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Why Massively Plays STO

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edited April 2012 in Galactic News Network [PC]
In another edition of Massively's "Why I Play" column, Star Trek Online is spotlighted once again.


Link to the coulmn.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Nice read. I agree with pretty much all of that.

    STO isn't perfect, but it's certainly fun to play. And space combat is awesome.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Is it just me or does it seem like every single one of massivelys "articles" about STO just seem like a fancy drawn out advert for the game... They never EVER seem to bring out any of the negative issues around STO to the public eye which is rather odd considering they were all over the EVE "monoclegate" stuff.....
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Is it just me or does it seem like every single one of massivelys "articles" about STO just seem like a fancy drawn out advert for the game... They never EVER seem to bring out any of the negative issues around STO to the public eye which is rather odd considering they were all over the EVE "monoclegate" stuff.....


    I agree. So Cryptic, how much are you paying them to advertise STO for you? This game is a waste of money as well as time. I've never seen an MMO where one could level so fast, until STO F2P. The game should really be called , Star Trek Online: The Next Lock Box.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Is it just me or does it seem like every single one of massivelys "articles" about STO just seem like a fancy drawn out advert for the game... They never EVER seem to bring out any of the negative issues around STO to the public eye which is rather odd considering they were all over the EVE "monoclegate" stuff.....

    That's probably why it's titled "Why I Play: Star Trek Online by Justin Olivetti "
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Primus01 wrote: »
    I agree. So Cryptic, how much are you paying them to advertise STO for you? This game is a waste of money as well as time. I've never seen an MMO where one could level so fast, until STO F2P. The game should really be called , Star Trek Online: The Next Lock Box.

    Feel free to, you know, not play if you don't like it. And if you don't like the lock-boxes, discard them and don't buy keys. It's not like they're forcing you to buy them.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Really? There is so much do to do in Cryptic content besides kill, kill, kill? The author doesn't mention foundry. I too will cry foul at this. What is going on at massively when they are this "objective?" Does this person play STO?

    There are some good and objective writers for STO's coverage, like Terry.

    But, this specific article is like pure PR with no consciousness of what the game experience is actually like. Something is corrupt here. Or is it kudos to some game for nonsense reasons? Can anyone read this with a straight face?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Pretty much I've come to give massively no credence when it comes to the game, same goes for STOKED, all they are is cheer fests and rolling advertisements. Objectivity is out the window with them, which is fine, but don't expect me to put any weight in anything they say.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Kyuui wrote: »
    Pretty much I've come to give massively no credence when it comes to the game, same goes for STOKED, all they are is cheer fests and rolling advertisements. Objectivity is out the window with them, which is fine, but don't expect me to put any weight in anything they say.

    My thoughts exactly
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Plus it's so disjointed that it's like someone is relating to "talking points." He or she has clearly not rolled a toon under F2P.

    It's like wishful thinking alone, sustaining one person who overlooks everything else.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    I would suggest changing the title to "Why STO pays Massively."
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Feel free to, you know, not play if you don't like it. And if you don't like the lock-boxes, discard them and don't buy keys. It's not like they're forcing you to buy them.

    I have stop playing. After 2 years of epic failure and lack of content I have had enough of Cryptic.
    Kirkfat wrote: »
    I would suggest changing the title to "Why STO pays Massively."

    I agree.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Uh, considering the article is supposed to highlight the positive aspects of STO (it says so in the title), I'm not surprised they didn't bring up any of the serious complaints that are all over this place.

    If you want to hear people raging about the negative aspects of the game, just keep browsing these forums. Why throw the hate all over the Internet when we can keep it contained here?

    I, for one, plan to focus on the stuff I like rather than the stuff I don't like.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    I, for one, plan to focus on the stuff I like rather than the stuff I don't like.

    Same here, I play games in order to have fun. If there were't many aspects of STO that I enjoyed I wouldn't be logging into it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Feel free to, you know, not play if you don't like it. And if you don't like the lock-boxes, discard them and don't buy keys. It's not like they're forcing you to buy them.

    So you're saying that you get some sort of twisted enjoyment from lock-box spam flashing across your screen that has absolutely nothing to do with what you're doing at the time? Especially when it's in German?

