Well, now I'm even further disappointed in Cryptic. We finally get onboard mail, bank, and exchange access...and its on a lockbox ship that I don't stand a chance of getting.
Hey, can we get a DevBlog that details when we're going to get our Star Trek game back? Lockbox Cashgrab Online isn't that interesting, and not what I signed up (and paid) for.
Its actually funny how well this could have gone over had this simply been a normally purchased ship.
I would keep playing if the Cardassian and now Ferengi ship were purchased through normal means. Hell, I'd be saving up my Dilithium to purchase the C-Points to get them. However, between the constant, unending stream of cash grab boxes and the lack of anything to do at max level, I've decided to quit STO. I stuck with this game far longer than I would have if it hadn't been a Star Trek game, but I feel like Cryptic doesn't give a s**t about us at all.
I wanted to make a rage post, but I'm tired. What is going on really? This year you only launched a ship ( the odisey and the Botasqu) for each faction, but 3 ships that can be used by any faction, can cost us about 10 times more, and are somehow unbalanced. Really is this the way we are going from now? If yes, :eek:
Like I said in my other post...Enjoy the pending phone call from my states Attorney General. Have fun explaining how your product allows minors access to a form of online gambling.
It is really sad that Cryptic can't fathom a way to introduce ships like this in any way other than lockbox stupidity.
CBS won't release ths ships for outright inclusion, so the C-Store is out, as is any other means of actually purchasing the ship outright.
Here's an idea! Have a member's lottery held once per day for the length of the promotion time. Each day, one paid subscription memeber would be chosen. That name is then removed from the contest. Make the ship a "reobtainable, untradeable, single character at-a-time" item.
Well, I guess the devs thought that their paid subscription members would feel that it would be unfair to the rest of the players.
And btw, I have no subscription and refuse to purchase one, precisely because of such blatant Ferengi management...
Like I said in my other post...Enjoy the pending phone call from my states Attorney General. Have fun explaining how your product allows minors access to a form of online gambling.
LOL, Never thought of it that way! Uh Oh Cryptic...
On another note, I enjoyed watching the Cardy cruisers get blown up in PVP, I am even more excited to watch these do the same. Nothing a well put team can't take care of. I for one am not going to spend a single dollar on those keys.
Like I said in my other post...Enjoy the pending phone call from my states Attorney General. Have fun explaining how your product allows minors access to a form of online gambling.
FYI, it is only gambling(in the legal definition) if you have a way to convert your winnings back into RL currency. Like in a casino, how you turn in the chips for cash, or with online gambling sites how they transfer the money to your account. STO does not offer players any way to transfer their winnings back into RL currency.
if your going to keep introducing more and more op ships and consoles, could you at least buff all the original ships a bit? you know raise the baseline? we would complain less
FYI, it is only gambling(in the legal definition) if you have a way to convert your winnings back into RL currency. Like in a casino, how you turn in the chips for cash, or with online gambling sites how they transfer the money to your account. STO does not offer players any way to transfer their winnings back into RL currency.
Gambling, with any other name, is still gambling.
You spend RL cash, on the -chance- to win something. That, in essence is gambling. Plain and simple.
I'm even more disappointed after having a look at the Lobi store. Sure, maybe if you were guaranteed to get 20 or so crystals from a lockbox, those prices would be sane. I opened one box, just on a whim (and to do something with my stipend from last month), and got...TWO CRYSTALS (and nothing else). Yeah, some sane drop rates right there :mad:
Here's a simple way to stop the Cash grab boxes just have everyone stop subscribing and if enough people dont come back then they wont do it anymore. but as long as you keep subscribing or playing its a win for CRYPTIC.
*sigh* this really does make me sad. When I read the dev blog at first I thought yay! This will be a nice ship for my ferengi char, and I'll go level him for this. When I realised it was another lockbox item...
Well looks like i wont be jumping back into STO anytime soon.
Even if they made it so that if you bought one of these 3 lockbox ships in the c-store you couldnt get the other 2 ever thus ensuring rarity then I could cope.
I really want them to release the ambassador this way just to see all the rage that would follow.
FYI, it is only gambling(in the legal definition) if you have a way to convert your winnings back into RL currency. Like in a casino, how you turn in the chips for cash, or with online gambling sites how they transfer the money to your account. STO does not offer players any way to transfer their winnings back into RL currency.
Doesn't look like you've read the ESRB Teen rating definition, which clearly states "simulated gambling" is illegal for that rating. That doesn't mean it converts to or from real world currency, it simply states any form of simulated gambling.
That means Dabo, Lockboxes, etc.. all violate the game's Teen ESRB rating. Combine that with the fact that people feel they are being extorted out of their money with the current system, and you know why they are filing ESRB complaints, and calling Attorney General offices. Cryptic/PW crossed a final line here, and it will hurt them for having done so.
You spend RL cash, on the -chance- to win something. That, in essence is gambling. Plain and simple.
The dictionary definition of something is not necessarily the same as the legal definition. As I said, something is not gambling, by the legal definition, unless you have a way to convert your winnings into RL currency. I'm not defending Cryptic, simply informing you of something you are obviously not aware of. And it is for this very reason that there is no legal action that can be taken against Cryptic.
Doesn't look like you've read the ESRB Teen rating definition, which clearly states "simulated gambling" is illegal for that rating. That doesn't mean it converts to or from real world currency, it simply states any form of simulated gambling.
That means Dabo, Lockboxes, etc.. all violate the game's Teen ESRB rating. Combine that with the fact that people feel they are being extorted out of their money with the current system, and you know why they are filing ESRB complaints, and calling Attorney General offices. Cryptic/PW crossed a final line here, and it will hurt them for having done so.
