Just out curiousness and fun to talk about I was wondering does anyone know what is the really differences of the transwarp drives shown in the star trek franchise and which one is the fastest overall?
transwarp drive types:
Borg conduits
Borg normal transwarp
Voth
Shuttle craft Cochrane
Quantuam Slipstream drive
If have already looked on memory Alpha website and it does not have the information I'm looking for. And yes I know the technology does not exist.
By the shows logic. All the Faster than normal warp drive engines are pretty much the same speeds. Minus the visual differences. Think of Transwarp as warp 11-20. The only one that does things very differently is the warp 10 Cochran shuttle. Thanks to the stupid evolving TRIBBLE, and everywhere at once, in Threshold. The only one arguably is the fastest, is slipstream. That got voyager home in a few minutes. VS the coil they got, only got them 10 years closer. Only Transwarp hubs had that speed.
By the shows logic. All the Faster than normal warp drive engines are pretty much the same speeds. Minus the visual differences. Think of Transwarp as warp 11-20. The only one that does things very differently is the warp 10 Cochran shuttle. Thanks to the stupid evolving TRIBBLE, and everywhere at once, in Threshold. The only one arguably is the fastest, is slipstream. That got voyager home in a few minutes. VS the coil they got, only got them 10 years closer. Only Transwarp hubs had that speed.
My understanding was warp speeds in TOS was n^3 where n was the given speed. The transwarp changed that to be n^5.
I believe the first figure came out of the book Making of Star Trek but I don't have a copy handy to verify. That sounds right as I got the book in high school and well we had a lot of trekkies way back when.
Borg Transwarp is much like a worm hole being opened inside a warp bubble, at least that's what I believe. Think of their conduits like a bubble ring that you blow bubbles with.
And LT Tom Paris's warp 10.0 flight was being everywhere in the universe all at the same time.
Quantum Slipstream Drive is just like the Borg way of doing things except you produce the conditions with your warp core.
According to the episode "Endgames", Voyager traveled about 25,000 light years in a matter of minutes, similar to traveling through the Bajoran wormhole.
Borg normal transwarp
This seems to work more like normal warp only much faster. We're not really shown what its upper limit to speed is, but Voyager used one in "Dark Frontier" to travel nearly 20,000 light years in at most a few days.
Voth
I don't think we have any hard information on how fast the Voth transwarp is.
Quantuam Slipstream drive
In "Hope and Fear", Quantum Slipstream Drive is shown to allow Voyager to travel 300 light years in between one and two hours. The improved QSD in "Timeless" allowed them to travel nearly 10,000 light years in what seems to be several hours (Kim and Chakotay had packed lunch on the Delta Flyer for the flight, implying that they expected to miss meal time, but the lack of a relief crew for them implies that it wasn't expected to be more than a day).
What we can draw from this is that only the Borg Conduit method (or the Cochrane "Warp Ten") allows a ship to cross the galaxy in a single day or less, but the other methods can allow it in weeks at most. Given that Warp 8 is 512c (TOS scale) or 1024c (TNG scale), the various transwarp methods seem to allow speeds on a scale of one million c--i.e. as much faster than conventional warp travel as warp is faster than light.
Just out curiousness and fun to talk about I was wondering does anyone know what is the really differences of the transwarp drives shown in the star trek franchise and which one is the fastest overall?
transwarp drive types:
Borg conduits
Artificially created transwarp conduits. Theese are maintaned by structures that create pre-determined paths and intersections, allowing for entry at a hub, and exit in normal space.
They are not created by ships, but rather by a hub, and does not require the ship using them to have a transwarp drive of its own.
Borg normal transwarp
This is a transwarp conduit created by a ship. Transwarp (including the above conduit) is means of transportation through subspace, where the ship travels through using normal drive, but in a layer of subspace. It is generated by the ship using it.
