" has a ring to it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Naz will we be seeing you in GW2?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Mavairo wrote:
    Naz will we be seeing you in GW2?

    When's it due and how good is it pvp wise?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Naldoran wrote:
    Bah, you silly person Naz. Don't leave right when we have a giant block of exciting starbase content coming along; our fleet needs to quit this lame pvp stuff that we've been dabbling in and focus on our core mission of PvE content and RP. Just think of the possibilities opened up by having a starbase; we'll name it HaxStar 1 and get all our Orion toons to dance together!

    Aytanhi has the right of it I think; there are laughs to be had and something worthwhile about this game and community, so you'll be back if you do take a break (I hope, would miss you Naz!). I think Deus Ex + Skyrim will be enough to keep me entertained until some of Gozer's planned pvp fixes have gotten implemented. The sad reality is that until starbases are up and running, with the first round of tweaks sorted out, that is going to be the priority for the systems team; PvP balance is going to have to wait; you aren't happy about it, and neither am I, considering that my sci/sci was my first PvP toon as you'll recall. That is the reality though. Go kill some dragons, repeat step 1, then come back. kkthxchnk.

    hahahah kkthxchnk

    At least someone know how to stay optimistic!!!! Starbase hax ftw im definately gonna exploit this 4 the pandazzz!!!

    Go to ur stupid GW2, im sure naz will return soon enough when he gets bored of it. just another gimmick


    Naz. I know u like sci, remember even before i got you into Pandas we met and you were always 1v1'ing me with ur Sci. Remember how powerful it was? I agree with Crimson. Sci is nerfed too much now. But it should never go back to pre season 4 without some good adjustment.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    naz1911 wrote: »
    When's it due and how good is it pvp wise?

    Date still uncertain, but likely by September.

    Many videos of structured PvP (arenas) and WvWvW (3-faction inter-server PvP) are available; try here for some starting points: http://www.youtube.com/user/TeamParadigmNet
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    hahahah kkthxchnk

    At least someone know how to stay optimistic!!!! Starbase hax ftw im definately gonna exploit this 4 the pandazzz!!!

    Go to ur stupid GW2, im sure naz will return soon enough when he gets bored of it. just another gimmick


    Naz. I know u like sci, remember even before i got you into Pandas we met and you were always 1v1'ing me with ur Sci. Remember how powerful it was? I agree with Crimson. Sci is nerfed too much now. But it should never go back to pre season 4 without some good adjustment.

    Let's hope there is something to return to. There's nothing more I'd love than to see this game come back to its golden age with the current entourage that is the so called systems team, it makes me cringe.

    Will pop in on vent every so often to get a feel for it. Apart from that, when's GW2 due again?.....lol
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012

    Wnen Cryptic bought the right to Star Trek, they got me in the bargain....

    lol. They got me with thier jargon..................
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I have not played STO since Saturday. Usually, when I get home from work, I like to sign in and play at least an hour before fixing dinner and spending the evening with my wife.

    Now, over the last three days, I’ve gotten home, logged in, realized there wasn’t anything for me to do that is remotely interesting, not even plink around in kerrat. So I log off almost as fast as I logged in. Then I load up some other game.

    I think Star Trek is nearly done for me! Sure, Star-bases sound cool… but my experience with Cryptic thus far inclines me to believe that they won’t be what the hype indicates. Furthermore, right off the get-go Gozers grand idea to basically remove FVK PVP is nothing less than epic fail! Especially if it transitions into the warzones.

    Yeah, I’ve had about as much as I can stomach.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    naz1911 wrote: »
    Let's hope there is something to return to. There's nothing more I'd love than to see this game come back to its golden age with the current entourage that is the so called systems team, it makes me cringe.

    Will pop in on vent every so often to get a feel for it. Apart from that, when's GW2 due again?.....lol

    I think there's a bit too much "hate" on the systems team. The DOFF system comes from them as well, after all, and it's popular and well-made.

    I think 90% of the state of PvP is based on neglect. Not because the Devs hate us or dislike PvP, but because PvP was on low priority since forever basically. It's a policy thing, not a talent thing.

    What may be an issue with Cryptic is there love to create systems and not really "finish" them and polish them to the best end. The DOFF system may be an example where they actually did that. Crafting, PvP, Fleet Actions are all examples of where they didn't.

    As a software developer myself I know that creating a new system is more fun then polishing and fine-tuning. The first is very creative work, but the rest is often tedious. But it may not even be that - it could be mostly another policy thing - basically it's about deciding to have a large laundry list of features rather than a small list of high quality features.

    That was definitely something that guided STO at launch. Didn't one of the head-honchos back then say something like: "If it isn't included at launch, potential players will have their opinions formed and never notice when it's added later". I believe the same guy may have later realized that having something in at launch but at low quality also defines people's opinions. But was that learned quickly enough? [/Speculate]
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