    Let's not be ridiculous. They ruined a good game with F2P. Now a captain barely has time to appreciate the lower tier of ships before they're already able to upgrade to the next, and have to get a whole new tier of weapons, armour, shields and starship equipment. Maybe I couldn't afford to pay the monthly fee every month, but the months I could, I really enjoyed myself. Now with F2P, even the subscription players have to pay cash to get the good stuff.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Why throw the hate all over the Internet when we can keep it contained here?

    There's hate, and then there's righteous consumer dissatisfaction. You need to learn the difference. If people don't express their dissatisfaction on these forums, then how is Cryptic to know that they're risking losing customers. Sure, they ignore 90% of what we express dissatisfaction with, but they can't excuse their inaction by claiming they didn't know people were ****ed off.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Primus01 wrote: »
    Kirkfat wrote: »
    I would suggest changing the title to "Why STO pays Massively."

    I agree.

    I agree as well.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    It goes beyond Massively, there seems to be plenty of compromised sources out there these days. Can't even get an honest review from the "big boys" anymore.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Yes, I know ... the so called "gaming journalist" never really had much credibility but when it was a niche hobby they at least had some attempt of being impartial.

    Then come the PS2 and suddenly gaming was "mainstream" but also come the net, old gaming magazines started to get hurt because those magazines were monthly and news in the net were instant, they could not really compete with the news sites and hen it started, publishers realized because there were so many sites and the magazines were in such a precarious situation they could make those magazines and sites a extension of their PR ... the only thing that could stop them was ...

    Integrity.

    And that is the big problem, even in conventional media that is short demand these days, gaming journalists for most part never had them because how many of those even had a degree in journalism? from what I could tell most of them are just English Majors, a ethics class is not something they likely ever attended.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    I think Cryptic went F2P in the hopes that everyone who complained that "they paid into the game and had a right to get exactly what they (individual player) wanted out of the game" would go away. Now that you DON'T have to pay.... You get no Say.



    Make Cardassians Playable already!!!!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    I think Cryptic went F2P in the hopes that everyone who complained that "they paid into the game and had a right to get exactly what they (individual player) wanted out of the game" would go away. Now that you DON'T have to pay.... You get no Say.



    Make Cardassians Playable already!!!!

    You don't have to pay. You do not get to make such requests.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    There is such a lack of respect I feel for journalists the more I watch or read what they have to say. On top of that I do not think there are any journalists that would be able to jump onto the game (never seen any of these guys anywhere in the game before either) and be able to do an elite stf.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    I think Cryptic went F2P in the hopes that everyone who complained that they paid into the game and had a right to get exactly what they wanted out of the game would go away.

    I paid into the game at launch plus some time after, and am still waiting to get what cryptic claimed the game was going to be.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Elsaud wrote:
    So you're saying that you get some sort of twisted enjoyment from lock-box spam flashing across your screen that has absolutely nothing to do with what you're doing at the time? Especially when it's in German?

    Who said anything about "enjoyment"? I just ignore the spam and keep doing whatever it is I was doing. It's not like they come up every two minutes. Every twenty minutes, maybe.

    And this isn't a "with us or against us" situation. It's a "with us, against us, or indifferent" situation.
    Elsaud wrote:
    Let's not be ridiculous. They ruined a good game with F2P. Now a captain barely has time to appreciate the lower tier of ships before they're already able to upgrade to the next, and have to get a whole new tier of weapons, armour, shields and starship equipment. Maybe I couldn't afford to pay the monthly fee every month, but the months I could, I really enjoyed myself. Now with F2P, even the subscription players have to pay cash to get the good stuff.

    Matter of opinion. Personally, I like most of the F2P changes (most, but not all. And you can get everything for free through the Dilithium Exchange)
    Elsaud wrote:
    There's hate, and then there's righteous consumer dissatisfaction. You need to learn the difference. If people don't express their dissatisfaction on these forums, then how is Cryptic to know that they're risking losing customers. Sure, they ignore 90% of what we express dissatisfaction with, but they can't excuse their inaction by claiming they didn't know people were ****ed off.