The ESRB is a self regulatory agency with no legal power. Video game companyies have no obligation to submit their games to the ESRB for rating. It is true that some game stores will not sell games without an ESRB rating, however STO is no longer being actively sold in stores aside from left over copies, so Cryptic and PW could completely abandon the ESRB rating on STO if they wanted.
FYI, it is only gambling(in the legal definition) if you have a way to convert your winnings back into RL currency. Like in a casino, how you turn in the chips for cash, or with online gambling sites how they transfer the money to your account. STO does not offer players any way to transfer their winnings back into RL currency.
Individuals under the age of 18 (and 21 in some localities) are allowed to use real money to obtain a CHANCE at winning something. Its gambling; I've already done this once with Sony, I'll do it again with Cryptic.
Individuals under the age of 18 (and 21 in some localities) are allowed to use real money to obtain a CHANCE at winning something. Its gambling; I've already done this once with Sony, I'll do it again with Cryptic.
First of all, dont worry; I'm not telling you what you can do. You can report anything you like to whoever you like, but that doesnt actually mean anything will happen. That said, there is no "chance" at winning here: you actually get *something* in every box. It may not be what you wanted, but you still get something. And as previously stated, you have no way to convert your winnings into RL currency. So again, report all you like, but you arent going to see anything happen.
Individuals under the age of 18 (and 21 in some localities) are allowed to use real money to obtain a CHANCE at winning something. Its gambling; I've already done this once with Sony, I'll do it again with Cryptic.
Then by your definition claw machines are illegal yet I see them in tons of restaurants and arcades. Kids can play those.
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And why can't we get this on our existing ships?
Simple:
If people want onboard access to Exchange, Bank and Mail, they need to pay extra cash. Transparent cash grab, if there ever was one.
I would keep playing if the Cardassian and now Ferengi ship were purchased through normal means. Hell, I'd be saving up my Dilithium to purchase the C-Points to get them. However, between the constant, unending stream of cash grab boxes and the lack of anything to do at max level, I've decided to quit STO. I stuck with this game far longer than I would have if it hadn't been a Star Trek game, but I feel like Cryptic doesn't give a s**t about us at all.
Not gonna try for it, but would make for a great fleet / party ship thanks to the dabo table and access to exchange, mail, etc.
CBS won't release ths ships for outright inclusion, so the C-Store is out, as is any other means of actually purchasing the ship outright.
Here's an idea! Have a member's lottery held once per day for the length of the promotion time. Each day, one paid subscription memeber would be chosen. That name is then removed from the contest. Make the ship a "reobtainable, untradeable, single character at-a-time" item.
Well, I guess the devs thought that their paid subscription members would feel that it would be unfair to the rest of the players.
And btw, I have no subscription and refuse to purchase one, precisely because of such blatant Ferengi management...
LOL, Never thought of it that way! Uh Oh Cryptic...
On another note, I enjoyed watching the Cardy cruisers get blown up in PVP, I am even more excited to watch these do the same. Nothing a well put team can't take care of. I for one am not going to spend a single dollar on those keys.
FYI, it is only gambling(in the legal definition) if you have a way to convert your winnings back into RL currency. Like in a casino, how you turn in the chips for cash, or with online gambling sites how they transfer the money to your account. STO does not offer players any way to transfer their winnings back into RL currency.
Gambling, with any other name, is still gambling.
You spend RL cash, on the -chance- to win something. That, in essence is gambling. Plain and simple.
CBS wants them really rare, Cryptic wants money. Thus lockboxes are born.
Well looks like i wont be jumping back into STO anytime soon.
Even if they made it so that if you bought one of these 3 lockbox ships in the c-store you couldnt get the other 2 ever thus ensuring rarity then I could cope.
I really want them to release the ambassador this way just to see all the rage that would follow.
Doesn't look like you've read the ESRB Teen rating definition, which clearly states "simulated gambling" is illegal for that rating. That doesn't mean it converts to or from real world currency, it simply states any form of simulated gambling.
That means Dabo, Lockboxes, etc.. all violate the game's Teen ESRB rating. Combine that with the fact that people feel they are being extorted out of their money with the current system, and you know why they are filing ESRB complaints, and calling Attorney General offices. Cryptic/PW crossed a final line here, and it will hurt them for having done so.
The dictionary definition of something is not necessarily the same as the legal definition. As I said, something is not gambling, by the legal definition, unless you have a way to convert your winnings into RL currency. I'm not defending Cryptic, simply informing you of something you are obviously not aware of. And it is for this very reason that there is no legal action that can be taken against Cryptic.
The ESRB is a self regulatory agency with no legal power. Video game companyies have no obligation to submit their games to the ESRB for rating. It is true that some game stores will not sell games without an ESRB rating, however STO is no longer being actively sold in stores aside from left over copies, so Cryptic and PW could completely abandon the ESRB rating on STO if they wanted.
Individuals under the age of 18 (and 21 in some localities) are allowed to use real money to obtain a CHANCE at winning something. Its gambling; I've already done this once with Sony, I'll do it again with Cryptic.
First of all, dont worry; I'm not telling you what you can do. You can report anything you like to whoever you like, but that doesnt actually mean anything will happen. That said, there is no "chance" at winning here: you actually get *something* in every box. It may not be what you wanted, but you still get something. And as previously stated, you have no way to convert your winnings into RL currency. So again, report all you like, but you arent going to see anything happen.
Then by your definition claw machines are illegal yet I see them in tons of restaurants and arcades. Kids can play those.