Voth
[COLOR="rgb(255, 140, 0)"]This seems to be transwarp through normal space, unlike Borg transwarp. No true details have been given, but it seems that the Voth have found a way to travel at subspace speeds through normal space. Unlike the transwarp hub, it does not have a predetermined exit aperature.[/COLOR]
Shuttle craft Cochrane
Infinite speed. Warp 10. The ship is everywhere at once, and is not reccomendable, as it accelerates human evolution by a factor of X.
Has only been used once to our knowlege.
Quantuam Slipstream drive
Quantum slipstream is not unlike the Borg transwarp. It uses artificially generated conduits through another layer of space.
UNLIKE the Borg transwarp it goes through the quantum barrier rather than subspace, and seems to be slower than Borg transwarp (3 months from the Gamma quadrant, compared to a few days in Borg transwarp).
If have already looked on memory Alpha website and it does not have the information I'm looking for. And yes I know the technology does not exist.
Hope this helps.
I've included details of transwarp in the first segment of my mission "Transwarp Trouble". All info on the subjects are gathered from startrek.com and memory alpha, so it should be as close to canon as it gets.
The overall "fastest" is clearly the Warp 10 drive. But since that is useless, the best and fastest is probably the hub/conduit variant, with 30K lightyears in just a few mins.
Cool, now the ball is rolling. Forgot to mention the Advanced Warp Drive invented by the "Demon" copy's of the crew. Also since it is transwarp is faster the normal FTL no one calls it FTW = faster then warp. Its not a joke i'm being serious here. But anyway to my knowledge the Advanced Warp drive almost brought them in the alpha quadrant before they had to do a u-turn.
Cool, now the ball is rolling. Forgot to mention the Advanced Warp Drive invented by the "Demon" copy's of the crew. Also since it is transwarp is faster the normal FTL no one calls it FTW = faster then warp. Its not a joke i'm being serious here. But anyway to my knowledge the Advanced Warp drive almost brought them in the alpha quadrant before they had to do a u-turn.
I think the only thing mentioned was "back in the alpha quadrant within a few months", wich would put it alongside the slipstream.
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My understanding was warp speeds in TOS was n^3 where n was the given speed. The transwarp changed that to be n^5.
I believe the first figure came out of the book Making of Star Trek but I don't have a copy handy to verify. That sounds right as I got the book in high school and well we had a lot of trekkies way back when.
And LT Tom Paris's warp 10.0 flight was being everywhere in the universe all at the same time.
Quantum Slipstream Drive is just like the Borg way of doing things except you produce the conditions with your warp core.
This seems to work more like normal warp only much faster. We're not really shown what its upper limit to speed is, but Voyager used one in "Dark Frontier" to travel nearly 20,000 light years in at most a few days.
I don't think we have any hard information on how fast the Voth transwarp is.
In "Hope and Fear", Quantum Slipstream Drive is shown to allow Voyager to travel 300 light years in between one and two hours. The improved QSD in "Timeless" allowed them to travel nearly 10,000 light years in what seems to be several hours (Kim and Chakotay had packed lunch on the Delta Flyer for the flight, implying that they expected to miss meal time, but the lack of a relief crew for them implies that it wasn't expected to be more than a day).
What we can draw from this is that only the Borg Conduit method (or the Cochrane "Warp Ten") allows a ship to cross the galaxy in a single day or less, but the other methods can allow it in weeks at most. Given that Warp 8 is 512c (TOS scale) or 1024c (TNG scale), the various transwarp methods seem to allow speeds on a scale of one million c--i.e. as much faster than conventional warp travel as warp is faster than light.
Hope this helps.
I've included details of transwarp in the first segment of my mission "Transwarp Trouble". All info on the subjects are gathered from startrek.com and memory alpha, so it should be as close to canon as it gets.
The overall "fastest" is clearly the Warp 10 drive. But since that is useless, the best and fastest is probably the hub/conduit variant, with 30K lightyears in just a few mins.
I think the only thing mentioned was "back in the alpha quadrant within a few months", wich would put it alongside the slipstream.