    Frankly, I'm seeing a lot more hate than righteous customer dissatisfaction. If you (people in general, not you personally) don't like something, provide constructive criticism. Not the hate that's all over this place.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    "It was absolutely imperative that we drive into unsafe areas of Detroit to locate one of the very few Del Tacos'

    There was never a Del Taco in Detroit. Not during the promotion, and not now. Trust me, I know. During the promotion, there were only three Del Tacos in the metro area. All very safe places. Stopped reading the article there. Ridiculous dramatization. :rolleyes:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Is it just me or does it seem like every single one of massivelys "articles" about STO just seem like a fancy drawn out advert for the game... They never EVER seem to bring out any of the negative issues around STO to the public eye which is rather odd considering they were all over the EVE "monoclegate" stuff.....
    Why I play: I have a softness for Cryptic

    Phew, this might be a landmine, but I'm going to forge ahead anyway. I kind of like Cryptic Studios. There, I said it. Pelt me with stones and half-empty cans of Mountain Dew if you must, but for all of its many failings, this studio has a certain charm and style that I totally dig. I love the emphasis on character creation in all of its games, I like that its products have always been kind to the casual and newcomer, and I admire how the team keeps taking hits (many deserved) but comes on back anyway.

    Star Trek Online is a Cryptic title through and through, for all the good and bad stigma that it carries as a result. It's colorful, it's slightly cartoony, it trips over itself to try to do the right thing, and it keeps experimenting with different ideas until the good ones bubble to the surface. It's been a rocky two years, but looking back at where it was at launch, I can definitely say that the game Star Trek Online is now is so much better than it was back then, and this is thanks to a lot of dedication of a few hardworking folks.

    Why I advertise for Crpytic...

    Well at least your admitted your are a biased and a Crpytic wh...ugh...street corner professional.

    And this is where I stop bothering reading anymore fanboyism.
    Kirkfat wrote: »
    I would suggest changing the title to "Why STO pays Massively."

    ^ Agreed
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Grox wrote: »
    "It was absolutely imperative that we drive into unsafe areas of Detroit to locate one of the very few Del Tacos'

    There was never a Del Taco in Detroit. Not during the promotion, and not now. Trust me, I know. During the promotion, there were only three Del Tacos in the metro area. All very safe places. Stopped reading the article there. Ridiculous dramatization. :rolleyes:

    As someone who joined the collective chorus, "Del Taco? Never heard of them.", you seem to have missed the point. The observation is that Del Taco was an obscure chain of restaurants with whom to pair with for the promotion. Most people really were SoL if you were passionate about Star Trek and wanted that pet.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Wow...that was sugary-sweet.

    Objectivity right out the airlock on that one.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Who said anything about "enjoyment"? I just ignore the spam and keep doing whatever it is I was doing. It's not like they come up every two minutes. Every twenty minutes, maybe.

    And this isn't a "with us or against us" situation. It's a "with us, against us, or indifferent" situation.



    Matter of opinion. Personally, I like most of the F2P changes (most, but not all. And you can get everything for free through the Dilithium Exchange)



    Frankly, I'm seeing a lot more hate than righteous customer dissatisfaction. If you (people in general, not you personally) don't like something, provide constructive criticism. Not the hate that's all over this place.

    Constructive feedback such as "Hey, I'll gladly pay for everything found in the Ferengi Boxes if put on the C-Store"? I think that qualifies as feedback and not hate.

    Do the Devs *have* to do that? No. But it's feedback. Feedback that has been met only with silence.

    It's odd how quickly constructive feedback *can* turn to hate when only one side is willing to engage in discussion.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    As someone who joined the collective chorus, "Del Taco? Never heard of them.", you seem to have missed the point. The observation is that Del Taco was an obscure chain of restaurants with whom to pair with for the promotion. Most people really were SoL if you were passionate about Star Trek and wanted that pet.

    Did I miss the point? I understand the Del Taco promo wasn't accessible to all people. I'm sure it was frustrating to them. Who knows, maybe that was the best promo partnership cryptic could do. Better than no promo right?

    I felt the need to point out that the writer was exaggerating his story to garner more sympathy for his frustration and enthusiasm.;)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Who said anything about "enjoyment"? I just ignore the spam and keep doing whatever it is I was doing. It's not like they come up every two minutes. Every twenty minutes, maybe.

    And this isn't a "with us or against us" situation. It's a "with us, against us, or indifferent" situation.



    Matter of opinion. Personally, I like most of the F2P changes (most, but not all. And you can get everything for free through the Dilithium Exchange)



    Frankly, I'm seeing a lot more hate than righteous customer dissatisfaction. If you (people in general, not you personally) don't like something, provide constructive criticism. Not the hate that's all over this place.

    This all sounds to me like the actions of a paid employee of the company trying to placate the righteously indignant attitude of the customers. So how much do they pay you?
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